US deaths in Iraq hits 3,900

Jabberwocky

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Might add this since I got you all in a row expressing your opinion you might want to give us some facts on your liberal "General Betrayus"/blogs and media portrayal or your party's leading candidates initial projections on same--I say initial because they ar all doing the flop now ;)

Heres something else that might make your day.:)

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Singled Out

Time magazine chose Russian President Vladimir Putin over General David Petraeus for its person of the year ? but London's Sunday Telegraph has given Petraeus the nod as its person of the year for 2007.

The paper credits Petraeus for leading the U.S. troop surge, calling him a man with a message of hope: "The critics said it couldn't be done, but the vision and determination of General David Petraeus have brought greater security and cause for optimism to the people of Iraq."

The Telegraph says the surge, "has achieved what many feared was impossible. Sectarian killings are down. Al Qaeda is on the run. And the 2 million Iraqis who fled the country are slowly returning."

And it adds: "The reason for picking Petraeus is simple. Iraq, whatever the current crises in Afghanistan and Pakistan, remains the West's biggest foreign policy challenge of this decade, and if he can halt its slide into all-out anarchy, General Petraeus may save more than Iraqi lives."

The only FACT I see here is that the London Telegraph chose Petraeus for their person of the year. Great. Good for them. The rest is Al Qaeda is on the run, some people are coming back, things are getting better. Great.

I don't read liberal blogs, I have interest in the "defeat" of America (but I will remind you that Bush declared victory in this conflict many years ago. I guess that was just more Bush bullshit?)

My only question is, how good does it have to get for us to get the hell out of there? To here you tell the greatest story nevertold, it sounds like things are peachy there. How peachy do they have to be for us to leave?
 

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16 more soldiers sacrificed in December.....OOPS, I mean "ONLY" 16 more -because I've been told violence is declining.Whoppee!!!!
Yup...its peachy allright, So this is how victory in Iraq tastes when A. Q. is on run.
God Bless each and everyone of those "only" 16 more dead soldiers(and their families and friends)
Roc
 

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It could be worse--they could be stationed in New Orleans 17.4 a month ave :shrug:

Nation's bloodiest city:New Orleans


NEW ORLEANS (AP) - The bloodiest city in the country in 2006, reeling from crime in its struggle to recover from Hurricane Katrina, got even worse in 2007.

New Orleans registered 209 homicides last year, a nearly 30 percent increase from the 161 recorded in 2006.

The FBI's rankings for 2007 will not be out until much later in the year, but New Orleans' population is thought to be 295,450, which would mean a rate of about 71 homicides per 100,000 people.

Even the most generous population estimate in 2006 put the number of people in the city that year at 255,000. That meant a real homicide rate of 63.5 per 100,000 residents.

To compare that number with some other notoriously bloody cities, the rate for Gary, Ind., was 48.3 and Detroit's was 47.1.

January 2, 2008
 

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16 more soldiers sacrificed in December.....OOPS, I mean "ONLY" 16 more -because I've been told violence is declining.Whoppee!!!!
Yup...its peachy allright, So this is how victory in Iraq tastes when A. Q. is on run.
God Bless each and everyone of those "only" 16 more dead soldiers(and their families and friends)
Roc

Actually, there were 21 American troops killed in Iraq in December:

December 2007

NAME AGE UNIT HOMETOWN DETAILS
Petty Officer 1st Class Victor W. Jeffries 52 Navy Expeditionary Logistics Support Group Honolulu, Hawaii Died on December 31, 2007 as a result of injuries suffered in a vehicular accident on December 24 in Kuwait.
Capt. Rowdy J. Inman 38 3rd Squadron, 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment Panorama Village, Texas One of two soldiers killed by small-arms fire during dismounted combat operations in Mosul, Iraq, on December 26, 2007
Sgt. Benjamin B. Portell 27 3rd Squadron, 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment Bakersfield, California One of two soldiers killed by small-arms fire during dismounted combat operations in Mosul, Iraq, on December 26, 2007
Sgt. Peter C. Neesley 28 3rd Squadron, 7th Cavalry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division Grosse Pointe Farms, Michigan Died of an undetermined cause in a non-combat environment in Baghdad, Iraq, on December 25, 2007. The circumstances surrounding his death are under investigation.
Sgt. Bryan J. Tutten 33 1st Squadron, 73rd Cavalry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division St. Augustine, Florida Died of wounds suffered when a homemade bomb exploded near his position during combat operations in Balad, Iraq, on December 25, 2007
Pfc. George J. Howell 24 1st Battalion, 87th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 10th Infantry Division Salinas, California Died of wounds suffered when his vehicle was attacked by a homemade bomb in Riyadh, Iraq, on December 21, 2007
1st Lt. Jeremy E. Ray 26 1st Squadron, 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment Houston, Texas Died of wounds suffered when an enemy attacked using a homemade bomb in Kanaan, Iraq, on December 20, 2007
Pfc. Juctin R. P. McDaniel 19 524th Combat Service Support Battalion, 45th Sustainment Brigade, 8th Theater Sustainment Command Andover, New Hampshire Died of injuries sustained from a non-combat related incident in Taji, Iraq, on December 17, 2007. The circumstances surrounding the incident are under investigation.
Sgt. Austin D. Pratt 22 2nd Battalion, 30th Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division (Light Infantry) Cadet, Missouri Died of injuries sustained in an incident that is currently under investigation in Balad, Iraq, on December 15, 2007
Sgt. 1st Class Jonathan A. Lowery 38 3rd Squadron, 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment Houlton, Maine Died of wounds sustained when enemy forces attacked his unit using small-arms fire in Mosul, Iraq, on December 14, 2007
Sgt. Samuel E. Kelsey 24 3rd Battalion, 7th Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division Troup, Texas Died of wounds suffered when a roadside bomb detonated in Tunnis, Iraq, on December 13, 2007
Spc. Brynn J. Naylor 21 2nd Battalion, 12th Infantry Regiment, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 2nd Infantry Division Roswell, New Mexico Died of wounds suffered when enemy forces attacked his unit using small-arms fire in Baghdad, Iraq, on December 13, 2007
Pvt. Daren A. Smith 19 3rd Squadron, 89th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division Helena, Montana Died of wounds sustained from a non-combat related incident in Baghdad, Iraq, on December 13, 2007
Chief Petty Officer Mark T. Carter 27 Navy SEAL Fallbrook, California Died as a result of enemy action while conducting combat operations in Iraq on December 11, 2007
Spc. Johnathan A. Lahmann 21 59th Engineer Company, 20th Engineer Battalion, 36th Engineer Brigade Richmond, Indiana Died of wounds suffered when a homemade bomb struck his vehicle in Bayji, Iraq, on December 10, 2007
Spc. Randy W. Pickering 31 Regimental Support Squadron, 2nd Stryker Cavalry Regiment Bovey, Minnesota Died of injuries sustained in a non-combat related incident in Baghdad, Iraq, on December 9, 2007. The circumstances surrounding the incident are under investigation.
Capt. Adam P. Snyder 26 1st Battalion, 327th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division Fort Pierce, Florida One of three soldiers killed when their vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Bayji, Iraq. Snyder died on December 5, 2007, in Balad, Iraq.
Sgt. Eric J. Hernandez 26 1st Battalion, 327th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division Waldwick, New Jersey One of three soldiers killed when their vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Bayji, Iraq. Hernandez died on December 4, 2007, in Bayji, Iraq.
Pvt. Dewayne L. White 27 1st Battalion, 327th Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 101st Airborne Division Country Club Hills, Illinois One of three soldiers killed when their vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Bayji, Iraq. Whited died on December 4, 2007, in Bayji, Iraq.
Sgt. Kyle Dayton 22 2nd Battalion, 504th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division El Dorado Hills, California Died of injuries suffered from a non-combat related incident in Ashwah, Iraq, on December 3, 2007
Spc. Matthew K. Reece 24 1st Battalion, 504th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team, 82nd Airborne Division Harrison, Arkansas Died of wounds suffered when his vehicle encountered a roadside bomb in Baghdad, Iraq, on December 1, 2007
 

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SMURPHY,
my apologies to the additional five men and women I didnt acknowledge for giving the ultimate sacrifice to continue to keep Iraq free while we all wait for Iraq and the Iraq army to do it for themselves.heh 21 dead isnt that bad -just ask your neighborhood neocon

DTB,
very poor comparison/analogy using New Orleans vs our men and women in our armed forces who are putting their lives on the line in IRAQ. You owe an apology to those that are serving now and have served in the past overseas
If our leader cant show Iraq that we can keep peace and violence to a minimum in our own country why in the World should they trust us to create a solid future for them
excellent analogy to inspire our enemies with.
Your losing debate points by the bucketful here in early 2008 at Madjacks.
Not that you had points banked to lose anyhow.Go back to cleaning your handgun now while your cook up more moonshine will ya
 
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