tx in game thread
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gman2 said:
Why can't that offense produce in big games? You will NEVER see TT do anything special with that offense. It won't work beause it is a gimmick pass happy offense. Might work well in high school but won't get the job done in div. 1a. Does TT play div. 1a opponents for OOC?
Scott4USC said:
You could say the same thing for other PAC schools offense as well, Cal for one.
kneifl
gman2 said:
:mj07:
I knew you were going to bring that up. #1 Cal did not want to be there and didn't deserve to be at that bowl. #2 CAL was an injury depleted team at the end of the season. Look who played for CAL against USC and who played against TT. Congrats to TT beating a team who was injured badly and didn't want to be there. :clap:
CAL when healthy held USC below their averages @USC and was 10 yards away from pulling the upset to the #1 team in the country. That is the kind of CAL team you got when they were healthy and motivated. If you are not motivated, TT offense is prob. the last offense you want to prepare and see in a bowl game. I'll give TT that.
scott:
i think you're confusing "gimmick offense" with "one-dimensional" offense. not trying to get into semantics here, but they're not the same. texas tech gets pounded in big games because they are not a physical team. their offense is very sophisticated in terms of the routes they run and the # of guys they send out on passes. but you dont see a lot of crazy trick plays from them. they have a philosophy and they stick to it. problem is, that philosophy doesnt handle physical teams well.
i think you're confusing "gimmick offense" with "one-dimensional" offense. not trying to get into semantics here, but they're not the same. texas tech gets pounded in big games because they are not a physical team. their offense is very sophisticated in terms of the routes they run and the # of guys they send out on passes. but you dont see a lot of crazy trick plays from them. they have a philosophy and they stick to it. problem is, that philosophy doesnt handle physical teams well.
kneifl said:
How can you say that for other Pac 10 offenses?
CAL this year lost their #1 QB from last year, #1 QB for this year and was replacing boat load of players from last year. Complete rebuilding year for CAL this season except at RB and OL.
Scott4USC said:
I seem to remember it dismantled your Pac10 Cal Bears last year. The same team you said deserved to be in the Rose Bowl instead of Texas.
You're a joke.
gman2 said:
Isn't that a gimmick offense? PASS PASS PASS and not being phyiscal and one dimensional. There is no definition to what a gimmick offense is. IMO I think the TT offense is. But I guess you could argue they run complex passing routes but I have NEVER seen a team have great success with that style of offense. This would have been an easy year for TT to win the big 12 and they came up short.
Felonious Monk said:
Look above. I put that argument to rest!
Scott4USC said:
maybe not, but there's certainly a definition for the word 'gimmick'. and that involves trickery and deception. neither of which texas tech uses week in and week out.
they line 5 guys up wide.
run a lot of crossing patterns.
and have guys running routes at every level.
it's nothing tricky. it's just an overload of passing.
again, this is more semantics.
but one-dimensional is a far better word to describe the raiders imo.
Scott4USC said:
Always an excuse no matter what. Even you have to be realizing this is your MO.
I am sure you have at least 20 prepared IF Texas were to beat your Trojans on Jan 4th.
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gman2 said:
Ok I see your point. I do realize they have a complex passing attack. And they don't rely on trickey as you stated.
Maybe I am seeing it as gimmick in that it is pass pass pass and for how many years has TT been pumped up and then fell flat in big games. TT playing weak a$$ OOC schedule just fuels the ammo against TT. Completely inflates their stats and the Big 12 has not been great either last few years.
Maybe you are right in that I should say one-dimensional non physical offense instead of gimmick offense.
Good posts gman2!
3 Seconds said:
I meant that TT just needed to win 1 game (texas) to win the big 12. The big 12 is very bad this year so it would have been an easy year for TT to win it. They couldn't challenge Texas. Of all years, this was TT best chance at winning the Big 12. Agree? TT had the pieces in place on both sides of ball to make serious run. Then again, that TT team lost to Oklahoma St. who is a VERY $HITTY team. Maybe my post was :mj10:
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Scott4USC said:
This I agree with, but TT just is not in UT's class. It would have been a minor miracle for them to win the Big 12 over UT this year.
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Just wanted to let you know that I never said or implied Texas wasn't a quality team or didn't deserve to play in the BCS NC. You should be proud of your team. If USC is fortunate enough to play Texas in Rose Bowl and win, I'll be very happy knowing USC beat a quality opponent. Just like last year against OU. When I say Texas D isn't great, that doesn't mean I think they suck. When I say Texas has not been tested all year, that doesn't mean I think they suck.
I think Texas is a very good team and if they beat USC they are a great team. (duh) But I don't think they are currently a great team on USC standards. They deserve their #2 ranking and it doesn't mean they can't beat USC but they have not proven themselves on that level. BTW, I still plan on hedging my USC futures bet so I am not even close to 100% confident USC will beat Texas. I do have a lot of respect for your team. You might just see by how much I hedge! Both teams still have 1 game left and lets see how each rebound off 2 close wins.
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Just wanted to let you know that I never said or implied Texas wasn't a quality team or didn't deserve to play in the BCS NC. You should be proud of your team. If USC is fortunate enough to play Texas in Rose Bowl and win, I'll be very happy knowing USC beat a quality opponent. Just like last year against OU. When I say Texas D isn't great, that doesn't mean I think they suck. When I say Texas has not been tested all year, that doesn't mean I think they suck.
I think Texas is a very good team and if they beat USC they are a great team. (duh) But I don't think they are currently a great team on USC standards. They deserve their #2 ranking and it doesn't mean they can't beat USC but they have not proven themselves on that level. BTW, I still plan on hedging my USC futures bet so I am not even close to 100% confident USC will beat Texas. I do have a lot of respect for your team. You might just see by how much I hedge! Both teams still have 1 game left and lets see how each rebound off 2 close wins.
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Vince Young got exposed today. He simply doesn't have any accuracy with his pass. Once again, an awesome athlete playing the QB position.
DIRTY Diapers said:
Yep. He floats the long ball which will not be good against a fast defense like USC. They will get picked off.
Against weak defenses where WR's are wide open or no containment from the front 7, these QB's look like Heisman Contenders. They really aren't great QB's. Give me a Matt Leinart or Brady Quinn anyday!
