Talk me out of going with these guys.

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Nothing to talk you out of.

Trump is a worthless POS.

Clinton is not quite as bad, but still awful.

I'll vote for either the Libertarian or, if on the ballot, I'll vote Green party.
 

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Nothing to talk you out of.

Trump is a worthless POS.

Clinton is not quite as bad, but still awful.

I'll vote for either the Libertarian or, if on the ballot, I'll vote Green party.

Yep, I cannot vote Hillary OR Trump.

I liked having a colonoscopy. :shrug:

Shit, I just thought, I'm due for another. :0003
 

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Nothing to talk you out of except the fact that Johnson cant win.

Clinton is a worthless lying POS.

Trump is not quite as bad, but still awful.

I'll vote for Trump; but in an election that's essentially 50 seperate elections and unless things drastically change; my vote in the state of Ca is essentially worthless.
 

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First, it's an ad. You can say anything you want in an ad, intelligent immigration reform is what exactly?

Hillary has been labeled a liar by the GOP, ironically their candidate outlies her maybe 100 times over. There is nothing to talk you into or out of. I'll vote for Hillary simply because she brings Bill back to the white house.
 

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First, it's an ad. You can say anything you want in an ad, intelligent immigration reform is what exactly?

Hillary has been labeled a liar by the GOP, ironically their candidate outlies her maybe 100 times over. There is nothing to talk you into or out of. I'll vote for Hillary simply because she brings Bill back to the white house.

I know it's an ad and they all say shit that isn't true, ad or not.

The only time I ever voted either Rep or Dem was for Obama, all the other times I threw my vote away. I may have voted Clinton 2nd term, don't really remember. I definitely won't vote Hillary or Trump.
 

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I know it's an ad and they all say shit that isn't true, ad or not.

The only time I ever voted either Rep or Dem was for Obama, all the other times I threw my vote away. I may have voted Clinton 2nd term, don't really remember. I definitely won't vote Hillary or Trump.
And that's your right. Everyone has their reasons to vote whichever way they want. I generally vote democrat because the platform is usually more in line with the ideals i believe in. Unfortunately, most people think the presidential election is the place to make a stand and actually vote and, in my opinion, cast their ballot for the wrong reasons. Presidents carry little weight in national legislation and the everyday workings of your government. They are, to me, an international figure. They are generally the single most powerful person in the world. I want that person to reflect the strength and resolve of a united social democratic republic. That person can't be an intransigent buffoon that will go into a foreign country such a Scotland and make an ass of himself by being ill prepared and then hawk some steaks. I don't need a businessman because the country isn't a business.
Congress is where we as a country feverishly fail. Poor voter turnouts in mid terms lead to long term congressmen that are the backbone of our economic and legislative system. There is far more restriction on a president's ability to effect any real change as it relates to our everyday life on policies.
Without going to long, my humble advice to you would be to think about what position you're voting for and who do you think would be best suited to represent the country among international powers. Regardless of the right wing propaganda and the coordinated efforts of the GOP to do anything they can to discredit her and throw away your tax dollars on frivolous investigation after investigation, Hillary did a good job as Secretary of State, which should be the president's attache to foreign policy. She's an excellent litigator that has dealt with the foreign leaders in place now. That alone is enough to get my vote.
I am not foolish enough to think any president has the ability to "build a wall", "kick out the muslims", or "take our guns". If anyone believes that Trump is going to be balancing budgets, or pushing through tax reform or anything of the sort, week then you haven't been paying attention the last thirty years. He won't even be the one to write his platform for the election, that is done by the RNC.

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I know it's an ad and they all say shit that isn't true, ad or not.

The only time I ever voted either Rep or Dem was for Obama, all the other times I threw my vote away. I may have voted Clinton 2nd term, don't really remember. I definitely won't vote Hillary or Trump.

a vote for them is as good as a vote for Hillary

I have always voted for the Republican candidate since I turned 18, lesser of the evils

I would love a third party candidate that was electable, they would have my vote for sure, I will walk into the booth in November vote against Hillary, and leave, she is a disaster and everything you are seeing on tv and the web against her is just the tip of the iceberg, she is an evil human being, Trump will at least keep us safe unlike Obama has, Hillary is status quo, Obama has been a miserable failure

I like these guys but they can't win
 

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a vote for them is as good as a vote for Hillary

I have always voted for the Republican candidate since I turned 18, lesser of the evils

I would love a third party candidate that was electable, they would have my vote for sure, I will walk into the booth in November vote against Hillary, and leave, she is a disaster and everything you are seeing on tv and the web against her is just the tip of the iceberg, she is an evil human being, Trump will at least keep us safe unlike Obama has, Hillary is status quo, Obama has been a miserable failure

I like these guys but they can't win
Biggest crock of bullshit ever, keep us safe because Obama hasn't huh? So you felt pretty cozy on 9/12/2001? How about during the last three wars all started by republicans named Bush? That's right, you've always dodged the military live they did so you wouldn't know.

The shit I read on the Web is exactly that.

Just so you know hedge, lying about someone being a liar when you have no proof means the accuser is the liar. That means the person punting the finger in case you can't find the meaning on the Web or in a meme.

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Biggest crock of bullshit ever, keep us safe because Obama hasn't huh? So you felt pretty cozy on 9/12/2001? How about during the last three wars all started by republicans named Bush? That's right, you've always dodged the military live they did so you wouldn't know.

The shit I read on the Web is exactly that.

Just so you know hedge, lying about someone being a liar when you have no proof means the accuser is the liar. That means the person punting the finger in case you can't find the meaning on the Web or in a meme.

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Didnt Bubba get us into a conflict in Bosnia?

Pretty sure it was him because the first lady at the time stated while there she came under heavy sniper fire and expanded on her story.

Then again, as geroge costanza once said, its not a lie if you believe it.....sums up the Clinton's perfectly.
 

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Biggest crock of bullshit ever, keep us safe because Obama hasn't huh? So you felt pretty cozy on 9/12/2001? How about during the last three wars all started by republicans named Bush? That's right, you've always dodged the military live they did so you wouldn't know.

The shit I read on the Web is exactly that.

Just so you know hedge, lying about someone being a liar when you have no proof means the accuser is the liar. That means the person punting the finger in case you can't find the meaning on the Web or in a meme.

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All these mass shootings are because Obama is a pussy and doesn't want to offend the fucking jihadist Muslims who are running across our non existent border, if Donald stops the influx of illegals it will be worth it, Hillary is a fraud, she has been one since the 60's during watergate

The Clinton crime family
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All these mass shootings are because Obama is a pussy and doesn't want to offend the fucking jihadist Muslims who are running across our non existent border, if Donald stops the influx of illegals it will be worth it, Hillary is a fraud, she has been one since the 60's during watergate

The Clinton crime family
http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...on-crime-family-where-politics-and-mafia-meet

Just which mass shooting are you referring to "all of these"?

Aurora, Colorado, James Holmes, white American Christian
Newton, CT, Adam Lonza, white American
Blacksburg, VA, Seung Chi, Asian American
Charleston, SC, Dylan Roof, white American
Newton, KS, Cedric Ford, white American.
Kalamozo, MI, Jason Dalton, white American

And there are a hundred more, mass shootings by good 'ole 'merican whiteboys.

Read for yourself. Then tell us how many are Obama's fault.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_by_year

Facts bite your ass, don't they, moron?
 

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Just which mass shooting are you referring to "all of these"?

Aurora, Colorado, James Holmes, white American Christian
Newton, CT, Adam Lonza, white American
Blacksburg, VA, Seung Chi, Asian American
Charleston, SC, Dylan Roof, white American
Newton, KS, Cedric Ford, white American.
Kalamozo, MI, Jason Dalton, white American

And there are a hundred more, mass shootings by good 'ole 'merican whiteboys.

Read for yourself. Then tell us how many are Obama's fault.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_by_year

Facts bite your ass, don't they, moron?


Ummmm....did you forget about this guy?

Some facts about Omar Mateen.

He was a child of immigrants, born and raised in the United States.

He pledged allegiance to Hezbollah, Al-Qaeda AND ISIS, 3 organizations that are de facto at war with each other, showing he was ignorant about all 3, let alone politics in the Middle East in general.

He knew practically nothing about Islam and according to his wife, father and community he was not religious in the slightest.

He struggled with his toxic masculinity, had an alcohol problem and beat up his wife for which he was never charged.

He was racist towards minorities and in the shooting killed predominantly queer people of color.

Despite his own alleged queer inclinations, he was a homophobe in a country where still 1 in 5 LGBTQ people are victims of hate crimes and there are more than a 100 anti-LGBTQ bills (from anti-gay marriage to bathroom bills) pending in dozens of states.

He idolized the NYPD, one of the country's most well-known and cherished institutions that has an army bigger than ISIS, is known to indiscriminately, unwarrantedly and disproportionally spy on Muslims and which engages in systematic violence against Blacks, Latin@'s and other minorities.

He beat juveniles in detention centers over the head for a living as he worked for and got his training from the private security firm G4S, which is not only one of the foremost stakeholders in the Prison?industrial complex, but is also invested in mass deportations as it runs immigration detention centers and participates in the occupation of Palestine, training other mass killers in Israel to target and imprison Palestinians.

He staged a mass shooting in a country that has seen a 1,000 mass shootings in the last 1,200 days.

So basically he was ignorant, self-conflicted, racist, sexist, homophobe, had a sick admiration for authority and was obsessed with guns and violence, eventually acting upon all of that.

Sorry folks, but your supposed "Islamic radical terrorist from Afghan" is as American as apple pie made with homegrown apples and baked in an American made oven.

Just sayin'....

Peace! :)
 

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Ummmm....did you forget about this guy?

No, I didn't forget that born-in-the-USA killer.

There were 10,000 gun killings in the USA last year.

Maybe one of the Muslim haters will tell us how many were done by Muslims, how many by Jews, how many by Christians and how many by atheists.

I'll even give them a hint: Most gun killings were done by American-born Christains.
 

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All these mass shootings are because Obama is a pussy and doesn't want to offend the fucking jihadist Muslims who are running across our non existent border, if Donald stops the influx of illegals it will be worth it, Hillary is a fraud, she has been one since the 60's during watergate

The Clinton crime family
http://www.nationalreview.com/artic...on-crime-family-where-politics-and-mafia-meet
Can we just clear one thing up? You know that a president doesn't have the ability to play the "because I said so" card and just stop immigration, right?

And of course, I couldn't be more confident in the knowledge that you know Trump Steaks are shipped from south America right?


Do you put your hand over your heart and face the flag every time you hear the anthem?

Of course you don't, but you're the heartbeat of America according to you and no other guys.

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