The Hidden Health Tax
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I would like us all to foot the bill. Same with fire, police, and schools.
I do not believe health care should be a 'for profit' industry. I think it goes against humane way of thinking.
And fuck you anyway. Nobody has ever supported me for anything. If I come down with some horrible ailment, I'll pay cash - either here or in another country if it's cheaper.
i have your best interests at heart,believe me....what if you need a colonoscopy?....and decide the hell with it because you don`t have insurance?....maybe then find out you have colon cancer?....
it can happen...you`re playing russian roulette with the most important thing you have...your health......
what if you get married?...
very irresponsible...:nono:
not only are you hurting yourself,but you`re a guy that can afford insurance,yet you`d rather others dig in their pockets to bail you out?...
what are you thinking?...
Why don't you lecture someone who gives a fuck what you think? Granted, that limits the idiot pool to about zero, but you know what I mean.
He said he would pay cash if he had problems and you come back with 'yet you'd rather others dig in their pockets to bail you out.'
Why the fuck would you care if he paid cash or had health insurance? Seriously.
Bizarro world, as always.
Hall of Fame post right here. If I ever had to explain weasey to someone - this would be the post to start with.
Smurph if u get a stone send me an email and i will send u some pain pills. This way we have the stones covered on my, "our fault insurance policy". Since u don't have insurance can't u get some of that free Insurance DTB always talks about? I tried to get some but i couldn't find it anywhere. Maybe u will have better luck.
I had a kidney stone 10 years ago. Apparently not as bad as yours. I had a week of pain, but it eventually passed.
But dude - I want those pills anyway.
We are still a capitalist country for now I think... every industry should make a profit or close their doors. It is your choice to not have insurance, take the chance why not, I do not take risks like not having insurance:nono:
i wonder what your thoughts would be if self employed and cost you around $1200 a month out of pocket. :shrug:
easy to say when you get it for free.
Do any of you honestly believe we would be developing and researching as many new drugs/cures if we had government healthcare:shrug: Easy to find fault with our system, but greed also pushes these companies to develop the next great drugs.
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You are such an uneducated cocksucker. The problem is that you really think you are intelligent. I can deal with Hedgie and Skul. They know they are idiots. You need to come to terms.
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My son stayed in a hospital for about 23 hours and it cost $7,000. Just tests and some pain medicine he had to beg for. This is a sorry system and this is a system that Americans are proud of? How can you defend this?
People who pay for health insurance, are you really insured? Or are you just a sucker who keeps the insurance companies fat every month? Read this:
DOUG CHRISTENSEN
Bought a $400-a-month policy?but didn't read the details
As they held hands in the hospital admissions office, Doug and Dana Christensen's only focus was on how the day's surgery might halt the bone cancer that had spread to Doug's lung. That is, until a clerk hunched over their paperwork said, "This is the worst insurance policy I've ever seen," before asking for an $8,000 payment in advance. "I freaked out," says Dana. "How were we going to come up with the money?" That morning in 2002, Doug, a California boat customizer, and Dana, a court reporter, learned the insurance they bought through MEGA Life for $418 a month would not help Doug in his hour of need. "We were told it would pay 80 percent of hospitalization and that all doctor visits were covered," says Dana. Having survived a previous cancer scare, Doug had taken out a $100,000 supplemental chemotherapy policy. But that coverage topped out at $1,000 per day?even though his daily chemo ran as high as $18,000. In all, their insurance paid less than a fifth of his bills.
By fall, Doug, 49, knew he'd lost his battle?and had run up $450,000 in debt. "He asked me to divorce him so I wouldn't be responsible," says Dana. "I told him I believed in my vows, 'In sickness and in health.'" Doug died that Oct. 2.
Widowed and pursued by bill collectors, Dana sued MEGA Life and won a settlement for $1.7 million. A company rep admits no wrongdoing: "We are diligent in our efforts to make sure customers understand the policies."
But Dana, 49, has lobbied Washington for a change in the laws. "On one of his last days I found Doug looking out the window," she says. "I asked him, 'What's up?' He said, 'This should not happen. This is wrong. This is just wrong.'"
ANNETTE NOE
A deaf girl's insurer only agreed to provide a hearing device for one ear?at least at first
Doug Noe is a big fan of Michael Moore, the provocative director of Fahrenheit 9/11. Last year, he learned Moore was working on Sicko just as Noe was waging a battle with his insurer, CIGNA. His 3-year-old daughter Annette had been born deaf and needed a pair of high-tech devices known as cochlear implants, one for each ear, to hear and develop normal speech. But days before the scheduled surgery, CIGNA, to whom Noe had been paying $600 monthly premiums, okayed just one implant?deeming the second "experimental."
Noe, 60, decided to e-mail Moore and tell him his story. He also fired off a letter to CIGNA: "The noted filmmaker Michael Moore is gathering health-care horror stories. Has your CEO ever been in a film before?"
The day before a conference call last May to argue his case, Noe got a voice mail from CIGNA saying the company had "redecided" his appeal. While not commenting on the specifics, CIGNA's Dr. Jeffrey Kang says that, at that time, it was their policy not to cover two implants because of a risk for bacterial meningitis. But Annette Noe is making great progress with the two implants she received. "How can anybody deny treatment for a child with disabilities?" asks her father. "In this country?"
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20061418,00.html
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Do you think that if the US were to disappear tomorrow that no new drugs would be discovered? I tell you one thing, when they are they'll be a hell of alot cheaper.
What good is a new drug that can cure you if you can't afford it?
my liberal leaning friend, nothing is free, I pay 175.00 per month and my employer pays 175 per month for my insurance. I agree the system is broke, how do we fix it? I do not want socialized medicine though.
well, police and fire departments are state agencies, they work for me not profit...I guess you smartasses need me to clarify, I meant industries that are for profit.
Maybe we can just redefine health care as not being an "industry" then. Would that be OK?
Cie, you call me a broken record but you do not call Dogs or Weasel a broken record for complaining about Obama's spending to get us out of the mess that Bush built. I find that confusing because you claim not to align yourself with any political party or affiliation yet you only dump on one side. Interesting is all I am saying. And for the record I am disapointed that Obama has not put revamping the Health Care System on top og his agenda. I think it would go a long way in helping other problems.
Smurph If any consolation--the majority of young-single males who are not provided benefits thru employment-opt not to carry coverage--it's the feeling of being invincible at that age. Matter of fact when you hear all the harping from politicians and media about millions in U.S. not covered by healthcare--it is not due to cost but due to fact regardless of cost they don't feel it necessary.
Ran quote on male age 30 non smoker-
Cost of best major medical plan here is $126/month for $250 ded
and $67 a month for $2,500 ded.
--again not chastising you as the bulk of those in your position hold same view.
--its all about transferring risk you don't want to cover yourself.
At young ages your risk
(chances of getting sick--and what you have to lose in event you do and can't pay)
--is not that great--as you get older
As you get older and accumulate more both those risks will increase.
Ran quote on male age 30 non smoker-
Cost of best major medical plan here is $126/month for $250 ded
and $67 a month for $2,500 ded.
--again not chastising you as the bulk of those in your position hold same view.
--its all about transferring risk you don't want to cover yourself.
At young ages your risk
(chances of getting sick--and what you have to lose in event you do and can't pay)
--is not that great--as you get older
As you get older and accumulate more both those risks will increase.
