Tiger disqualified?

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Because they don't have rights to show a live shot I think....plus nobody out there now has any shot

See what u are saying earlier...still think he is favorite not to implode which plenty of the guys ahead of him will while he most likely goes red red

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After I posted I realized that must be it, but figure CBS would throw it on CBS Sports instead of college lax. Just thought any coverage, no matter how far back the guys are would be better than all these talking heads.

He definitely has a shot at overcoming the deficit both on his playing ability and the added pressure of the players in front of him. I was just trying to evaluate it based on the odds at the start of the tourney.
 

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He admitted taking the drop back 2 yards further. So I don't buy the fact that he didn"t know.

Ok so let me gets this right then. He knew at the time he violated a rule and then during an interview he tells everyone that he dropped 2 yards back because he was trying to hide the fact that he did it intentionally? I don't agree with that.

He was questioned about it and the committee said he violated no rule. What the hell do you want the guy to do?

I am glad everyone is perfect. If he says he didn't knowingly violate the rule then I will give him the benefit of the doubt.

I will go back to what I continue to say. Nobody fully understand the rules of golf, not the golfers, the USGA or the Masters committee. The rule book is far to complex.

I still think the penalty is 2 severe for this infraction which in reality is rather ridiculous.
 

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Can I call the NCAA and tell them that the charging foul called on Syracuse was wrong?

I mean someone watching tv called about this? That is the joke and makes Masters officials look like complete fools.
 

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The Masters is only tournament that does not have rules officials with every group ... and they are the only tournament not owned by the PGA

if there would have been a rules official on that hole, he should have gotten a ruling before he went to 16 ... then it would have been 2 strokes or done

not saying that he should not have been penalized but every one that is saying that "John Smith" would not have got the same ruling ... well "John Smith" does not have EVERY shot on camera and probably would have never even heard anything about it

Masters blew it by not having an official and ruling on the spot ... they OWN the tournament and made the ruling ... which is correct
 

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masters coverage is so brutal

i mean nobody in their right mind gives a fck about the bs on cbs right now. I mean not right now. You want to air masters memories, i got no problem with it. None. Just not when the leaders have teed off. It's such crap. Have to endure no coverage for an hour while the people with a chance play the beginning holes. I don't get it.

I guarantee if you polled every person who gave a shit about the masters, not one would want to watch highlights over the actual event going on right now.

stupid
 

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The Masters is only tournament that does not have rules officials with every group ... and they are the only tournament not owned by the PGA

if there would have been a rules official on that hole, he should have gotten a ruling before he went to 16 ... then it would have been 2 strokes or done

not saying that he should not have been penalized but every one that is saying that "John Smith" would not have got the same ruling ... well "John Smith" does not have EVERY shot on camera and probably would have never even heard anything about it

Masters blew it by not having an official and ruling on the spot ... they OWN the tournament and made the ruling ... which is correct

100% correct - comical

No penalty, no wait there is one, I think, you either hate him or you like him but DQing him would have been a complete joke after telling him he was ok
 

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Hold on. They reviewed it and then said he was ok before he signed his scorecard.

The committee reviewed the drop while Tiger was still on the course based on a tip received from a TV viewer. They determined no infraction at that time. They did not intervene and discuss with Tiger prior to him signing is card. After Tiger's interview with ESPN, they determined this required further investigation and discussed with Tiger Sat AM.

Rule 33-7 is exactly what this is for, . . . trial by TV. While you can argue that ignorance of the rule is not covered there (which is true), the fact that the committee had information prior to the card being signed and did not approach the player for discussion is key. They are partially at fault for not getting the penalty assessed prior to signing.

Let the witch hunt begin. WTF do you have officials on the course for? Like I said not even the USGA or any other person can fully understand the rule book.

Except for Nole of course "he knows all the rules" :SIB
 

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The Masters is only tournament that does not have rules officials with every group ... and they are the only tournament not owned by the PGA

if there would have been a rules official on that hole, he should have gotten a ruling before he went to 16 ... then it would have been 2 strokes or done

not saying that he should not have been penalized but every one that is saying that "John Smith" would not have got the same ruling ... well "John Smith" does not have EVERY shot on camera and probably would have never even heard anything about it

Masters blew it by not having an official and ruling on the spot ... they OWN the tournament and made the ruling ... which is correct

Exactly.

Someone can correct me if I am wrong but I do believe that they have a USGA exec and a PGA exec on the Masters rules committee as well as other high ranking members within golf. It's not like they have a bunch of billybob's on their rules committee.

I love Faldo's comment. It's black and white. Sure it is Nick the Dick.

Everyone has an opinion of what should be done. The ruling was made and others need to move on. That one hole cost him the lead or 1 shot out of the lead heading into the weekend.

Tiger will be pressing today I would imagine. He will either implode or roar to the front. We shall see.
 

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So the "coverage" on CBS has started and they are going to talk about Cheetah's crap for hours and then show us him shooting 76 today and every once in a while let us know what the leaders are doing. Nice, really nice. :facepalm:
 

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People can disgree until doomsday..the only thing at end of day no one can dispute is..

Tiger is only person in history of pro golf to sign incorrect scorecard and not be DQ'd
 

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People can disgree until doomsday..the only thing at end of day no one can dispute is..

Tiger is only person in history of pro golf to sign incorrect scorecard and not be DQ'd

That IS true. Big surprise they found an excuse to let him slide. :rolleyes:

I fixed this post:

well "Tiger Woods" does have EVERY shot on camera and probably should have heard everything about it

Total bullshit ruling and any other golfer in the tournament would have been disqualified.

They found a loophole for Tiger.

Oh well, I'm over it and my bet on him is still alive.
 

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Ok so let me gets this right then. He knew at the time he violated a rule and then during an interview he tells everyone that he dropped 2 yards back because he was trying to hide the fact that he did it intentionally? I don't agree with that.

He was questioned about it and the committee said he violated no rule. What the hell do you want the guy to do?

I am glad everyone is perfect. If he says he didn't knowingly violate the rule then I will give him the benefit of the doubt.

I will go back to what I continue to say. Nobody fully understand the rules of golf, not the golfers, the USGA or the Masters committee. The rule book is far to complex.

I still think the penalty is 2 severe for this infraction which in reality is rather ridiculous.

Can I call the NCAA and tell them that the charging foul called on Syracuse was wrong?

I mean someone watching tv called about this? That is the joke and makes Masters officials look like complete fools.

The Masters is only tournament that does not have rules officials with every group ... and they are the only tournament not owned by the PGA

if there would have been a rules official on that hole, he should have gotten a ruling before he went to 16 ... then it would have been 2 strokes or done

not saying that he should not have been penalized but every one that is saying that "John Smith" would not have got the same ruling ... well "John Smith" does not have EVERY shot on camera and probably would have never even heard anything about it

Masters blew it by not having an official and ruling on the spot ... they OWN the tournament and made the ruling ... which is correct

100% correct - comical

No penalty, no wait there is one, I think, you either hate him or you like him but DQing him would have been a complete joke after telling him he was ok

Exactly.

Someone can correct me if I am wrong but I do believe that they have a USGA exec and a PGA exec on the Masters rules committee as well as other high ranking members within golf. It's not like they have a bunch of billybob's on their rules committee.

I love Faldo's comment. It's black and white. Sure it is Nick the Dick.

Everyone has an opinion of what should be done. The ruling was made and others need to move on. That one hole cost him the lead or 1 shot out of the lead heading into the weekend.

Tiger will be pressing today I would imagine. He will either implode or roar to the front. We shall see.

The rules are VERY CLEAR, did you guys read them?

He dropped incorrectly. He signed a card that was incorrect.

Let me say that again: HE SIGNED A CARD THAT WAS WRONG. The rule is disqualification. They found a loophole but he still signed a card that was WRONG.

Any other golfer gets disqualified.

You cannot dispute that.
 

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People can disgree until doomsday..the only thing at end of day no one can dispute is..

Tiger is only person in history of pro golf to sign incorrect scorecard and not be DQ'd

You can't actually believe that, and if you do it is beyond comical. Think about the ?history? of pro golf, not only in the US but pro tours all over the world. They always didn?t have every shot on camera. You don?t think ever at some point someone took a bad drop or misinterpreted the rules and it wasn?t noticed? And that same person signed an incorrect scorecard? Such a rosy outlook on the sport you have that there has never been a wrong that wasn?t caught and corrected in time.

Neverteastit pointed to an example of Palmer and Venturi, but guess what there is no evidence to settle that controversy, just two guys? word against the other.
 

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The rules are VERY CLEAR, did you guys read them?

He dropped incorrectly. He signed a card that was incorrect.

Let me say that again: HE SIGNED A CARD THAT WAS WRONG. The rule is disqualification. They found a loophole but he still signed a card that was WRONG.

Any other golfer gets disqualified.

You cannot dispute that.

The loophole is a new rule, I don't believe there has been any other opportunity for the rule to be exercised. I don't think any other golfer gets DQ'd


However, I still think the club officials were wrong, they were informed while he was still playing and deciding to let it go. It wasn't until the interview and the second call that they likely realized more people are going to notice and they took a further look.

Again, I don't think any other golfer gets DQ'd, but I would say that it is likely any other golfer would have been notified coming off the 18 after that phone call.
 

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The loophole is a new rule, I don't believe there has been any other opportunity for the rule to be exercised. I don't think any other golfer gets DQ'd


However, I still think the club officials were wrong, they were informed while he was still playing and deciding to let it go. It wasn't until the interview and the second call that they likely realized more people are going to notice and they took a further look.

Again, I don't think any other golfer gets DQ'd, but I would say that it is likely any other golfer would have been notified coming off the 18 after that phone call.

I haven't been available to hear everything about this issue, but there is a new rule about signing an incorrect scare card? How convenient. :0003

They've always been sticklers about signing an incorrect score card, ever since I can remember.
 

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Woods is a self absorbed piece of shit that would never in a million years even entertain the idea of disqualifying himself. The ruling body for the Masters tried to just let him get away with it until he openly admitted to breaking the rule and improving his lie. You dont like the fact that he gets more camera time so more chances of getting caught???? Well guess what, I don't like watching the waffle house waitress banging piece of dog shit when he is 10 shots off the lead either, but they shove it in my face. At the end of the day he broke the rule and signed a bad card period. The "tiger rule" as I am sure it will now become known, has now set a precedent for tournies to simply not acknowledge a violation until after the fact so that they do not have to DQ anyone or deal with it during the round. Sad:facepalm:
 
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