Vapid garenweaselesque rant from Ralph Peters of the NY Post

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Totally hypothetical and entirely idiotic.

I generally like his columns as at least being intellectually honest, but this thing is insane.

He's actually talking about potential INTERNATIONAL STRATEGY setbacks?? :mj07:

Who the f*ck knows how foreign relations would go with an Obama win, but every last one of these 'issues' would/will have been left behind by 8years of W and 6 of the 8 years with a Republican Congress.

Pathetic, sad, desperate column.


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IF Sen. Barack Obama is elected president, our re public will survive, but our international strategy and some of our allies may not. His first year in office would conjure globe-spanning challenges as our enemies piled on to exploit his weakness.

Add in Sen. Joe Biden - with his track record of calling every major foreign-policy crisis wrong for 35 years - as vice president and de facto secretary of State, and we'd face a formula for strategic disaster.

Where would the avalanche of confrontations come from?

* Al Qaeda. Pandering to his extreme base, Obama has projected an image of being soft on terror. Toss in his promise to abandon Iraq, and you can be sure that al Qaeda will pull out all the stops to kill as many Americans as possible - in Iraq, Afghanistan and, if they can, here at home - hoping that America will throw away the victories our troops bought with their blood.

* Pakistan. As this nuclear-armed country of 170 million anti-American Muslims grows more fragile by the day, the save-the-Taliban elements in the Pakistani intelligence services and body politic will avoid taking serious action against "their" terrorists (while theatrically annoying Taliban elements they can't control). The Pakistanis think Obama would lose Afghanistan - and they believe they can reap the subsequent whirlwind.

* Iran. Got nukes? If the Iranians are as far along with their nuclear program as some reports insist, expect a mushroom cloud above an Iranian test range next year. Even without nukes, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would try the new administration's temper in Iraq, Afghanistan and the Persian Gulf.

* Israel. In the Middle East, Obama's election would be read as the end of staunch US support for Israel. Backed by Syria and Iran, Hezbollah would provoke another, far-bloodier war with Israel. Lebanon would disintegrate.

* Saudi Arabia. Post-9/11 attention to poisonous Saudi proselytizing forced the kingdom to be more discreet in fomenting terrorism and religious hatred abroad. Convinced that Obama will be more "tolerant" toward militant Islam, the Saudis would redouble their funding of bigotry and butchery-for-Allah - in the US, too.

* Russia. Got Ukraine? Not for long, slabiye Amerikantsi. Russia's new czar, Vladimir Putin, intends to gobble Ukraine next year, assured that NATO will be divided and the US can be derided. Aided by the treasonous Kiev politico Yulia Timoshenko - a patriot when it suited her ambition, but now a Russian collaborator - the Kremlin is set to reclaim the most important state it still regards as its property. Overall, 2009 may see the starkest repression of freedom since Stalin seized Eastern Europe.

* Georgia. Our Georgian allies should dust off their Russian dictionaries.

* Venezuela. Hugo Chavez will intensify the rape of his country's hemorrhaging democracy and, despite any drop in oil revenue, he'll do all he can to export his megalomaniacal version of gun-barrel socialism. He'll seek a hug-for-the-cameras meet with President Obama as early as possible.

* Bolivia. Chavez client President Evo Morales could order his military to seize control of his country's dissident eastern provinces, whose citizens resist his repression, extortion and semi-literate Leninism. President Obama would do nothing as yet another democracy toppled and bled.

* North Korea. North Korea will expect a much more generous deal from the West for annulling its pursuit of nuclear weapons. And it will regard an Obama administration as a green light to cheat.

* NATO. The brave young democracies of Central and Eastern Europe will be gravely discouraged, while the appeasers in Western Europe will again have the upper hand. Putin will be allowed to do what he wants.

* The Kurds. An Obama administration will abandon our only true allies between Tel Aviv and Tokyo.

* Democracy activists. Around the world, regressive regimes will intensify their suppression - and outright murder - of dissidents who risk their lives for freedom and justice. An Obama administration will say all the right things, but do nothing.

* Women's rights. If you can't vote in US elections, sister, you're screwed. Being stoned to death or buried alive is just a cultural thing.

* Journalists. American journalists who've done everything they can to elect Barack Obama can watch as regimes around the world imprison, torture and murder their foreign colleagues, confident that the US has entered an era of impotence. The crocodile tears in newsrooms will provide drought relief to the entire southeastern US.

Sen. John McCain's campaign has allowed a great man to be maligned as a mere successor to George W. Bush. The truth is that an Obama administration would be a second Carter presidency - only far worse.

Think Bush weakened America? Just wait.
 

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typical scare tactics by the GOP, as they know this election is slipping away from them so they start the scare route. Im sure next week, just like in 2004, we will see the color coded terror alerts ramped up to bright orange or red just like in 04. As far as international relations, both McCain and Obama will do a better job than Bush and Cheney.
 

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typical scare tactics by the GOP, as they know this election is slipping away from them so they start the scare route. Im sure next week, just like in 2004, we will see the color coded terror alerts ramped up to bright orange or red just like in 04. As far as international relations, both McCain and Obama will do a better job than Bush and Cheney.

i gues you didn't hear biden say almost the samething today on a radio interview (?)...he also believes that there will be an attack within the first 6 months of obama's presidency to test out the new president....& he gave an example of kruschev (sp ?) testing the new jfk in the beginning of his presidency as an example...
 

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i gues you didn't hear biden say almost the samething today on a radio interview (?)...he also believes that there will be an attack within the first 6 months of obama's presidency to test out the new president....& he gave an example of kruschev (sp ?) testing the new jfk in the beginning of his presidency as an example...


Any word on Bin Laden 'testing' W with the greatest disaster on our soil in American history within 9 months or so of W being inaugurated?

That's not really fair, but at least Biden left that out of it and went back to 1960.
 

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Kosar - I tried to warn you about that Peters guy. He's been over the edge for a ling time. JMHO. TIA.
 

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i gues you didn't hear biden say almost the samething today on a radio interview (?)...he also believes that there will be an attack within the first 6 months of obama's presidency to test out the new president....& he gave an example of kruschev (sp ?) testing the new jfk in the beginning of his presidency as an example...

oops....:yup
 

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AR,

Of course there is a possibility of attack no matter who is elected, just as there is a possibility of attack tomorrowor the next day etc... Do you not think that Obama would surround himself with people whom have vast amounts of experience in foriegn affairs since this is not his strong suit? This guy is no ones dummy, so I doubt he would try to go at it alone, besides Biden has years of experience. Like any good small or large business, you surround yourself with the best talent available and the chances for success are increased.
 

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Kosar - I tried to warn you about that Peters guy. He's been over the edge for a ling time. JMHO. TIA.

I know you did.

He's usually at least somewhat credible.

This thing is simply a joke.

I think it speaks to the desperation going on here.

TIA

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I was going to highlight the most silly bullet in that article, but each one seemed to outdo the other. ...Yes, very Gardenweaselesque.
 

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I was going to highlight the most silly bullet in that article, but each one seemed to outdo the other. ...Yes, very Gardenweaselesque.

Shane,

I swear, I was reading that at lunch today and I really was astounded and a bit embarrassed about having somewhat defended him before.

I think he got a memo from Murdoch. Desperation.
 

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I think the memo was something like

hurry , something must be done, we are going down the GOP tubes, do something, what can we get Sarah to do ? oh shit not again......

:sadwave: :sadwave:
 

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Gardenweasel,

Why the flip flop on Powell? You supported him before you didnt support him

depends on what you mean by "supported".....i support his service to his country...completely and thoroughly....

i thought he might be an advantage in gaining african american support if he were on a republican ticket as say,a v.p.....but,unfortunately,he`ll help obama garner the african american vote(damn!...lol)

but some of his decisions i don`t support...

this is the same guy that the left wanted to hang for supposedly helping cover up the my lai massacre...that the left wanted to burn in effigy for being part of the "bush cabal"?(talk about flip flopping)....


this is the same guy that gave the speech laying out the rationale for taking saddam out at the u.n.(which i already provided)...

isn`t it funny that bock railed on hillary voting for the iraq war....making a point time and again to question her judgement then choosing biden and adding powell to his team....biden voted "yes" and powell made the case....

flip flopping?....gah!


this is a guy that was john mccain`s friend for 20 years...and didn`t have the decency to call his old friend and discuss the fact that he was going on "meet the press" to drop a bizzle on him....he contributed to the mccain campaign....

guess he was waiting to see who came out on top?...opportunism?....:SIB ..he`s been irrelevant for some time...


this is the same guy that achieved the lofty status that he`s achieved thanks to republican support from beginning to end...reagan and bush made him a four-star general and secretary of state and appointed his son to head the fcc(his son,btw,is supporting mccain).

but,he`s going with the "transformational figure"despite the fact that "the one" wants to gut our military capability(i posted that video already).....

yep,thats what bock said...

he`s a rino....and not a very loyal one at that...
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AR,

Of course there is a possibility of attack no matter who is elected, just as there is a possibility of attack tomorrowor the next day etc... Do you not think that Obama would surround himself with people whom have vast amounts of experience in foriegn affairs since this is not his strong suit? This guy is no ones dummy, so I doubt he would try to go at it alone, besides Biden has years of experience. Like any good small or large business, you surround yourself with the best talent available and the chances for success are increased.

i am not saying that terrorists will attack our country in the beginning of the obama administration....its all supposition because there is no way of knowing.....but if they do attack, i would feel better if mccain was in office than obama..i guess that is why i am voting for him...
 
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