no its not a real religon..only the 2nd largest religon in the world.if islam was the way you described it i think you would have had a few more 9/11s by now..i can see that you and your buddies are from such a diverse area and your thoughts and veiws come from expirence with other types of people.LUX said:
The Mayor of NO Goes Ballistic
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moe777 said:
What makes you think that there isn't another 9/11 in the planning stages? Is it out of the realm of possibilities that the people who would carry such an act out could be laying low and blending into society until ordered to proceed with an attack? I don't, this is how they operate. What about the shit in Spain and London and every freaking day in Iraq? Do you feel these are peaceful people?
Regarding my area, or 65 and DTB's town, what does that have to do with anything? I am pretty well traveled, and as I said earlier, I've spent 22 of my 33 years in NY, so I've been exposed to many cultures. I was in NY for my 30th b-day and experienced 9/11 first hand and will never underestimate those people again. I am not a racist by any means, I consider myself to be a realist.
iraq and plenty of other places are war zones,people fight back,people loot,survival makes you do crazt things..there are over 1 billion muslims,if they are what you think they are 9/11s would be happening eveyother day.their are exrtemists ,psycos who have conrtol over certian people and do horrible things.you shouldnt condem the other 99% or even 95%.are all germans evil?you are to simple minded,its been fun,you just dont get it,or dont want to..gl in all your wagers this football season.i like to spend my time in the other forums.
WTF are you even talking about with "people loot,survival makes you do crazt things"?? Talk about fvcking simple minded, you can't even stay on topic.
Oh, thanks for bringing me up to speed on the other war zones of Spain and London, didn't know about those. Your line of thinking, or lack there of, is why we got attacked the first time. Enjoy your one-way trip on the Disoriented Express.
Oh, thanks for bringing me up to speed on the other war zones of Spain and London, didn't know about those. Your line of thinking, or lack there of, is why we got attacked the first time. Enjoy your one-way trip on the Disoriented Express.
Ocelot I have watched alot of footage of what these people are going through and it saddens me and think it is horrible. Nobody should have to go through what these people have.You are right most of these people are poor or old or both and did not have the means to leave. Where were they supposed to go? Were they supposed to walk away from the cane? But the fact remains it takes days to moblize the federal aid. I agree it has been too slow and should have been quicker but the Mayor of N.O. should have had a plan to fill the gap before federal aid arrived. Obviously he did not along with the state. They have known for years if the big one hit if would be a disaster but they did not have a plan? The Mayor can only blame himself. What a dumbass. Do not need to listen to his rant. You want to blame bush and make it racial. Blame him.
I haven't entered my .02 worth yet, so here it goes.
Most of what is going on seems atypical of the minority community the past couple of decades. Make bad decisions, buck authority, allow and overlook figments of lawlessness and let it infiltrate your segment of society.............and then not take responsibility for your actions and blame someone else when you come up short.
Perhaps they would have gotten more help quicker if their "brothers" weren't shooting at the incoming help. These folks , to me, are the real culprits, and somehow (impossibly)should be dealt with severely.
The mayor of N O milked and bilked these people dry. He didn't even hurry back to the city in the aftermath. The governor is no better........where was the mobilization of the city's and parish's transportation system? Perhaps George W hijacked all their buses, I don't know. It seems they want all to think that.
The people were told repeatedly to evacuate...........as evidenced, many did not. I saw films of defiant people saying"No. no,no, I will not go". Now, I am not aiming this at the sick or infirmed, etc. but I have trouble with the excuse of no transportation, etc. The focal point now being that one need not be a rocket scientist to realize you live in a bowl, surrounded by water and are 6-10 feet below sea level and a cat 5 hurricane has been heading your way for 2-3 days.
Seriously, now, Give this hypothetical scererio some thought: Instead of hurricane Katrina coming on Aug 29, let's suppose it was a free concert a bit out of town featuring puff diddly, lil kim & fiddy cent. Or, let's say Nike was to set up shop north of the lake and was giving away free sneaks to anyone who came. How many from the same community would have improvised and got their fanny to that spot?? My guess is the vast majority. Many
made a plethora of bad decisions in that area and should realize that and take responsibility instead of blaming others. Much more help would come if local people/govt just admit some of their mistakes and bad decision making and promise to try to make it better next time around. Haven't they learned anything about human nature?
I don't mean to sound insensitive, as I live in a hurricane zone myself . As a matter of fact, my town on the east coast of Florida took the first direct eye hit from Katrina..........luckily for us it only hit as a cat 1. Winds here were "only" 80-85 mph. I took an uninsured hit for a couple of thousand dollars. Some of my favorite landscape & foliage is gone. I have evacuated my home before when the situation warranted...........albeit, it was not an easy task as I had no place to take my 7 pets.
And, yes, I am sending funds to the area. Most of those funds will be directed towards the animal rescue groups who really need it and stand a good chance of being overlooked for donations at this time. At least I know that none of the animals will shoot at the "help" when it arrives.
If anyone wants any addresses etc. of bonafide animal rescue groups, please just ask jack for my e mail address or ask in a forum and I will be happy to provide them. Perhaps I will start a thread referring to such, maybe that is a better idea.
GL to all the victims
Most of what is going on seems atypical of the minority community the past couple of decades. Make bad decisions, buck authority, allow and overlook figments of lawlessness and let it infiltrate your segment of society.............and then not take responsibility for your actions and blame someone else when you come up short.
Perhaps they would have gotten more help quicker if their "brothers" weren't shooting at the incoming help. These folks , to me, are the real culprits, and somehow (impossibly)should be dealt with severely.
The mayor of N O milked and bilked these people dry. He didn't even hurry back to the city in the aftermath. The governor is no better........where was the mobilization of the city's and parish's transportation system? Perhaps George W hijacked all their buses, I don't know. It seems they want all to think that.
The people were told repeatedly to evacuate...........as evidenced, many did not. I saw films of defiant people saying"No. no,no, I will not go". Now, I am not aiming this at the sick or infirmed, etc. but I have trouble with the excuse of no transportation, etc. The focal point now being that one need not be a rocket scientist to realize you live in a bowl, surrounded by water and are 6-10 feet below sea level and a cat 5 hurricane has been heading your way for 2-3 days.
Seriously, now, Give this hypothetical scererio some thought: Instead of hurricane Katrina coming on Aug 29, let's suppose it was a free concert a bit out of town featuring puff diddly, lil kim & fiddy cent. Or, let's say Nike was to set up shop north of the lake and was giving away free sneaks to anyone who came. How many from the same community would have improvised and got their fanny to that spot?? My guess is the vast majority. Many
made a plethora of bad decisions in that area and should realize that and take responsibility instead of blaming others. Much more help would come if local people/govt just admit some of their mistakes and bad decision making and promise to try to make it better next time around. Haven't they learned anything about human nature?
I don't mean to sound insensitive, as I live in a hurricane zone myself . As a matter of fact, my town on the east coast of Florida took the first direct eye hit from Katrina..........luckily for us it only hit as a cat 1. Winds here were "only" 80-85 mph. I took an uninsured hit for a couple of thousand dollars. Some of my favorite landscape & foliage is gone. I have evacuated my home before when the situation warranted...........albeit, it was not an easy task as I had no place to take my 7 pets.
And, yes, I am sending funds to the area. Most of those funds will be directed towards the animal rescue groups who really need it and stand a good chance of being overlooked for donations at this time. At least I know that none of the animals will shoot at the "help" when it arrives.
If anyone wants any addresses etc. of bonafide animal rescue groups, please just ask jack for my e mail address or ask in a forum and I will be happy to provide them. Perhaps I will start a thread referring to such, maybe that is a better idea.
GL to all the victims
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hitman.....thank you for putting words in for me that i was too lazy to type...... don't think there is a thing you said that i could disagree with. ('cept that i live in a tornado zone rather than a hurricaine zone)
the true test will be next time an evacuation is ordered anywhere in the US.... bet the poor find a way next time.
the true test will be next time an evacuation is ordered anywhere in the US.... bet the poor find a way next time.
Especially Fort Hood, since it's right there. They should have been there on Wednesday at the latest.
One thing that comes to mind is that I really can't understand why people are so surprised at the chaos and crime that has occurred after the storm in N.O. This city is full of criminals and challenges for murder capitol of the U.S. every year. They were just doing what they do on most other days.
homedog said:
The last two days have been totally peaceful(that's what comes with any sort of authoritative presence) , with thousands of good people(and surely a few bad apples) being gratefully evacuated.
Obviously, the people that committed crimes should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but the great majority of people being evacuated were good people/victims.
They found out even if you wish you can not empty a city of 400000 in 36 hours. First they need to be told witch way was safe. Just going inland 20 miles didn't get job done. In Mississippi damage was as far in as 50 miles. What direction was best. West East or just North. Remember this storm took a turn in last 4 hours to the east more then they thought it would. They even thought N OR for most part had been spared. But then the dikes broke and in less then 12 hours they had there mess. It was interesting watching the grid lock on I-10 going out of N OR. There dam lucky they did not have the last 120000 trying to get out. They might have had a more then a few thousands die on those bridges. You got to move folks fast and with a place to go.
homedog said:
Nice call Homedog :clap:
I'm still waiting for the "media" to bring up the extremely high interests of the city's drug trade on all of the chaos. From the users to the dealers this explains a lot of the activity down there. Guess it's not PC to say anything about it. From what I've heard off local radio, many of the hospitals, care centers, and retirement facilties were looted, by "bad apples" or lifelong criminals as I like to call them, for a hunger of a different type. Regardless, it will make one hell of a movie down the road. Truth is always stranger than fiction.
