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Age 55 plus, you still collect as usual
45-55 -- collect at 66
35-44 -- collect at 67
25-34 -- collect at 68
24 down -- collect at 69

(face it we live long than in 1950)

End unemployment benefits at 52 weeks (people get a job. we have all had to work at something we didn't like at one time or another)

Close the dept. of education. (they are a massive failure as education quality has steadily declined every year this dept. has been open)

Gut food stamps. I am sick and tired of subsidizing people's cable/satellite bills, cell phones, cigarettes, and liquor as they buy junk food with their food stamps. I will gladly donate to charities that help their kids eat well or donate to school breakfast and lunch programs at the state level.

Bring our boys home from Iraq and Afghan. Close the borders. Drill our own oil. Spend research money on energy and quit subsidizing professors to sit around and do dumb sociological "research" that consists of passing surveys to students and writing reports on them.

Get tough with unions and pay good teachers good money and fire bad ones. I personally had some really good teachers growing up and many others who should havfe been in another line of work yet they all earned the same. America was not designed to work this way. We reward excellence here. Same with the factory worker. Let the guy who works hard make some good money and they lazy complainer find another line of work. Our products will be much more competitive globally and America's excellence will be rewarded with more good jobs.

The tea party is America's last best hope. The other two parties are failures with cronyism and victimization of the American populace which keeps the man down.

Last but not least -- tax code reform. The guy making tens of milions with the best accountants, attorneys, and lobbiests should pay the same tax rate the guy making 100 or 200K should. Make it reasonable like 25% with no deductions.

America get TOUGH and SELF-RELIANT AGAIN!Geez three generations ago we had people working 80-100 hour weeks (many of us were farmers) just to put food on the table and we were tougher and more sensible than we are now with all the modern conveniences.
 

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:facepalm: :SIB

Why are you one of the geniuses that thinks business as usual is going along great?

Are you one of the "thinkers" that thinks a balanced budget is "extreme"?

:0002 :0002 :facepalm: :facepalm: :nono: :142smilie :142smilie
 

yyz

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--and I've never heard of anyone wanting to pay others repair bills?

Of course I understand your reasoning on taxes--when your paycheck is sign by gov and paid by the tax payer--one tends to be a bit biased-
:popcorn2

Oh, so it's "other peoples' country" that's broke, and not yours?

Hold on to your money real tight, and when it's finally worth about .10 on the dollar........you can still have the cold comfort of knowing you can always blame someone else.

It won't make your situation any better, but what the hell.

This country is done.
 

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What we need is a really good lie. . . like in late February 2009 when BofA said that they were going to have a profitable first quarter. . . when anyone who knew anything knew that was a lie. . . . but the mere fact that they said it caused the market to push up . . . .which meant that BofA holdings got stronger. . . which meant that they in fact were profitable in the first quarter.

That's what we need Monday. . . . something like that
 

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What we need is a really good lie. . . like in late February 2009 when BofA said that they were going to have a profitable first quarter. . . when anyone who knew anything knew that was a lie. . . . but the mere fact that they said it caused the market to push up . . . .which meant that BofA holdings got stronger. . . which meant that they in fact were profitable in the first quarter.

That's what we need Monday. . . . something like that

:0008
 

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What we need is a really good lie. . . like in late February 2009 when BofA said that they were going to have a profitable first quarter. . . when anyone who knew anything knew that was a lie. . . . but the mere fact that they said it caused the market to push up . . . .which meant that BofA holdings got stronger. . . which meant that they in fact were profitable in the first quarter.

That's what we need Monday. . . . something like that



I like the way you think......


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saint

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Medicare and SS reform
Age 55 plus, you still collect as usual
45-55 -- collect at 66
35-44 -- collect at 67
25-34 -- collect at 68
24 down -- collect at 69

(face it we live long than in 1950)

End unemployment benefits at 52 weeks (people get a job. we have all had to work at something we didn't like at one time or another)

Close the dept. of education. (they are a massive failure as education quality has steadily declined every year this dept. has been open)

Gut food stamps. I am sick and tired of subsidizing people's cable/satellite bills, cell phones, cigarettes, and liquor as they buy junk food with their food stamps. I will gladly donate to charities that help their kids eat well or donate to school breakfast and lunch programs at the state level.

Bring our boys home from Iraq and Afghan. Close the borders. Drill our own oil. Spend research money on energy and quit subsidizing professors to sit around and do dumb sociological "research" that consists of passing surveys to students and writing reports on them.

Get tough with unions and pay good teachers good money and fire bad ones. I personally had some really good teachers growing up and many others who should havfe been in another line of work yet they all earned the same. America was not designed to work this way. We reward excellence here. Same with the factory worker. Let the guy who works hard make some good money and they lazy complainer find another line of work. Our products will be much more competitive globally and America's excellence will be rewarded with more good jobs.

The tea party is America's last best hope. The other two parties are failures with cronyism and victimization of the American populace which keeps the man down.

Last but not least -- tax code reform. The guy making tens of milions with the best accountants, attorneys, and lobbiests should pay the same tax rate the guy making 100 or 200K should. Make it reasonable like 25% with no deductions.

America get TOUGH and SELF-RELIANT AGAIN!Geez three generations ago we had people working 80-100 hour weeks (many of us were farmers) just to put food on the table and we were tougher and more sensible than we are now with all the modern conveniences.

:clap:
 

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tomorrow on wall street, its going to be ugly..:facepalm:
 
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gardenweasel

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Kind of like that neon sign that you wear with the holes in the hood?

Nobody likes taxes but the fact is the bush tax cuts should have never happened. Your guy started two wars and cut taxes. What did you have to say about that? Nothing. It's the black guys fault. You are such a sucker doggie. You need to bury your head in a hole. You would cut your small dick off if the GOP told you to.


this is fricking hilarious...people talking about taxes solving the debt problem of a country who`s debt is more than 100% of it`s gdp....:mj07:

the debt ceiling has been raised god knows how many times without a whimper....the tea party finally has the common sense to bring the issue to a head and they get blamed for it?....double :mj07:

and the response of the administration (i use that term loosely) to the s&p action, wagging their finger at a mathematical mis-calculation, is a perfect example of their response to anything...attacking some irrelevant detail while missing the forest......:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: .

like claiming a ?gotcha? because you found a typo in your death sentence........:facepalm: ...arguing the exact angle in which the titanic hit the iceberg while people are in the water clinging to the top of the grand piano....:lol:

OUR DEBT IS MORE THAN 100% OF OUR GDP !!....THAT`S NOT FROM BEING UNDERTAXED .....can everyone get their heads around that?...it`s mind boggling...

.keep taxing employers and see how much higher we can get the unemployment rate to go....we need revenue....more business opportunity...more hiring to expand the tax base...deregulate our energy industry and put people to work...we have the most energy resources in the world...and the most incoherent energy policy...

clueless.... helpless...hopeless....we`re f-cked...
 

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Medicare and SS reform
Age 55 plus, you still collect as usual
45-55 -- collect at 66
35-44 -- collect at 67
25-34 -- collect at 68
24 down -- collect at 69

(face it we live long than in 1950)

End unemployment benefits at 52 weeks (people get a job. we have all had to work at something we didn't like at one time or another)

Close the dept. of education. (they are a massive failure as education quality has steadily declined every year this dept. has been open)

Gut food stamps. I am sick and tired of subsidizing people's cable/satellite bills, cell phones, cigarettes, and liquor as they buy junk food with their food stamps. I will gladly donate to charities that help their kids eat well or donate to school breakfast and lunch programs at the state level.

Bring our boys home from Iraq and Afghan. Close the borders. Drill our own oil. Spend research money on energy and quit subsidizing professors to sit around and do dumb sociological "research" that consists of passing surveys to students and writing reports on them.

Get tough with unions and pay good teachers good money and fire bad ones. I personally had some really good teachers growing up and many others who should havfe been in another line of work yet they all earned the same. America was not designed to work this way. We reward excellence here. Same with the factory worker. Let the guy who works hard make some good money and they lazy complainer find another line of work. Our products will be much more competitive globally and America's excellence will be rewarded with more good jobs.

The tea party is America's last best hope. The other two parties are failures with cronyism and victimization of the American populace which keeps the man down.

Last but not least -- tax code reform. The guy making tens of milions with the best accountants, attorneys, and lobbiests should pay the same tax rate the guy making 100 or 200K should. Make it reasonable like 25% with no deductions.

America get TOUGH and SELF-RELIANT AGAIN!Geez three generations ago we had people working 80-100 hour weeks (many of us were farmers) just to put food on the table and we were tougher and more sensible than we are now with all the modern conveniences.

:0074 post of the year candidate
 

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the debt ceiling has been raised god knows how many times without a whimper....the tea party finally has the common sense to bring the issue to a head and they get blamed for it?....double :mj07:

The only thing admirable about the tea party is that they are giving the establishment the finger.

As for the debt, both parties are responsible. Some more than others but they both did it. At this point spending cuts aren't going to get it done. You need cuts and more revenue and anyone who says otherwise needs their fucking heads examined.
 

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this is fricking hilarious...people talking about taxes solving the debt problem of a country who`s debt is more than 100% of it`s gdp....:mj07:

the debt ceiling has been raised god knows how many times without a whimper....the tea party finally has the common sense to bring the issue to a head and they get blamed for it?....double :mj07:

and the response of the administration (i use that term loosely) to the s&p action, wagging their finger at a mathematical mis-calculation, is a perfect example of their response to anything...attacking some irrelevant detail while missing the forest......:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: .

like claiming a ?gotcha? because you found a typo in your death sentence........:facepalm: ...arguing the exact angle in which the titanic hit the iceberg while people are in the water clinging to the top of the grand piano....:lol:

OUR DEBT IS MORE THAN 100% OF OUR GDP !!....THAT`S NOT FROM BEING UNDERTAXED .....can everyone get their heads around that?...it`s mind boggling...

.keep taxing employers and see how much higher we can get the unemployment rate to go....we need revenue....more business opportunity...more hiring to expand the tax base...deregulate our energy industry and put people to work...we have the most energy resources in the world...and the most incoherent energy policy...

clueless.... helpless...hopeless....we`re f-cked...

It's not about being undertaxed or overtaxed, it's about solving the problem while minimizing the collateral damage. I'm curious how u propose we bridge the multi- trillion gap responsibly without increasing revenue?
 

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this is fricking hilarious...people talking about taxes solving the debt problem of a country who`s debt is more than 100% of it`s gdp....:mj07:

the debt ceiling has been raised god knows how many times without a whimper....the tea party finally has the common sense to bring the issue to a head and they get blamed for it?....double :mj07:

and the response of the administration (i use that term loosely) to the s&p action, wagging their finger at a mathematical mis-calculation, is a perfect example of their response to anything...attacking some irrelevant detail while missing the forest......:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: .

like claiming a ?gotcha? because you found a typo in your death sentence........:facepalm: ...arguing the exact angle in which the titanic hit the iceberg while people are in the water clinging to the top of the grand piano....:lol:

OUR DEBT IS MORE THAN 100% OF OUR GDP !!....THAT`S NOT FROM BEING UNDERTAXED .....can everyone get their heads around that?...it`s mind boggling...

.keep taxing employers and see how much higher we can get the unemployment rate to go....we need revenue....more business opportunity...more hiring to expand the tax base...deregulate our energy industry and put people to work...we have the most energy resources in the world...and the most incoherent energy policy...

clueless.... helpless...hopeless....we`re f-cked...

What line of work you in, wease?
 

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Speaking of lines of work--

Would imagine an accountant who personally thinks people should be paying more taxes --has to really stay on his toes to hide fact from clients. :SIB
 

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It's not about being undertaxed or overtaxed, it's about solving the problem while minimizing the collateral damage. I'm curious how u propose we bridge the multi- trillion gap responsibly without increasing revenue?

why do you think that "increasing revenues" exclusively means taxing people?...because that`s what the media tells everyone....you live in louisiana you`ve seen what government regulation has done to the energy industry down there....start by deregulating the industry,it would create tons of jobs and kick start the econmy...

big business has lots of money invested offshore that isn`t invested in our economy...why?...because they`re getting taxed and regulatrd out the ying yang here...they`d be crazy to come back home...they aren`t in business to lose money...

taxing people to death is akin to opening a new charge card with a high limit to pay the minimum on their other credit cards and continuing the spending spree...and i don`t get that..it`s just kicking the can down the road....we need to make some hard choices....

i was shocked at what i heard alan greenspan say on t.v. yesterday...he said we couldn`t default because we can always print more money....that was a mind boggling statement...what about inflation?..if we followed his thinking,you`d eventually need a wheelbarrow to take enough money to the grocery to buy bread and milk...this guy ran the fed for decades?....no shocker that we`re in the fix we`re in......what about the world deciding to abandon the dollar as the universal international currency?.....you can`t just print money...you can`t just tax people...that`s not putting money into the economy...it`s taking money out of it by devaluing the dollar......

it`s crazy..i`m still trying to figure out why theres no outrage over this administration stripping money out of medicare to put into medicaid(obamacare)...taking money away from citizens(you and your parents) that have been funding the program their entire lives and giving it to people who have basically sat on the sidelines their entire lives........how can anybody with a straight face think that nationalized healthcare would save money?..look at the post office.....
...and why in god`s name did the people that wrote the legislation exempt themselves from it?....
wheres the media on this stuff?...this is insanity...

i`m not rich...not by a long stretch...but i understand that something`s really wrong here and we`re all getting misled and royally f-cked...
 
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