Scott4USC said:
More meaningless crap. What happened in 1997 under Makovic has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with tonight game.
I noticed you dont pick my posts apart like you do the others....I wonder why....cause they make too much sense maybe.....
USC over Texas (detailed analysis)
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More meaningless crap. What happened in 1997 under Makovic has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with tonight game.
I noticed you dont pick my posts apart like you do the others....I wonder why....cause they make too much sense maybe.....
3 Seconds said:
Of course it is. But all year USC's opponents treated their game against USC as GOY. USC has to battle complacency. (thats why teams do not win 3 straight NC's) In a BCS Bowl, especialy BCS NC game, USC will be sky high and be able to match or excede their opponents intensity. That is a scary thought! :scared USC also was drained from playing like 11 straight weeks in CFB season. FSU caught an injury depleted and tired USC team. Look at how USC responded against UCLA with 2 weeks rest. USC now has 4 weeks rest for Texas and USC bowl practices have been FLAWLESS leading up to this game. USC is hungry and ready. Also healthy!
Of course they do but I hope they use them like Pete Carroll uses those weeks. Texas better not try and run the same offense that got them here. They better have inserted new schemes etc. Iowa, Michigan and OU did not against USC. Maybe Texas will be different. USC defensive players know every play/formation that Texas ran. So if Texas doesn't change anything, USC has slight advantage in knowing what "might" be run. That is how prepared USC is. That is why USC won and dominated 3 straight BCS bowl games.
I said their is small chance Texas can beat USC. Texas can't turn the ball over, USC needs to turn the ball over, Texas needs to win special teams. Since Texas ALWAYS turns the ball over in big games no reason to think they won't against a defense that excels in forcing turnovers. USC doesn't turn the ball over in BCS bowl games. Texas can take advantage with special teams.
Yes they can and I am scared about USC's special teams. But USC fixed their problem against UCLA and USC got a BUNCH of special teams players back for this BCS NC game. Hopefully it helps.
I think I said it was and that Texas might pee in their pants.
USC got back 3 LB's and 1 DB for this game. LB's and DB's play special teams. USC should be ok. I HOPE!
Texas is 2nd best team in the country. USC is #1. I think there is huge margin between the 2. No disrespect to Texas but they are not same level as USC. Read my analysis above and USC will win this game because of style of play. Texas wishes USC would line up across and see who's talent will win out. USC uses their head and will use their talent to try and out scheme you. Texas will NEVER figure out the USC offense. High probability Pete Carroll WILL figure out the Texas offense.
I AGREE! No doubt. But I guarantee you USC has more intensity and more focused preparation for this game against Texas. For first time all year USC will match their opponents intensity etc. HUGE HUGE DEAL! From bowl practices, USC is ready. Doesn't mean USC guaranteed victory, but USC is ready. Big time ready.
USC was sloppy against ND. But that was rivalry and hostile environment. If USC is sloppy against Texas, they deserve to lose. They prob. will lose if they drop 5 wide open passes and give up punt return. Carroll teams are not sloppy often. Maybe 1-2 times a year. Never in BCS bowl games. Last time USC dropped that many passes was in year 1 of Carroll @KSU.
Texas has great team but unfortunately a Pete Carroll lead USC team is lining up across from them. Iowa, Michigan, and OU know what USC brings to the table. Texas soon will find out. USC is an extremely fast, physical and agressive team. Media doesn't stress this but I have for 3 straight years. It is huge disadantage to face USC first time after 4+ weeks. USC takes ALL that talent (which Texas might be able to match) and tries to OUT SCHEME you. Usually it is less talented teams try and out scheme their opponent. USC is the most talented team who also tries to outscheme you. Don't be surprised if the speed of USC overwhelms Texas. I am not saying Texas doesn't have speed, I am saying USC team speed is unreal and you can NEVER gameplan for it unless you have seen it before. The Texas DC thinks he has seen stuff what USC offense does already. WRONG! HUGE HUGE MISTAKE!
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Rcxslam said:
USC starting RB was Dennis. Bush was a NOBODY in that game. Same with Lendale White. Same with TE Dom. Byrd. USC OL was nothing at the time played. Mike Williams was a soph. who I think was making his first start in div. 1a.
Not a dominant OL. A servicable OL who was great pass blocking but poor run blocking. Don't forget huge advantage AU had. First game of year @AU in hot summer against brand new QB. AU still couldn't get it done in the tough SEC!
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Scott loves to post these games that USC put up huge #'s in, lets say the ones they topped 55 or more pts...
Lets look at those games...
Hawaii(94)...........No bowl for you.........I think Hawaii's school for the blind just put up their 42nd pt on the board vs them in a scrimmage
Arkansas(87)........No Bowl for you.........Still had the starters in up 56-10 in the 4th Q....I thought USC pulled those guys like UT does....
UCLA(17)............Gave 38 to NW, but won by 12...........Gave up 35 pts or more pts 5x who cant score on these defensively challenged Pac 10'ers???
Now conversely lets look at those teams UT hung over 55 pts on this season
ULL(84)No Bowl for them...............at least they are higher ranked that Arkansas as the 84th team compared to 87th....oh yeah UT pulled thier starters 2 series into the 3rd Q up 45-3.
Baylor(58)...........No bowl for the Bears...........Hey at least they did beat 2 other bowl teams this year........VY & company pulled after the 3Q up 48-0.
Kansas(40).........Manhandled high scroing Houston........#1 ranked run D in the country @ the time got 66 hung on them & 336 yards against them rushing. VY felt "disrespected" going into this game by KU. Oh yeah starters came out during the 3Q as UT was up 52-0 @ halftime.
Colorado(42).......Held high scoring Clemson to 19.......A team that is fimiliar with UT still got 70 put down on them. How bad was this UT hung 28 on them in back 2 back Q's....again starters out 2 series into the 3rd or UT could have put 90 on the Buffs on this day.
USC has put up huge numbers against seven units that rank 86th or worse nationally. No. 114 Arizona State, No. 113 UCLA, No. 106 Washington State, No. 105 Stanford and No. 102 Hawaii.
UT went up against just three worse than 65th-ranked Baylor.
Lets look at those games...
Hawaii(94)...........No bowl for you.........I think Hawaii's school for the blind just put up their 42nd pt on the board vs them in a scrimmage
Arkansas(87)........No Bowl for you.........Still had the starters in up 56-10 in the 4th Q....I thought USC pulled those guys like UT does....
UCLA(17)............Gave 38 to NW, but won by 12...........Gave up 35 pts or more pts 5x who cant score on these defensively challenged Pac 10'ers???
Now conversely lets look at those teams UT hung over 55 pts on this season
ULL(84)No Bowl for them...............at least they are higher ranked that Arkansas as the 84th team compared to 87th....oh yeah UT pulled thier starters 2 series into the 3rd Q up 45-3.
Baylor(58)...........No bowl for the Bears...........Hey at least they did beat 2 other bowl teams this year........VY & company pulled after the 3Q up 48-0.
Kansas(40).........Manhandled high scroing Houston........#1 ranked run D in the country @ the time got 66 hung on them & 336 yards against them rushing. VY felt "disrespected" going into this game by KU. Oh yeah starters came out during the 3Q as UT was up 52-0 @ halftime.
Colorado(42).......Held high scoring Clemson to 19.......A team that is fimiliar with UT still got 70 put down on them. How bad was this UT hung 28 on them in back 2 back Q's....again starters out 2 series into the 3rd or UT could have put 90 on the Buffs on this day.
USC has put up huge numbers against seven units that rank 86th or worse nationally. No. 114 Arizona State, No. 113 UCLA, No. 106 Washington State, No. 105 Stanford and No. 102 Hawaii.
UT went up against just three worse than 65th-ranked Baylor.
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Oh yeah Scott dont take any of my post in the wrong way, I am not personally trying to go after you. I am just debating you on this game & your views on this game. None of it is personal, I think you are a quality poster & an asset to MJ's!
3 Seconds said:Oh yeah Scott dont take any of my post in the wrong way, I am not personally trying to go after you. I am just debating you on this game & your views on this game. None of it is personal, I think you are a quality poster & an asset to MJ's!
I didn't see anything wrong with your posts especially when you explain your point.
I know you see special teams advantage for Texas and special teams can play big part in any game. Even though USC has Reggie Bush, Texas special teams has the clear advantage in this game. But I have good reason to believe USC fixed their ST's situation. UCLA game was great start.
Whether Texas and their #41 ranked rush defense can stop USC rushing attack will decide whether USC blows out Texas or being a competitive game. If Young can complete 20/30 short passes (thats what Carroll will concede to Young) then Texas has great shot in beating USC.
I do think Special Teams is where UT does have a decieded edge on USC. I also think for UT to win this game they have to make a "game changing" play on special teams, be it a punt block or a huge kick or punt return to either go for 6 or set UT in great position deep in USC terriorty.
As good I think UT's offense is, I know USC is better. I know UT just cant try & out score them, they will lose if they do. UT MUST make a play or two on special teams to win this game. UT MUST have its D step up big time tonight. Do I expect them to hold USC to 21 tonight, of course not, but I am hoping 35 is not out of the question.
Alot of things have to right for UT to win this game & UT does have the talent & ability to make things go right, it wont be easy, but UT most definately has a chance to pull the upset tonight.
I do really wish this game wasnt in So Cal tonight, I think that is a big edge for USC, & honestly a bit unfair for a NC game to played so close to one teams home when it is supposed to be a neutral site, we all know which team will feel at home in this one & it aint the Horns.
As good I think UT's offense is, I know USC is better. I know UT just cant try & out score them, they will lose if they do. UT MUST make a play or two on special teams to win this game. UT MUST have its D step up big time tonight. Do I expect them to hold USC to 21 tonight, of course not, but I am hoping 35 is not out of the question.
Alot of things have to right for UT to win this game & UT does have the talent & ability to make things go right, it wont be easy, but UT most definately has a chance to pull the upset tonight.
I do really wish this game wasnt in So Cal tonight, I think that is a big edge for USC, & honestly a bit unfair for a NC game to played so close to one teams home when it is supposed to be a neutral site, we all know which team will feel at home in this one & it aint the Horns.
nervousTic said:
Yeah I am nervous. More nervous about my bet than USC team. :mj07: I have to stick to my guns and trust my capping ability. If USC is down 7pts at half, I might have to call in 2h bet if Texas is +6.5 or more. I have prepared for it because most of my $$$ is in Pinny who allows big 2h wagers. But I am real nervous but I was real nervous before USC/OU game as well. I did not predict blowout in that game. I think I predicted 7-10pt USC win and I hedged a little too. OU scared me enough to hedge. Texas doesn't.
I'm calling bullshit.gjn23 said:
I saw Chizik interviewed on ESPN this morning and he said no such thing. In fact he emphasized that the combo of White and Bush creats matchup problems for the Longhorns.
Is it really necessary to fabricate this kind of info?
Scott, I wiil post my own analysis of this game later today.
Scott,
Curious you hear your thoughts on this. Pete Carroll traditionally concedes the short passes, and protects against the deep ball with two or three deep coverage. He can get away with this because the front 7 generally dominates the opposition, at least prior to this season with "the Rowdy Bunch II". Patterson and Cody in particular physcally dominated some very good OL's, Mich 03, OU 04 come to mind. Do you think this DL will be able to consisently pressure Young and stop the running game w/o help from DB's/LB's? Further to this, I don't recall USC ever having to face a QB that is a true running threat. Will the USC DL's "meet you at the QB" philosophy get them in trouble in this one? With Vince Young you really need to be disciplined and stay in your lanes, contain, etc. He is not a stationary target like Jason White or John Navarre.
Curious you hear your thoughts on this. Pete Carroll traditionally concedes the short passes, and protects against the deep ball with two or three deep coverage. He can get away with this because the front 7 generally dominates the opposition, at least prior to this season with "the Rowdy Bunch II". Patterson and Cody in particular physcally dominated some very good OL's, Mich 03, OU 04 come to mind. Do you think this DL will be able to consisently pressure Young and stop the running game w/o help from DB's/LB's? Further to this, I don't recall USC ever having to face a QB that is a true running threat. Will the USC DL's "meet you at the QB" philosophy get them in trouble in this one? With Vince Young you really need to be disciplined and stay in your lanes, contain, etc. He is not a stationary target like Jason White or John Navarre.
3 Seconds
I agree with everything you said except last part. It really isn't an advantage for USC. Def. not a huge advantage. There will most likely be 50/50 fans in the stadium. Small chance maybe more Texas fans but maybe 55/45 more USC fans. Point is gameday atmoshere is somewhat neutral. Where USC had advantage is staying home to practice etc. IMO gameday is most important.
Last years BCS NC Orange Bowl OU fans almost had 2/1 ratio over USC fans. $hit load of Sooner fans. Texas will get something close to a 50/50 split. Texas has great fan base and they will travel big time for this chance to win BCS NC.
I agree with everything you said except last part. It really isn't an advantage for USC. Def. not a huge advantage. There will most likely be 50/50 fans in the stadium. Small chance maybe more Texas fans but maybe 55/45 more USC fans. Point is gameday atmoshere is somewhat neutral. Where USC had advantage is staying home to practice etc. IMO gameday is most important.
Last years BCS NC Orange Bowl OU fans almost had 2/1 ratio over USC fans. $hit load of Sooner fans. Texas will get something close to a 50/50 split. Texas has great fan base and they will travel big time for this chance to win BCS NC.
Scott4USC said:
Only thing I'm nervous about is the lack of line movement. I thought it would be higher by now. Regardless, I hope it works out for you. I'm on the -6.5 as well.
The Judge said:
You need to apologize to gjn23. It was on ESPN SPORTSCENTER LAST NIGHT. I heard it. Exact quote. He isn't making it up or adding anything to it. That is what Chizik said.
