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Scott4USC

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Florida has played a tough schedule and hasn't given up more than 21 points all year (Auburn scored a TD off a botched hook/lateral on last play of game). Not to mention, Auburn scored on a blocked punt. Florida should be unbeaten right now.
I like Urban Meyer and think they can do some things with Leak/Tebow combination.

USC has played a TOUGHER schedule and you can say the same things about USC. Oregon St. O scored 26pts against USC D and that was because USC O turned it over 4 times and as a result OSU started 4 times inside USC territory. Otherwise, NOBODY else has scored over 22pts against USC D.

USC D has faced better offenses than FL D. USC also travelled on the road which FL has not done much! Isn't it easier to play @home vs road? USC played 3 of their first 4 games on the road! :scared FL played 5 of their first 6 games @home. (easy) Teams are most vulnerable early in season, not late.

Why respect FL D and not USC D? USC D which has just held Oregon O to 10pts and CAL O to 9pts. Both of those offenses are better than most in the SEC. (if not all SEC offenses) Def. more sophisticated.

FL OOC = Southern Miss, UCF, Western Carolina, and Florida St. :shrug: :shrug: :shrug:

USC OOC= @Arkansas (50-14), Nebraska (28-10) and ND (#5 BCS team) :scared :scared :scared

Your reasoning is flawed why you support FL. In fact, you should be more impressed with USC. maybe you are biased against USC or a FL gator fan? This argument doesn't make much sense TO ME. I am trying to justify FL being a better team than USC. The stats don't support it. Schedule doesn't support. Play on the field doesn't support it. ????????
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As for Pete Carroll, I'll answer the best I can. First, esp. since last year's ND game....I hate the bastard.
Its hard to tell about the Pac-10, but to me it looks like the last 5+ years....USC is great. Cal is good, UCLA and Oregon are very average and everyone else sucks.
I know Pac-10 have more wide open offenses, but its like they don't even care about defense. Either that, or the defenses just suck.

UCLA D made ND's offense look silly. But other Pac 10 offenses made UCLA's D look silly.

Anyway, there are def. a lot of ways to win and I can't take that away from Carroll. But, lets see him play that same way in another conference. At USC, against Pac 10, he's just playing the odds.

USC has dominated opponents in OOC play and bowl games. In fact, statistically speaking, USC has easier time playing against NON PAC 10 teams.

4th and 2 against Texas might have cost him nat'l championship.

It might have won USC the national championship. USC controlled their fate on that play and came up short. Texas still had to score and they did. USC sorta got 2 chances at winning. 1 with O and 1 with D.

Overall, its not my brand of football. Neither is Weis, but I like him a lot.

Thats cool. There is no right or wrong way. A great coach adapts to his teams strengths. Clear example is Tressel. This year OSU is different offesnive team than they were in past. Winning differently. Sign of a great coach.
 

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I think Fla and USC are pretty even. I wasn't saying Fla should get the chance over USC....I've already said just the opposite.
I just said I had a feeling that Fla had best chance to win. QB play is a big part of the reason.

As for S.O.S....main thing that jumps out is that both teams (if they win out) will have 1-loss and both teams will have played 4 Top25 teams. Sure, USC beat all of them, but they also lost to a non25, so its the same there. Same schedule, same record (except extra game for SEC Champ)

Its pretty even to me.
 

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BTW, ND looked a lot better to me last year. Their def. is a little bit improved.

I think a couple things. They took everyone by surprise and this year people have adjusted to Weis. Also, I think the hype got to Brady Quinn early. I wish they could have played Michigan later in season.

Thats why I hate when people say how every game counts. Those early games shouldn't be PLAYOFF GAMES. They could influence seeding, etc. but ND got knocked out in September.
 

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I think Fla and USC are pretty even. I wasn't saying Fla should get the chance over USC....I've already said just the opposite.
I just said I had a feeling that Fla had best chance to win. QB play is a big part of the reason.

SENIOR LEAK: 19 td's & 11 ints
1ST YEAR STARTER BOOTY: 22 td's & 6 ints

8 of Leaks TD's came against Southern Miss, UCF, and Western Carolina. 9 of Leaks 11 ints came against BCS teams. 8 of Leaks 19 TD's came against non bcs teams.

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As for S.O.S....main thing that jumps out is that both teams (if they win out) will have 1-loss and both teams will have played 4 Top25 teams. Sure, USC beat all of them, but they also lost to a non25, so its the same there. Same schedule, same record (except extra game for SEC Champ)

Its pretty even to me.

Why don't you compare ALL 12 games each team plays. Instead of focusing only on top 4 opponents each team played. :shrug:

Do we give Florida a pass for playing Southern Miss, UCF, Western Carolina? Do we give FL a pass for playing 5 of their first 6 games at home? HOW EASY IS THAT?

Were you impressed with FL beating South Carolina at home? Needing gamecocks to miss 2 fg's and a PAT to win the game? FL won by what, 1pt? AT HOME!
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I just don't get why people respect Florida so much. Glad they are on the outside looking in, but there really are no arguments to support the gators.

I am also puzzled why Meyer and the gators struggle so much in the SEC. The SEC D's don't know how to defend the pass. Why can't FL offense score? Maybe it is Leak. Which leads me back to your statement of choosing FL over USC based on QB play. :shrug:

3rd, Oregon St. will be a top 25 team if they beat Oregon to end the season. Beavers have currently received top 25 votes and would be currently ranked in the top 30-top 35. :SIB
 

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BTW, ND looked a lot better to me last year. Their def. is a little bit improved.

I think a couple things. They took everyone by surprise and this year people have adjusted to Weis. Also, I think the hype got to Brady Quinn early.


Same with USC. The pac 10 teams have caught up to USC and their style. OOC teams have not. Also ND gets everyones best shot. Many people don't factor that when evaluating ND.

I wish they could have played Michigan later in season.

Not me. Playing USC and Michigan late in season be brutal. Schedule set up nice for ND except have Michigan week or 2 later and throw in academy before. Playing @G-Tech, PSU and then Michigan consecutive weeks is brutal to start the year. Michigan supporters don't think so. Michigan played CMU and Vandy before ND. :142smilie

Now things are flipped for ND. They get the easy road to prepare for USC and USC has had to deal with Oregon, CAL prior to ND.

Thats why I hate when people say how every game counts. Those early games shouldn't be PLAYOFF GAMES. They could influence seeding, etc. but ND got knocked out in September.

Every game does and should count, but games in the 2h of season carry more weight. They should carry more weight. 2nd, you have to give teams a chance to redeem themselves. But they have to earn it. Not all teams (with their schedule) get a chance to redeem themselves.

I agree, ND should not be knocked out of the BCS NC because of a Sept. loss. ND is lucky they have a game @USC to redeem themselves. Otherwise they wouldn't deserve it EVEN if they blew out every opponent by 30pts. ND went undefeated since that loss and now play @USC. To me, that is enough to redeem their loss to Michigan in Sept.
 
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