Ever notice with these Bush lickers who called Clinton a liar for eight years now believe he is honest since it fits their agenda? Ya just can't make stuff like this up.
Top 10 reasons I don't believe the official 9/11 story
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Ever notice with these Bush lickers who called Clinton a liar for eight years now believe he is honest since it fits their agenda? Ya just can't make stuff like this up.
You can believe what you want to believe. I know what I saw on TV and I know people in New York City who have been to ground zero several times. All I can say is that a lot of people died and to say it didn't happen or that the US did it is a disgrace to everyone who died.
Uh, I never said it didn't happen. Please explain to me how trying to find out what REALLY happened that day, and who REALLY murdered all those innocent people is a disgrace to them?
I say asking questions and trying to bring the TRUE murderers to task actually honors them more than not.
And every body who sits there and doesn't ask questions to get to the bottom of this is a disgrace to those that died. I guess all those families that are also questioning this are all a disgrace to their loved ones?
How dare these people question this.
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Not a Bush licker at all, actually I am just trying to get a feel for those that think our government did this to ourselves. The vast majority of all of you who have said our government was responsable or even questioned the role we may have played are the same ones that constantly harpe on Bush and in general post pro Democratic views. While there is absolutly nothing wrong with independent political views, if it is true that our government is responsable for this then the Democrates have to be covering up just as much as W himself. :shrug:
And agent I probably can not answer any of your questions. Even if I were to find as much information as I could it still could not prove to your satisfaction. I do not know why some of those things did or did not happen, if indeed they did or did not happen at all. What I do know is there are and were people who are much smarter than me, and yes even smarter than you that have poured through this information and the only place we see this consperiacy stuff is in blogs and utube. When CNN breaks this story or any reliable source shows undeniable facts then maybe any of this is arguable. I am sure none of this meets your expectations put it will be hard to ever do that because me or anyone else can not prove something that didnt happen. GL
Now see, here we are having a nice, civil conversation. What's wrong with that?
I pretty well agree with everything you said in the above post, with the exception of what I put in bold.
One thing you need to realize is people have NOT poured through the information, and an investigation was NOT done. Cause GW stonewalled every fking attempt there was! They shipped off all the steel ASAP, vetoed funding, etc, etc.
As for CNN being a reputable source, I find another flaw in that. I believe things outside of what my boob tube spoon feeds my brain, and I tend to believe the gov't controls the media among other things. I don't look to see CNN talking about this any time soon.
But to say the only place you see conspiracy talk is Youtube and BS blogs is laughable. Take a look at what Sponge just posted to start.
A. Who cares what the democrats do? Why is this a democrat republican argument now? The democrats won't say anything because they know it would be used against them like you see anytime someone steps up and says something. The democrats are basically door mats when it comes to something like this. CNN? What can they say? Niitwit Neocon radio and Fox news will within a second call the dogs on their sponsors and then the collections of clowns who actually believes what these stations say will follow suit and stop buying from them. So its not worth the risk. Nobody has ever lost money under estimating the stupidity of the American public. The CNN's of the world won't this time either. All i know is that when you get warned on Aug "6th" in a memo and then a month later your country is attacked and your president say's he thought it was a pilots error, something is very wrong.
You ask what it has to do with Dems/Rep and then say Dems are powerless to speak out because the Reps will use it against them. You then say that it is the nitwit Neocon news that keeps the likes of CNN from running wih this story:mj07: Your right about one thing though sponge it is not a Dem/Rep issue for you, just a Rep. one. I am on the record as saying I do not believe for one second that a republican or democratic president would or could orchestrate such and event. If however you want to believe this can take place then you must accept that the democrates are covering up just as much as the republicans. What is your stance sponge? Did our government do this? Was Bush the ring leader? Were Dems in on it as well? Enough of all these hypothetical questions, lets put our cards on the table and share what we really think!
Well i think Mr Mel has come a lot closer to the truth than the currrent administration.
I also find it hilarious that you Bush lickers accuse everyone with a different opinion a democrat or liberal. Its not my fault i can spot a scam when it is right in front of me. You think after outing a CIA agent, trying to sell our ports, and a list i can go on an on and on and on, it might wake a few of you dopes up. You have one guy in here still defending the economy:mj07: No matter what anyone says he still tells us how its booming. Now we have the bankers being bailed out with my money. Why is it that you so called phony conservative love the free market system when it comes to profit but when it comes to bailing out banks, airlines, the auto industry you want a socialist gov't? But then when it comes to healthcare for our very own people it becomes a bad thing? 30 billion of our money now pissed away to careless banks but once again this is okay but god forbid letting everyone have universal healthcare. Pathetic.
About what I figured. You can not answer some very easy questions I have but can go on a tirade about Republicans. If you want to know why most people will not discuss this agent that feel differently than you it is because people like sponge. Claims it is not about the parties and post the above. How about you mel how would you straight forwardly answer the questions sponge refuses to?
How the heck do i answer your questions and not sound bias? The republicans were in charge. If the Dems were in charge i would say the same things. I have openly stated that i have voted for my Republican senator numerous times. I have said that the Dems ought to throw out Reid and Pelosi and put someone in those spot with some balls. Now give me your questions and i will answer them as straight as i can.
While you are at it, perhaps you can explain this picture for me? Half in, half out? can I get a damage report? Let?s see? the plane appears to be fine ? same goes for the tower. Notice how there?s no hole in the tower between the engines and the fuselage. This picture is representative of a pixel crash, not a plane crash.:shrug:
:shrug: Honestly you have mer lost here!
Me to!! Actually Craiger was me,forgot to change username,but honestly Mel,your streching and making no sense here,retrace your steps bro.!!
1) Do you believe that George Bush directly ordered the attack and or knew it was going to take place and did nothing about it?
2) If no to #1 do you believe it was a Terrorist attack undertaken by muslim extremist?
3) If you believe our government was involved do you believe any Democrats had knowledge of the attack and have thus covered it up?
I will start and show how easy it is:
1) No
2) Yes
3) N/A
Irrelevant. Please don't turn this into a Rep/Dem argument. Everyone knows Clinton had his shots at OBL and didn't take them. He was a valuable asset to the CIA.
We all know Georgy W couldn't plan and execute a sentence, let alone this, although he surely knew of much of it. I mean every policy to come out of his office since has been based on that day and Terror Alert Orange, Patriot Act, etc.
He had a plan to invade Iraq no matter what, remember WMD??????????????????:shrug:
What a fking sham, and America doesn't have the brains nor the balls to do anything about it. People lose their mind if their cable goes out or they can't get that front row spot at Wal Mart, meanwhile our Gov't has killed untold Iraqi's, 4,000 soldiers and wasted 500 BILLION dollars invading a foreign country all based on LIES.
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These questions can't be answered yes or no. Sorry. Since i am forced to i will do it your silly way
1. No
2. No
3. maybe
sorry you see these questions as Irrelevant, but I think most reasonable people would agree they are very simple straight forward questions that can be answered yes or no. At some point you have to drop the hypotheticals, coulda's, woulda's, maybe's, and what if's and tell people what you believe. This is obviously something that is hard for some of you to do. Me and you may not agree but you know exactly where I stand. I am not trying to turn this into party thing, but if you are trying to tell me a majority of the conspericy theorist are not anti Bush/Republican then I guess there is no more discussion. I dont guess the Clinton fiasco was politically motivated:shrug: Regardless I will state again.
1) No our government did not order the attack or know in advance and allow it to happen.
2) Yes it was an Attack by Muslim Extremist.
3) No I do not believe democrates or republicans would do this and most definantly would not cover up for the opposing party.
1) No our government did not order the attack or know in advance and allow it to happen.
2) Yes it was an Attack by Muslim Extremist.
3) No I do not believe democrates or republicans would do this and most definantly would not cover up for the opposing party.
