The hypocrisies by the liberals is just astounding.

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In Wisconsin, we are seeing a revolt by the Unions, a political arm of the Democrats, truly in it's usual form as thugs and brutality. You see nasty signs of Hitler and other demeaning slogans in reference to their current governor, Scott Walker (R). It's just amazes me that when the Tea Party was formed 2 years ago, the pathetic liberals were calling them thugs, racists and other despicable names and accusing them of holding up signs that depicted President Obama in a not so admirable light. None of this was true, but the Democrats continued with their nasty ways like usual and of course the liberal media, is in the fry as well, with their lack of honest reporting.

Now we have "Organizing for Americans" a political arm of the Democrats and the DNC busing members into Wisconsin holding riots and disturbing a normal way of life we all enjoy in our everyday lives. They are picketing on the lawns and at homes of GOP folks and trashing their properties, just like they did during the housing meltdown. They are nothing more than a band of thugs out to destroy any reasonable compromise that should be held in a legitimate, legislative body of government, where these difference should be aired out. Democrats, in their cowardly way are all in hiding. They pulled a similar stunt in Texas and went into hiding when these piss-ants couldn't get their way.

Now we Have President Obama getting into another local issue without understanding the total facts and commenting on the cuff. He states that what is happening in Wisconsin is nothing more than an attack on Unions. Yes Mr. President, it is truly unfortunate that you have make an opinion without the facts, like you did when you commented on the Conn. issue with a white Police Officer and your African-American professor friend..You didn't have the facts then and now, as with other issues you got yourself into, only to come back and make amends. This makes you look not very Presidential and appear you are playing political games for your own benefit.

President Reagan showed leadership and backbone when he stood up to the Air Traffic Controllers and fired the whole bunch. President Obama in his typical response, lacks leadership and again, punts like he did with Healthcare and the current budget to other controlling entities, as if he has no command or understanding of the issues.

This will reverberate throughout the country that Unions want their benefits and you, the private sector, must pay up. This will backfire on the liberals and 2012 will be another great election cycle for the conservatives.

Yes Mr. President, let's have this debate on whether the private sector should fund the pensions and medical benefits to the Unions. This debate I'm willing to have.

Mr. President, show some leadership and tell your Union friends to stop with the trespassing and the name calling that your party, unfounded, referred to the conservatives two years ago and is still going on. We are all Americans and we all want a strong America, but since you came into office, this nation is more polarized then anytime in America's history since the Civil War. It has to start with you Mr.President, show some leadership like you campaigned on.

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We are all Americans and we all want a strong America, but since you came into office, this nation is more polarized then anytime in America's history since the Civil War.
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Sure the country is polarized. 70% of the population are reasonable people and 30% are freaking morons, birthers.

Assholes like this polarize me -

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I?m sick to death of any and all references to Hitler. Nobody should be compared to the man and if you do you lose all credibility in any argument you might be trying to make.

And by the way it's not a liberal / conservative thing...its a common decency thing.

It also cheapens the entirety of what the greatest generation fought and died for, because I don?t think we could do it today.
 

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I?m sick to death of any and all references to Hitler. Nobody should be compared to the man and if you do you lose all credibility in any argument you might be trying to make.

And by the way it's not a liberal / conservative thing...its a common decency thing.

It also cheapens the entirety of what the greatest generation fought and died for, because I don?t think we could do it today.

I agree we could not do it today. The reason being is thaot the 80% of the top 5% is only out for themselves. How much can they get. What's in for them. They used to look out for their companies and their workers now they just look out for themselves and in doing so have brought this country to its knees.

Until they turn it around as a country we will fail because the burdon on the middle class is way too much.
 
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I agree we could not do it today. The reason being is thaot the 80% of the top 5% is only outfor themselves. How much can they get. What's in for them. They used to look out for their companies and their workers now they just look out for themselves and in doing so have brought this country to its knees.

Until they turn it around as a country we will fail because the burdon on the middleclass is way too much.

I blame rap music, but what do I know.
 

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I admire you for one thing, Varok, and I'm sure you can guess what it is, with this post. Enough about that...

I also agree that the people you are referring to that are taking this to legislators homes, and doing the Hitler crap are very wrong in what they are doing. They should be ripped for it, just like those that did it before to dems and Obama should have been ripped for it.

Somehow, I doubt you mentioned these behaviors back then, but maybe you did...

I disagree with much of your tone on this, and some of the fundamental ways of looking at the real issue at stake here, but you didn't talk much about that, so no need to banter about that. The paintbrush about dems and liberals demeans you points, as always, IMO, but you do have some valid points here.

I don't think for one second the Governor's main focus is balancing the budget with this exercise. It's a part of it, yes, but again, it's far from across the board, and it is certainly a political angle and only going after a certain segment of unions and public officials - one that does not agree with his own party.
 

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Varok, I don't think you'd like it here in Wisconsin, where we like to stand up to corporate tyranny and their politician puppets like Scott Walker and fight for the rights of the working man and the unions that built the middle-class in this country. That's just how we roll in Wisconsin. I don't think you would like it here at all, Varok.
 

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Varok, I don't think you'd like it here in Wisconsin, where we like to stand up to corporate tyranny and their politician puppets like Scott Walker and fight for the rights of the working man and the unions that built the middle-class in this country. That's just how we roll in Wisconsin. I don't think you would like it here at all, Varok.

With all due respect, you neighbor Michigan, across the lake, is in the crapper because the Unions have bankrupt the state and has the highest unemployment rate than any state for the last 30 years. Almost every manufacturing plant has left.

Democrats always like to expound on the fact the jobs are going overseas and it's all because of the Republicans. Well, to a point, it may be a reasonable assumption, however, this isn't exactly the truth. Democrats will never go against their money machine (Unions) so they continue to become beholding to the factions that keep them in office, even at the determent of the welfare of their state. Now Wisconsin, is on the verge of losing right along with Michigan the jobs that you folks so proudly hailed in our grandfathers era..Those days are gone.

It's not all about Corporate tyranny. Yes, those day's of the corporate tyrant from the 20's to 50'3 established the rightful position of Unions for the rights of workers was well founded, but the Unions expounded on their positions not for just the sake of their members but NOW for their own greed.

You may not believe this, but Unions are not here now, for your sake ,but the inevitability that their numbers are dwindling and they need your monthly dues..In other words, the corporate tyrant has reversed itself that now the Unions are the corporate tyrant.

The Democratic party will never survive without the powerful contribution of Unions campaign dues and many states that don't have the "Right To work law" will never come to grips with this overwhelming problem of huge pension and medical benefits that is now on the table in Wisconsin and many other states, and this will become the main issue in the 2012 campaign.

So President Obama did a very clever thing and transferred the ownership within the Union to gain a very powerful foothold into the US government (SEIU)..This very significant Union now is one of the most powerful Unions and is subsidized by taxpayers and in turn subsidizes the Democratic campaign contributions never seen in the history of this country..Clever indeed!!..However, it has come to heads and what is happening in Wisconsin, is now moving into the rust belt (Middle America) Ohio, Illinois and the like, will become the exact backfire that the Obama and the Unions organizers never realized.

Have a good day
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Varok, I don't think you'd like it here in Wisconsin, where we like to stand up to corporate tyranny and their politician puppets like Scott Walker and fight for the rights of the working man and the unions that built the middle-class in this country. That's just how we roll in Wisconsin. I don't think you would like it here at all, Varok.

Oh! A side note..I was raised in Canada, born in Holland and now in Maryland...Hardly a conservative state..Maryland is blue and true liberal.

By the way..My favorite team has always been the Packers, going back to the 60's

Have a good day
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The Democratic party will never survive without the powerful contribution of Unions campaign dues

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That's the point, Varok. That's what this is all about. If the Republicans break the unions, it'll be the death knell of the Democratic Party in this country.

It may already be too late to save the Democratic Party since the Citizens United ruling. Of the top 10 contributors to the 2010 mid-term election, 7 were corporate backed right-wing organizations. The 3 that were not were labor unions. If the Republicans succeed in busting the remaining unions in this country, the Democrats don't stand a chance in future elections.

The Republicans know this and that's what this is about. The state budget shortfalls are just a convenient smokescreen. To see the truth Varok, you must not only open your eyes... you must open your mind.
 

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That's the point, Varok. That's what this is all about. If the Republicans break the unions, it'll be the death knell of the Democratic Party in this country.

It may already be too late to save the Democratic Party since the Citizens United ruling. Of the top 10 contributors to the 2010 mid-term election, 7 were corporate backed right-wing organizations. The 3 that were not were labor unions. If the Republicans succeed in busting the remaining unions in this country, the Democrats don't stand a chance in future elections.

The Republicans know this and that's what this is about. The state budget shortfalls are just a convenient smokescreen. To see the truth Varok, you must not only open your eyes... you must open your mind.

Mr.Trench, it isn't that bad..Sure the opposite side may blame the other, but there is such a law known as the "Employment fairness act".

Aside of that.. The issue is where do the people stand.

Demogoding for what is fair and right runs deep on both sides,.

When I hear the speaker of the Senate, Harry Reid saying things like "I don't understand why Hispanics could be Republicans" tells me that they ( Democrats) own that minority electorate. When many liberal pundits refer to African-American conservatives like Herman Cane, the owner of Dominos pizza and a very well respected Business man and Condi Rice, Colon Powell, Chief justice Thomas and other as nothing more than Republican puppets in black skin is an attempt to their followers that you should play to the Choir..This doesn't give me any confidence that the liberals believe in independent thinking or thought. This scares Liberals most, that they could lose their flock to independent thinking.

Why is it that the liberals and the liberal media feel that they own the black electoral vote and other minorities?

In other words. The Democratic leaders would like their folks to not think for themselves, but as a collect unit..This isn't what America was founded on.

The Democratic party has always with their Union counterparts feel, your big tent is part of the Pied Piper mentality..I don't feel that to be the case and sure most Americans feel they can manage on their own..

Have a good day
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Mr.Trench, it isn't that bad..Sure the opposite side may blame the other, but there is such a law known as the "Employment fairness act".

Aside of that.. The issue is where do the people stand.

Demogoding for what is fair and right runs deep on both sides,.

When I hear the speaker of the Senate, Harry Reid saying things like "I don't understand why Hispanics could be Republicans" tells me that they ( Democrats) own that minority electorate. When many liberal pundits refer to African-American conservatives like Herman Cane, the owner of Dominos pizza and a very well respected Business man and Condi Rice, Colon Powell, Chief justice Thomas and other as nothing more than Republican puppets in black skin is an exact attempt to their followers that you should play to the Choir..This doesn't give me any confidence that the liberal believe in independent thinking.

Why is it that the liberals and the liberal media feel that they own the black electoral vote and other minorities?

In other words. The Democratic leaders would like their folks to not think for themselves, but as a collect unit..This isn't what America was founded on.

The Democratic party has always with their Union counterparts feel, your big tent is part of the pied piper mentality..I don't feel that to be the case and sure most Americans feel they can manage on their own..

Have a good day
Varok


Nice chatting with you Mr. Trench and have a good weekend.

Be good Jack and stop rolling your eyes. lol


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It's just amazes me that when the Tea Party was formed 2 years ago, the pathetic liberals were calling them thugs, racists and other despicable names and accusing them of holding up signs that depicted President Obama in a not so admirable light. None of this was true, but the Democrats continued with their nasty ways like usual and of course the liberal media, is in the fry as well, with their lack of honest reporting.

I believe we called the Tea Partiers uneducated, clueless, and just plain wrong. Racist is accurate, thug probably is not. We are afraid of their stupidity, not their brawn.


NOW, for the part highlighted in your rant: Is it really "accusing" when you have pictures of the Tea Partiers holding the signs? Is "not so admirable light" the best way to describe putting a Hitler mustache on Obama? You're a lost cause dude. "None of this was true" you say? How the hell can you breathe when your head is buried this deep in the sand?

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