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Nickelback said:
Should be a great game Scott. . . both teams have very balanced offenses. . . edge to Michigan in the running game, clear advantage to USC with their passing attack, but I do feel Michigan's secondary is just a little better than USC's.

Im sorry Nickelback, but what does Michigan's running game vs SCs running game or Michigans secondary vs SCs secondary have to do with anything?

SC D Line vs Michigan O Line - SC will win the battle.
SC Secondary vs Michigan passing game - SC will bend but not break.
SC O Line vs Michigan D Line - will be a good matchup, but SC has too many different running styles to contend with. Michigan wont be able to stop them all.
Michigan Secondary vs SC passing game - wont be a contest. The closest thing to a good passing game Michigan faces was Oregon & we all know how that turned out.

This game is the 2002 Orange Bowl except it's 2003 & the Rose Bowl.
 
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I think we saw the most overrated team in the nation last night. 35-7, Enough said!
 
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USC has one of the best DL's in the nation. I think they are the best DL in the nation. Perry will not be stopped but should be controlled IMO.

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What the hell are you talking about. :lol: Only ND plays tougher schedules year in and year out than USC. USC wanted to schedule Miami this year, they said NO, USC wanted Miami next year they said NO, USC scheduled series with OU and is going to play V-Tech in the BCA classic. USC wants to play anybody anywhere dude. T

Fluidoz
To answer your question, USC is not in the NC because computers and SOS is keeping them out. HUMAN POLLS have USC "clearly" #1 and USC will get a split NC if they beat MICHIGAN. NOT USC fault the teams they played tanked. HOW LUCKY was LSU that WSU starting QB got hurt for last game of year against UW and UW faced a FROSH QB and scored a last min. TD to beat WSU. Not USC fault that all 4 OOC opponents tanked. 3/4 OOC opponents were bowl teams last year and AU was pre-season #1. Do your research.

Where was USC when LSU put out a flyer for ANYONE to come fill in the spot when they got cancelled on. The answer was NOWHERE
 

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Where was USC when LSU put out a flyer for ANYONE to come fill in the spot when they got cancelled on. The answer was NOWHERE


Actually, the answer is that the schedule was filled. Remember Auburn? While USC was playing pre-season #1 by some publications LSU was playing a div. II patsy.
 

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Actually, the answer is that the schedule was filled. Remember Auburn? While USC was playing pre-season #1 by some publications LSU was playing a div. II patsy.

Atleast if you are going to comment, get your facts straight. W. Illinois was then ranked #1 in 1-AA & there are some damn good 1-AA programs out there who have stepped up & beating 1-A teams over the years.

Anyone with half a brain knew Auburn being ranked that high was a joke & how good does that win look now. LSU played more ranked teams then Oklahoma & USC & only have one loss against the top 20.

Next.....
 

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Great argument. I'm stumped! Congrats on beating a div II team. #1 AA = div. 1 patsy. This is a all-time classic trying to pump up W. Illinois. Did you take the 50 points?
 

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Why should I not be surprised by your response. You come across as the typical football fan with no true knowledge of the sport. No, I did not place any wagers on this particular game but I did quite well playing 1-AA/Div II/Div III football this year. The masses don't hear about them but there are alot of solid programs that are capable of stepping up to the next level. Boise State was a 1-AA program not that long ago & look how they have done.

For all the crap that was talked about LSU, their SOS came out ahead which is no surprise & they beat more ranked teams then Oklahoma & USC. LSU should be #1.
 

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Of course you wouldn't. I actually do not have a problem with LSU. My problem really lies with OU getting blown out last night and being rewarded with a trip to the Sugar. I know SC lost to Cal in triple OT. Wish everyone would quit acting like they got blown out. It's not like they lost on there home turf. East coast teams should really come out West sometime and show the nation just how pathetic the football on the west coast is. What have they got to lose?
 

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I agree with you on Oklahoma. I don't believe they belong in the Sugar Bowl. Other teams have gotten penalized bigtime for losing this late in the season & Oklahoma deserved to have the same thing happen to them. Oklahoma got all this hype & what have they really done, beat up on a bunch of Texas schools. Hell one of the worst SEC teams most would say gave them their second toughest game of the season after Kansas State.
 

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I know ;)


USC not playing in the Sugar Bowl is a miscarriage of justice in my opinion & I've been one of USC's critics this year. I consider myself to be fair though. If that was USC in a conference title game, I am totally sure they would have been punished. I wouldn't be surprised if people wanted USC vs Michigan & voted that way.

I don't trust any poll or system to determine things when it is best decided on the field. This weekend what was I doing besides wagering on 1-A football, I was wagering on 1-AA, Div II, & Div III PLAYOFF football. I don't want to hear that they can't make a playoff system work as it is bullshit.

LSU vs USC: The true national title game that will never be.


Really what makes this worse for USC is in the past you heard so many times about how the timing of your loss is important. When teams like Kansas State, & Texas lost in the Big 12 title game or Tennessee when they lost in the SEC Tite game, you always heard that the timing of the loss did them in, well why not the same for Oklahoma? Of all the teams, USC lost the earliest so their loss should have been the least hurtful. This just shows the inconsistency of the system & why it will never work.

Oh & to Trev Alberts, shut up. While I agree with you that the BCS should be scrapped & the creators should just fess up that it doesn't work, going back to the way things used to be didn't work either hence why we have the BCS. You say we should go forward, & play it out on the field yet you make no mention of a playoff system. Why am I not surprised you ignored that you ****ing moron.
 

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Trev Alberts a moron? Say it ain't so! Maybe my memory is failing but it seems that in years past when a #1 team got dismantled in the way that OU did that they would drop more then 2 spots. The media and coaches had a opportunity to make this right and acted as ignorant as a bunch of computer geeks.
 

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Do your reseach? How gay are you? Now your going to teams QB getting hurt. Will you never stop? USC isn't in the NC Game because they play pansies. Last week you were saying how USC should be there because their SOS was better then LSU's. Now that their pansy confence got pounded in the end, your saying it's not their fault. You "My Friend" must do reasch on things that you yourself have said.
 

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Looks like some egos are getting involved, as usual.

I'd love to see USC and LSU in the Sugar. A few years ago they'd have been there easily. Don't like a team losing 35-7 in their conference championship game playing for national championship. Just doesn't feel right.

Unless the same Michigan team shows up that played against Oregon, Rose Bowl might be closer than some think. Scott is right -- a real classic.

Be nice, fellows.
 

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Fluidoz

Your post make no sense at all. Not to mention it is poorly written but what you posted is wrong. Every week I kept saying USC SOS was ranked higher than LSU up to that point. I was 100% right with my analysis, go look up the BCS SOS each week. I said all year it was UNLIKELY for LSU to pass USC if they did not pass USC in the human polls. The so called "experts" kept saying only OSU and MIAMI were threats to pass USC so I was not alone. Unfortunately for USC every team USC played tanked at the end of the year and the killer was WSU losing to UW. LSU only was ahead of USC by .15 in the Final BCS and remember, "everything" went wrong for USC at the end of the year. LSU passed USC in SOS because WSU, ND, Hawaii all tanked at the end of the season costing USC SOS pts and Quality Win Points. Not to mention Oregon ST. and UCLA losing prior to playing USC and AU having a down year when they were expected to be top 5. That my friend, is 100% FACTS! You cannot dispute anything I had previously written. USC schedule before the season started was projected to be "VERY" tough, def. a top 10 SOS. Too bad Miami backed out on USC for this years BCA classic, that would have put USC in NC game.

Please do not call me out unless you have something intellectual to say and data to back it up. Your post was done in poor taste and was just proven wrong.
 

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Scott: WSU didn't do you in. I feel ND & Hawaii did you in.

Well LSU would have gotten alot of credit if Auburn played up to their preseason ranking since they played them as well. On a side note the people who ranked Auburn that high should be fired.
 
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