The PGA is disgracing their own game
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That must have been very disturbing to a few people around here. We must always respect and obey the sacred rules of the USGA, PGA, PTA and most CPA's.
kosar said:
lol, yep! Who was it that was berrating me a few weeks ago about the PGA being elitist and saying I thought local rules/games were fine?
SixFive,
I think it was 'Lay the Wood'. He's played for years and he does not appreciate people like Dawgball and yourself who just make up rules as you go along. We must honor the USGA.
I think it was 'Lay the Wood'. He's played for years and he does not appreciate people like Dawgball and yourself who just make up rules as you go along. We must honor the USGA.
I never understood the "place" part of that rule.
Now, for the most part, it is a good rule. If you hit a shot in the center of the fairway, and the ball plugs 9/10's of the way deep, you should get to pick it up and clean it. I just think it should then be dropped, like any other ball put back into play. They should not be allowed to "tee it up".
Now, for the most part, it is a good rule. If you hit a shot in the center of the fairway, and the ball plugs 9/10's of the way deep, you should get to pick it up and clean it. I just think it should then be dropped, like any other ball put back into play. They should not be allowed to "tee it up".
Kosar and Six Five--
is it that hard to follow the rules when playing golf??
i wonder do you two use your "foot wedge" when your balls are in the woods or do you just throw it out, kick it around to get a good lie en route to your double and triple bogeys, slowing up the pace of play for everyone on the course??
to each is own, i personally enjoy golf by following the rules of the game, if you find enjoyment compromising the rules in order to keep your score low and your handicap at 28, by all means, but if you were ever in competition you would understand that its not that hard to play by the rules.
give it a try one day, you might actually feel a little better about your "true" golf score.
ltw2
is it that hard to follow the rules when playing golf??
i wonder do you two use your "foot wedge" when your balls are in the woods or do you just throw it out, kick it around to get a good lie en route to your double and triple bogeys, slowing up the pace of play for everyone on the course??
to each is own, i personally enjoy golf by following the rules of the game, if you find enjoyment compromising the rules in order to keep your score low and your handicap at 28, by all means, but if you were ever in competition you would understand that its not that hard to play by the rules.
give it a try one day, you might actually feel a little better about your "true" golf score.
ltw2
lay the wood2 said:
lol, a true card carrying member here. Tell me, ltw, what competitions are you in? I would like to follow your progress and root for you.
sixfive
aside from taking a scholarship to play at the collegiate level, ive spent the last 10 years playing competitively throughout the northeast, and the greater metropolitan area, not as much as i would like to anymore because of work, but the level of play is still there.
ltw2
aside from taking a scholarship to play at the collegiate level, ive spent the last 10 years playing competitively throughout the northeast, and the greater metropolitan area, not as much as i would like to anymore because of work, but the level of play is still there.
ltw2
sounds good, ltw, I just took it from your post that you were in competitions now.
So tell me, what do u think about the PGA allowing l,c,&p at the NEC? How is this different than diehard golfers at local courses playing in horrible conditions on courses maintained by drunks and teenagers? Thanks.
So tell me, what do u think about the PGA allowing l,c,&p at the NEC? How is this different than diehard golfers at local courses playing in horrible conditions on courses maintained by drunks and teenagers? Thanks.
six five
unfortunately there are courses out there with low level of maintenance, making conditions hard on the players, i support the local rules in this situation where a lift, clean and place is warranted.
Unfortunately i can not judge what the NEC situation was because i wasnt able to catch and of the tournament this weekend but in the past when i have seen the PGATour adopt this policy for the tournament, they are trying to help make the competition play fairly. Driving a ball between 270 and 300 in the air in the middle of the fairway and having it plug is unfortunate and may directly affect the outcome of the tournament. I think the PGA is just trying to take eliminate these circumstances coming down the stretch on sunday.
ltw2
unfortunately there are courses out there with low level of maintenance, making conditions hard on the players, i support the local rules in this situation where a lift, clean and place is warranted.
Unfortunately i can not judge what the NEC situation was because i wasnt able to catch and of the tournament this weekend but in the past when i have seen the PGATour adopt this policy for the tournament, they are trying to help make the competition play fairly. Driving a ball between 270 and 300 in the air in the middle of the fairway and having it plug is unfortunate and may directly affect the outcome of the tournament. I think the PGA is just trying to take eliminate these circumstances coming down the stretch on sunday.
ltw2
Fellas,
I completely agree with LTW. If the conditions become such that the game is compromised, making a "HUGE" advantange for some, and not for others. Then is it really a fair test of players skills against each other?. I think thats the point here.
I did not see what was happening at the NEC, so maybe they were stretching this rule a bit, but after watching the PGA Championship live, I am truely amazed at just how good these professionals are compared to me.
Golf is a great game, and appropriately named by four letters!!
I completely agree with LTW. If the conditions become such that the game is compromised, making a "HUGE" advantange for some, and not for others. Then is it really a fair test of players skills against each other?. I think thats the point here.
I did not see what was happening at the NEC, so maybe they were stretching this rule a bit, but after watching the PGA Championship live, I am truely amazed at just how good these professionals are compared to me.
Golf is a great game, and appropriately named by four letters!!
I am all for playing by the "rules" and dont pull out the "handwedge" when I get in trouble. But under certrain circumstances exceptions must me made. To speed the game and keep it enjoyable. Do I think a local rule where you hit a blind tee shot right down the middle of the fairway and everyone in your group agrees. But you cant find because the fairway is covered with leaves so you get a free drop n that vicininity of where its would be. Does that compromise game, in my opinion no way. Does playing a ball that OB like lateral hazard on a busy weekend instead of going back ot the tee to try again, not in my opinion.
OB....
OB....
If you hit a ball you think might be ob just hit a provisional (sp?). Doesn't take but a few seconds.
OB....
If you hit a ball you think might be ob just hit a provisional (sp?). Doesn't take but a few seconds.
exactly rrc, dont walk all the way up to the fairway knowing that there is a good shot of that ball not being found and then after 5 minutes, which usually turns into more, decide to walk back to the tee,
re-teeing the ball takes no time at all and it only helps, could never hurt
re-teeing the ball takes no time at all and it only helps, could never hurt
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You will find that REAL golf enthusiast disagree with you here because that is just the luck of golf. I, as well as most PGA players and officials, do agree with you, though.
BTW, my post was made in sarcastic manner.
ltw2--I don't see how this is much different than the ocnversation a few weeks ago. If a rule is agreed upon by the governing body (I don't remember who originally posted the thread but the playing group would be the governing body), then why is this any different than the officials of this tournament deciding that the LCP should be in effect. There is no rule in the book about this. It is a temporary local rule that is put in place to take course condition out of the formula. Should Tiger and the boys be above the rules but amateurs abide at all times because there is no PGA official where they are playing?
