QB Justin Zwick is listed as QUESTIONABLE with bad shoulder...anyone know what's the deal here..and about his backup?
Took Michigan HUGE and here is why....
- Thread starter Scott4USC
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Looks like Ohio St. starting DB Donte Whitner will be playing Saturday. He did not play last week and was expected to miss this game. I know he can't be 100% but I am a tad disapointed he is playing. Playing hurt could actually hurt OSU more vs playing 2nd string 100% healthy. UM has some very talented WR's and OSU does not have a great DL to put pressure on UM QB. Lets see what happens but I guess Whitner coming back helps OSU and hurts my bet. That is prob why the line dropped 1/2 a pt today to -5. :cursin:
Don't be surprised if Zwick plays at least a quarter of this game, from what a little bird told me Zwick has been getting half the snaps in practice this week. Tressel is not sold on Smith as a QB as he would rather play him as a athlete switching between multiple skill positions.
Forgot to include my other KEY handicapping analysis for taking Michigan over OSU.
Michigan has shown steady improvement on offense throughout the season. Running and passing. That is understandable since they are starting a frosh QB & frosh RB (both outstanding players). Then you factor in a green OL for this year.
Here are the stats to support my analysis.
2.4 ypc Iowa #6 against the run
236 passing yards
2.4 @Indiana #100 against the run
331
4.2 Minny #53 against the run
328
4.8 @ Illinois #99 against the run
114
4.7 @Purdue #9 against the run
190
5.1 Michigan St. #78 against the run
273
5.9 Northwestern #57 against the run
190
Michigan has shown a steady increase in their running game as the season progressed. That is due to their RB and OL getting more experienced and their QB being more a of passing threat to UM's great WR's. Obviously this is NOT the same UM team that played 4-6 weeks ago and they have improved and are now playing their best ball on offense. Back to back games 5.5 ypc and back to back solid passing games. This is what I like to see when betting big on a team and asking them to cover a small number (-3).
Ohio St. is #48 against the run. Michigan has shown they can run the ball well against defenses that are similarly ranked as OSU against the run. Northwestern ranked #57 against the run (UM last recent game) and Minny #52 against the run (5 games ago). There is NO REASON to think Michigan cannot run the ball against Ohio St. Especially when you see the increase in production from the Michigan offense as the season has gone along.
Michigan ran for 4.7 ypc against Purdue who is 9th against the run. That is impressive and Michigan has put together 3 SOLID rushing games in a row coming into the OSU game. That means the OL is starting to become consistent and Hart is running with authority and is now an experienced back. You gotta love that if you are taking UM this Sat.
I certainly do!
Lets talk about the QB. UM QB is has thrown for an average of 217 yards per game in his last 3 games. He only has to be a passing threat in this game. He does not have to win the game for UM. He has shown he is a tough QB and has played in multiple pressure situations this year and has come through for the most part. If OSU blitzes (because I do not think their front 4 can pressure the QB) I am confident Henne will be able to make OSU pay for Blitzing. UM is great at the dump off passes and quick slants. Especially since they have 3 solid WR's and the best WR in the country in Edwards!
If we focus on the other team OSU, we see that they have given up an average of 3.5 yards per carry in their last 3 games against Penn St. @MSU, @Purdue. Michigan has a better rushing and passing attack than PSU, MSU, and PU!
Is OSU all of a sudden going to play better? Is Michigan all of a sudden going to play worse? Will OSU get the breaks they have needed to pull out the games they won this year? OSU has been a bad team this year but this Sat. are they really going to become a good team?
People are caught up in the rivalry and tradition. Michigan should be at least 7pt favorites. Ohio St. is not a good team and they rely on breaks.
Michigan wins this game 31-13.
Once again, I still have not seen player matchups or statistical analysis as to why OSU will win or cover this game. This is good news for all UM backers! I do not believe the rivalry, tradition, home field, freshman playing will have a major impact in this game. I have shown why OSU is an inferior opponent.
GOOD LUCK TO ALL UM BACKERS! Unfortunately for me, I will only be able to watch 1h of this game because I got box seats to the clipper game sat. and I couldn't pass them up for free. Hopefully UM puts it away early but I doubt it. UM is a slow starting team and beats their opponents in the 2h. UM just needs to prevent turnovers and special team scores for OSU. UM also needs to open the passing attack against OSU and not be overly conservative. I do not have 100% faith in Carr in doing that but I am hoping he does. Unfortantely Carr often plays not to lose.
Michigan has shown steady improvement on offense throughout the season. Running and passing. That is understandable since they are starting a frosh QB & frosh RB (both outstanding players). Then you factor in a green OL for this year.
Here are the stats to support my analysis.
2.4 ypc Iowa #6 against the run
236 passing yards
2.4 @Indiana #100 against the run
331
4.2 Minny #53 against the run
328
4.8 @ Illinois #99 against the run
114
4.7 @Purdue #9 against the run
190
5.1 Michigan St. #78 against the run
273
5.9 Northwestern #57 against the run
190
Michigan has shown a steady increase in their running game as the season progressed. That is due to their RB and OL getting more experienced and their QB being more a of passing threat to UM's great WR's. Obviously this is NOT the same UM team that played 4-6 weeks ago and they have improved and are now playing their best ball on offense. Back to back games 5.5 ypc and back to back solid passing games. This is what I like to see when betting big on a team and asking them to cover a small number (-3).
Ohio St. is #48 against the run. Michigan has shown they can run the ball well against defenses that are similarly ranked as OSU against the run. Northwestern ranked #57 against the run (UM last recent game) and Minny #52 against the run (5 games ago). There is NO REASON to think Michigan cannot run the ball against Ohio St. Especially when you see the increase in production from the Michigan offense as the season has gone along.
Michigan ran for 4.7 ypc against Purdue who is 9th against the run. That is impressive and Michigan has put together 3 SOLID rushing games in a row coming into the OSU game. That means the OL is starting to become consistent and Hart is running with authority and is now an experienced back. You gotta love that if you are taking UM this Sat.
I certainly do!
Lets talk about the QB. UM QB is has thrown for an average of 217 yards per game in his last 3 games. He only has to be a passing threat in this game. He does not have to win the game for UM. He has shown he is a tough QB and has played in multiple pressure situations this year and has come through for the most part. If OSU blitzes (because I do not think their front 4 can pressure the QB) I am confident Henne will be able to make OSU pay for Blitzing. UM is great at the dump off passes and quick slants. Especially since they have 3 solid WR's and the best WR in the country in Edwards!
If we focus on the other team OSU, we see that they have given up an average of 3.5 yards per carry in their last 3 games against Penn St. @MSU, @Purdue. Michigan has a better rushing and passing attack than PSU, MSU, and PU!
Is OSU all of a sudden going to play better? Is Michigan all of a sudden going to play worse? Will OSU get the breaks they have needed to pull out the games they won this year? OSU has been a bad team this year but this Sat. are they really going to become a good team?
People are caught up in the rivalry and tradition. Michigan should be at least 7pt favorites. Ohio St. is not a good team and they rely on breaks.
Michigan wins this game 31-13.
Once again, I still have not seen player matchups or statistical analysis as to why OSU will win or cover this game. This is good news for all UM backers! I do not believe the rivalry, tradition, home field, freshman playing will have a major impact in this game. I have shown why OSU is an inferior opponent.
GOOD LUCK TO ALL UM BACKERS! Unfortunately for me, I will only be able to watch 1h of this game because I got box seats to the clipper game sat. and I couldn't pass them up for free. Hopefully UM puts it away early but I doubt it. UM is a slow starting team and beats their opponents in the 2h. UM just needs to prevent turnovers and special team scores for OSU. UM also needs to open the passing attack against OSU and not be overly conservative. I do not have 100% faith in Carr in doing that but I am hoping he does. Unfortantely Carr often plays not to lose.
Scott4USC said:
i think las vegas did that when they released the opening line with michigan being favored. i dont think anyone is doubting michigan is better. unfortunately, that means nothing on saturday.
do you know how many times ohio state has gone into this game playing for a rose bowl berth and/or undefeated season, had better personnel than michigan (those cooper teams were loaded with blue-chippers everywhere) .......... and lost the game?
all the statistical analysis would have pointed to osu those years. all the personnel matchups favored osu. and michigan would beat em outright.
Let me get this straight Scott, you make you largest bet of the season on a huge rivaly game and you're going to a Clippers game instead of watching the 2nd half?!?!?!?!?!?!?
btw, GOOD LUCK ON YOUR PLAY! Here in my hotel room in Cbus now and can't wait for kickoff.
btw, GOOD LUCK ON YOUR PLAY! Here in my hotel room in Cbus now and can't wait for kickoff.
CWood97
Hopefully both of us will be smiling tom.
I have a lot of faith in UM winning tom. My friend called last night and got box seats to the Clipper game. I sorta don't want to go but how can I pass up free box seats. So I will be able to watch 1h here at the house and then I have small hand held color tv that I could bring. Luckily its on ABC I think. This could pose a problem for me betting on Wisconsin which I wanted to do if UM won.
GO BLUE!!!!!!!!!
gman2
Everything you said is true and solid reasons for me to be cautious. That is exactly why I did not bet my account or even half my account on UM. If UM had an experienced QB and little better defense, I prob. would have bet substantially more at -3.
Remember, I only get screwed if Michigan wins by 1 or 2pts. So if UM wins this game, I likely won't lose any money. In my handicapping analysis, no way Michigan should lose this game. If they do, all blame goes to CAR. When I say OSU is an inferior opponent, I do not mean Michigan is slightly better. Michigan is a lot better team.
Michigan wins 31-13!
Hopefully both of us will be smiling tom.
I have a lot of faith in UM winning tom. My friend called last night and got box seats to the Clipper game. I sorta don't want to go but how can I pass up free box seats. So I will be able to watch 1h here at the house and then I have small hand held color tv that I could bring. Luckily its on ABC I think. This could pose a problem for me betting on Wisconsin which I wanted to do if UM won. GO BLUE!!!!!!!!!
gman2
Everything you said is true and solid reasons for me to be cautious. That is exactly why I did not bet my account or even half my account on UM. If UM had an experienced QB and little better defense, I prob. would have bet substantially more at -3.
Remember, I only get screwed if Michigan wins by 1 or 2pts. So if UM wins this game, I likely won't lose any money. In my handicapping analysis, no way Michigan should lose this game. If they do, all blame goes to CAR. When I say OSU is an inferior opponent, I do not mean Michigan is slightly better. Michigan is a lot better team.
Michigan wins 31-13!
I really think Michigan comes to play today---BUT gonna wait until gametime because I believe the wether could be the great equalizer today. My boss is at the game gonna ring his c-phone JUST before game time. Been raining in the Buckeye State pretty good the last couple of days.
Take care
Bucky
Take care
Bucky
So far the game is going exactly as I capped it. OSU cannot matchup talent wise and UM 2nd and 3rd WR's cannot be covered by OSU's 2nd and 3rd DB's.
SCREW YOU CAR for rushing 3 men on 3rd and 12. What an idiot. That said, how does OSU WR get passed everyone on a 3man UM rush? Not a disciplined team. Should be 14-0 but I will take 14-7.
Still a lot of game left but looking good for all UM backers!
SCREW YOU CAR for rushing 3 men on 3rd and 12. What an idiot. That said, how does OSU WR get passed everyone on a 3man UM rush? Not a disciplined team. Should be 14-0 but I will take 14-7.
Still a lot of game left but looking good for all UM backers!
osu behemoths on the offensive line just bulldozing the inferior michigan D-line. if a footbal field was 150 yards, osu would have 150 yd scoring drives. michigan with no answer for the explosiveness of osu's O
What was that bit about how OSU could not sustain a drive against the great UM defense? I believe that one was 99 yards with no real big plays.
Fcuk. why the hell at 3rd 1 an4th a nd 1 from the 1, did they throw?
Smashing Michigan at the line and getting cute down low.
Smashing Michigan at the line and getting cute down low.
I think Kosar and Gman should wait till the 2nd half before thinking Ohio State wins this one. . . Blue will be a different team in the 2nd half as they have been all year long (almost all year long)
Who said anything about OSU winning this one? I'm pretty sure it was ScottUSC telling everybody about how it's going 'just like he predicted'. Hopefully they can hang in there.
Sarcasm does not work on the Radio and internet forums :moon: LMAO..............
Nickel...........
I think the vegetable and salad tossing going on here is in reference to Scotts chest pounding?
This is a good game! :clap:
GL to all!
Franky
Nickel...........
I think the vegetable and salad tossing going on here is in reference to Scotts chest pounding?
This is a good game! :clap:
GL to all!
Franky
My bad. . . that's what I get for reading half the posts
But I still think Michigan comes out and takes this game back. . . laying 3 for the second half isn't bad value at all IMO
But I still think Michigan comes out and takes this game back. . . laying 3 for the second half isn't bad value at all IMO
