Trev Alberts 5 most overrated teams....

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I think Trev Alberts nailed it with his list of the 5 most overrated teams for this season. I can't disagree with any of them.

1) Miami - way too many ? marks

2) Tennessee - just flat out overrated.

3) Georgia - early suspensions and key loses to the NFL will cause them to lose to Boise State early in the season.

4) Notre Dame - will stop beating themselves but don't expect them to win many either. Alberts says you should not be surprised with a 5 win season. Looking at their schedule, I have a hard time disagreeing. I think they are better than a 5 win team but the schedule is brutal.

5) Oklahoma - will lose a minimum of 3 games.
 

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How can the Irish be overrated? They're rated like 40th in preseason. I think you have to be RATED in order to be overrated. Trev Alberts is an absolute dipshit. Talk about overrated - He was one of the WORST draft picks in history.

Trev continually bashes ND for his own hidden agenda. One thing he can do for us Irish fans is actually pronouncing Notre Dame correctly. What a clown.
 

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I have to agree with DD. I think Trev nailed the other 4, especially Tennessee. But how can Notre Dame be overrated?
 

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I have my doubts about Notre Dame, but I agree with D.D. and Auburn. I am also not so sure about Oklahoma. They beat Texas like they own them and everyone else they should be favored.

I saw the piece and Trev does seem like he has an ax to grind. It's got to be killing him to see the state of Nebraska football. ...I do agree that he seems to have an agenda against Notre Dame. Maybe, it's you guys being on NBC.
 

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trev is a ****wad!! The next night he had a piece about the 5 biggest non-conference games of the year or something to that affect.....and of course, ND@Washington was on his list....and what did he say......he said both teams are bad and this is a big game in name only....wtf is that....then why is it on your list you moron....it was on his list because he wanted to take another shot at ND!! I think they are kicking ND while they can......I really think they all believe deep down that this dog will be back up and they don't like it one bit even though they'll say outwardly it is good for college FB when ND is good and in the mix. Trev Alberts :142hump: Chris Fowler what a crew....one dumb husker and one pussy!! Only guy worth a phuck on that crew is kirk H.!! And don't get me started on Mark M. :cursin:
 

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I think Trev Alberts is trying to say ND is over-rated based on the hype created about Weis. There is a lot of hype about Weis and Trev thinks ND will be lucky to go 500. The hype about Weis suggests ND will be way above 500. Look at Coug LJ post as an example.

Alberts never said or implied ND is over-rated because people think ND will win NC or go to BCS bowl game. Alberts is not talking about the "smart/die hard ND fans.

I don't think Alberts has any agenda against ND.

Funny thing about this list is he announced it in the UGA locker room. Before the show aired, the HC of UGA (Richt) walked in and asked Trev if he has UGA as under-rated and Trev said he smiled and said, "no coach, I have your team on my list of over-rated teams"

Thought that was pretty funny and showed me alot about Trev. Remember, Trev was huge UGA supporter 2 years ago.



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I agree with you ND will be back and Kirk is also my favorite gameday analysis.

But how could I go against Lee Corso who I think was the only one who picked USC over OU in OB. :)
 

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Herbstreit is the worst of all of them. He picked Auburn to lose to LSU,Tennessee, Georgia, and Tennessee again in SEC championship game. He also picked OU to beat USC.

He was the main one, along with Corso, who ranted and raved about Oklahoma being the best team to play USC for the BCS championship (nice call, btw). Then they still said that the BCS worked even after USC beat OU like a drum.

What does it take to be a gameday analyst for ESPN anyway? A terrible record? These guys would get laughed off MJ's as handicappers.

Didn't Corso's picks get so bad a couple of year's ago that he actually became a curse on whatever team he picked?

Corso was in Auburn for a charity golf tournament back in May and he spoke about how he thought Auburn was the best team all along. The local press called him out on it pretty quick:

"I saw all four top teams in the nation twice," said Corso, an ESPN analyst who spoke Thursday night at the annual Jimmy Rane Charity Golf Tournament banquet. "I said on the air that USC should play Auburn and Oklahoma should play Utah. I said that before the game because I thought Auburn deserved to be there. I still say that."

Corso said he believes Auburn's second-half struggle against Tennessee in the Southeastern Conference Championship Game was costly. The Tigers led 21-7 at halftime, but Tennessee rallied to tie before falling 38-28.

"Auburn lost a lot of votes in the second half against Tennessee because they didn't stop Tennessee," Corso said. "I said they lost a lot of votes - not mine, but a lot. They needed to win that game convincingly and they didn't. They lost a lot of prestige in the second half of the Tennessee game. People looked at that. A guy like me that saw them beat Georgia and win some of those other games, I still thought they should have played USC."

On an ESPN.com chat after the SEC Championship Game, Corso didn't say it quite that way.

"In my opinion, from what I saw, Auburn was not the second-best team in the nation after Saturday," Corso wrote in response to a question. "I said they were the best team over Oklahoma before Saturday."

So much for integrity.
 

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Their job are to express their opinion and explain why they feel a certain way. They dosn't get paid to pick winners. They are not handicappers although I like it that they are predicting the outcome on more games on the show. I think Kirks comments are very insightful. FYI, people on wall street get paid 6 figures and they often make wrong predictions!

He was the main one, along with Corso, who ranted and raved about Oklahoma being the best team to play USC for the BCS championship (nice call, btw). Then they still said that the BCS worked even after USC beat OU like a drum.

Who is to say with confidence Auburn would not have been smoked? It is not like Auburn dominated V-Tech in their bowl game to make a convincing argument.


Corso was in Auburn for a charity golf tournament back in May and he spoke about how he thought Auburn was the best team all along. The local press called him out on it pretty quick:

I dunno where Corse said AU was the best team all along.

"I saw all four top teams in the nation twice," said Corso, an ESPN analyst who spoke Thursday night at the annual Jimmy Rane Charity Golf Tournament banquet. "I said on the air that USC should play Auburn and Oklahoma should play Utah. I said that before the game because I thought Auburn deserved to be there. I still say that."

AU deserved to be in OB and play USC. That is what he said. Never said AU is best team in country.

Corso said he believes Auburn's second-half struggle against Tennessee in the Southeastern Conference Championship Game was costly. The Tigers led 21-7 at halftime, but Tennessee rallied to tie before falling 38-28.

"Auburn lost a lot of votes in the second half against Tennessee because they didn't stop Tennessee," Corso said. "I said they lost a lot of votes - not mine, but a lot. They needed to win that game convincingly and they didn't. They lost a lot of prestige in the second half of the Tennessee game. People looked at that. A guy like me that saw them beat Georgia and win some of those other games, I still thought they should have played USC."

Corso trying to explain why "most" people backed OU and not AU. He still says he would still back Auburn to be the opponent for USC. Never said AU is best team in country.

On an ESPN.com chat after the SEC Championship Game, Corso didn't say it quite that way.

"In my opinion, from what I saw, Auburn was not the second-best team in the nation after Saturday," Corso wrote in response to a question. "I said they were the best team over Oklahoma before Saturday."

Here is where you accuse him of flip flop. But here my question. Was the Big 12 championship game after the SEC championship game? Does somebody have the right to change their opinion? As a handicapper, do you ever look at the lines and team A jumps out at you and you know you are gonna bet them and then after studying it more in detail you start falling in love with team B? Maybe someone else who supported OU made a strong argument for Corso or brought up stats (like AU's OOC) that swayed Corso to believe in OU more. Nothing wrong with changing your mind.

These guys are asked to give their opinion each and every day even if they have not made up their mind. Hell, I am sure at the beginning of the year they didn't think USC was even a top 3 team when they were struggling with new OL, WR, DB's, FB etc.

So much for integrity.

IMO, I don't think Corso did anything wrong. If AU dominated TN and OU struggled in Big 12 championship, then maybe I would question Corso's integrity. I would have started to go on AU's side. OU dominated their championship game, while AU didn't. Which team would you pick to go to BCS NC? Both teams clearly are deserving and both teams have to be critiqued on everything especially performance on last game of year.

IMO, the deciding factor is how much easier AU's "schedule" was vs OU's week in week out. No contest. Therefore, OU deserved to go because both teams ran the table and OU dominated at the end of the year and have been a more dominant program in recent years. They earned it.

Lets not forget AU lost to USC 2 previous years (i know has nothing to do with last years AU team) but AU has shown nothing in the last how many years against a strong opponent "outside" the SEC. Creampuff OOC and they lose when faced against elite competition in OOC even at home against USC with brand new QB. That is the problem with the SEC. They basically only play each other and give an illusion on how strong they are with beefed up records accumulated in OOC play. SEC as a conf. is not tested in OOC play and the facts support that argument! When tested against BCS competition the last 5+ years, I believe SEC is barely 500 as a conf. Not dominating at all when "many" people claim this conf. to being vastly superior. :rolleyes:
 

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Scott,

Trev is a jackass. He does have an agenda against ND. You fail to realize it because you're not an Irish fan. Go to any ND website and you will see the hatred of my domer fans have for ESPN for they way they covered the ND firing of Willingham. Especially, the likes of May and Alberts.

Being overrated... You HAVE to BE RATED in order to be considered overrated. No publication has the Irish ranked in the top 25. NOBODY! Who is stating they're going to win more than 6 games (They will in my opinion). He mentions this because the Irish bring ratings! That is the only reason. Plus, that ass clown is jealous about ND exposure and NBC deal.
 

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Scott, I never said Corso did anything wrong. But he did flip flop on Auburn/Oklahoma issue, and for him to come and speak at a charity golf tournament in Auburn and act like he didn't, shows a lack of integrity in my opinion.

The SEC has the best BCS record of any conference.
(repeat for emphasis)
The SEC has the best BCS record of any conference.

So please stop trying to pick and choose your time frame and records to try and prove otherwise.
 

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The SEC has the best BCS record of any conference.
(repeat for emphasis)
The SEC has the best BCS record of any conference.

So please stop trying to pick and choose your time frame and records to try and prove otherwise.

Exactly.

By the way, AU. Who WILL win the SEC West this season in your opinion??

Cie:weed:
 

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Auburn.

That is just my biased opinion though. LSU has talent and depth, but they also have a much tougher schedule than Auburn. That is mainly what I am basing my prediction on. I also think that Auburn and LSU will both have dominant defenses in 2005, and the winner of that game will be whichever team solves the QB issue. I put that as my signature because everyone here in B'ham is predicting LSU to run away with the West, and I just think they are discounting Auburn's returning talent.

I can't wait for Oct. 22nd. Should be a classic!

P.S. You guys better take care of business against Arizona State, or Scott will have a field day.
 

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Trev may or may not have an agenda. I am not a ND fan so I admit I don't hear everything he says about ND. But I think the whole country has a beef with these CFB analysts (at least 1). Why? Because you can't please everybody. But that is what is great about CFB. The passion and excitement fans have with their teams.

I think Trev has an argument with ND. There is a $hit load of hype with Weis and many ND fans and many CFB fans expect ND to have a winning record and play well. Weis has been very confident and even talking trash about USC. That is good for ND but that creates a lot of hype. Nobody is predicting BCS bowl game for ND but Trev thinks ND will be under 500. So that qualifies being over-rated. Does it qualify to make a top 5 list? Probably not but ND is the #1 traditional team in college football. You gotta talk about them!


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I don't have the exact # but the SEC has something like a 500 record against BCS competition. That is "not" something to brag about if you want to claim the SEC as a superior conference. I don't care about wins against each other and I certainly don't care about wins against weak OOC competition. I also look down upon the SEC not traveling more. A good example is Georgia. I "think" Georgia has played ZERO OOC games outside their state. Something like that.

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Say it with me Scooter:

The SEC has the best BCS record of any conference.
(repeat for emphasis)
The SEC has the best BCS record of any conference.
 

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UGA doesn't have to travel you dork. No one in the SEC has to travel anywhere. Here's why:

Tenn seats 104,079
UF seats 90,010
UGA seats 92,014
AU seats 86,063
LSU seats 91,600
UA seats 83,818
USC (South Carolina) seats 80,250

SEC teams don't have to travel to find a decent team to play outside the conference. We play quality games against teams in our conference, and we make a lot of money at the gate when we do. If someone wants to play UGA, they have to come to Athens because UGA would lose money to play on the road. It's a money issue.

Sorry you guys(USC) can't sellout any home games because you play in a weak conference where you have no decent competition and only a handful of people care about football anyway.
 

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Let me break it down for you Scott, since I'm sure you'll say I'm wrong. I'll use Boise State game as an example:

Bronco Stadium -- 30,000 seats * $30 tickets = $900,000

Sanford Stadium -- 92,014 seats * $30 tickets = $2,760,420

Not to mention the millions of dollars in sales to local vendors and businesses.

Now reply back and tell me how I'm wrong.
 

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It's a money issue UGA wont travel outside of Georgia? I thought they were just pussys. Thanks for clearing that up.
 

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No problem flapjack. I can also clear up how to correctly spell pussies. Who says people with GED's can't contribute to society?

Georgia has won its last 3 bowl games outside of Athens against the likes of Florida State, Wisconsin, and Purdue. Aren't those BCS schools?

Their last 2 non-bowl OOC games outside Georgia had the following results:
UGA 37
Virginia 14

UGA 30
Clemson 0

Also, in the past 3 years, they have beaten UT in Knoxville, UF in Jacksonville, AU in Jordan-Hare, Clemson in SC, UA in Tuscaloosa, and South Carolina on the road. What "non-pussy" team can boast those types of stats?
 
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"Their last 2 non-bowl OOC games outside Georgia had the following results:
UGA 37
Virginia 14"

The last time UGA played at Virginia was 1926. Is this the recent OCC non-bowl game you are talking about? Wow. Those 1926 Bulldogs were quite the road warriors.

As far as beating those conference teams on the road - over 3 years I would say that if you are a strong team facing other strong teams in your conference year after year, you are going to get SOME road wins - for example they played 3 sub-par UF 3 times in Jacksonville in 3 years, lost twice, but did manage to beat a bad UF team last year. I also have a tough time believing beating South Carolina on the road qualifies as a great win in the annuals of UGA football. Maybe a great win for UAB who whipped SC 42-10 at South Carolina in '03, but not for UGA.

Refusal to play anybody outside of your conference has repercussions - as someone with the name "AU2001" should be painfully aware of. You reap what you sow.
 

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Two teams that will be overrated due to schedules that are laughable are Cal and Texas Tech, as both of these teams play terrible out of league games. Trev Alberts is the same guy that thought he should get the Nebraska Head Coaching job after they canned Solich even though he had no coaching experience. I can't buy Tenn, Miami or Okie being over hyped, Vols are loaded and will have a sweet offense with nice balance to it but they will have a tough time coming out of the back to back on the road grinder of Fla and LSU. Miami's defense is scary and if they can get even average play out of their offense they should roll with only two questionable road games of VT and Clemson. Oklahoma's schedule sets up nice with a very weak road slate other than Texas, I would not be surprised if they ran the table. Georgia always has quality athletes but they did lose a boatload of talent. If Weiss win's 7 games at ND then the season would be a success in my opinion.
 
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