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Biden did much better than I thought he would but did come off as the bully of the debate. Him laughing all the time made him look bad as did Ryan drinking the water constantly. Biden started slow and had no answer for the attack on the libyan consolute. But came on strong in the rest of the debate and had good answers. Ryan did well and made some good points but was not a clear winner in my mind.

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It was good to se Biden act like he did. How many lies are we supposed to listen to before give these pricks the respect they deserve. None! Liar Ryan talks about bi-partisanship....they took an oath to disagree with anything that raised taxes on the rich....good for Biden. For once I can applaud a Dem. for treating these liars like they should be treated.
 
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It was good to se Biden act like he did. How many lies are we supposed to listen to before give these pricks the respect they deserve. None! Liar Ryan talks about bi-partisanship....they took an oath to disagree with anything that raised taxes on the rich....good for Biden. For once I can applaud a Dem. for treating these liars like they should be treated.

Nice take.

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It was good to se Biden act like he did. How many lies are we supposed to listen to before give these pricks the respect they deserve. None! Liar Ryan talks about bi-partisanship....they took an oath to disagree with anything that raised taxes on the rich....good for Biden. For once I can applaud a Dem. for treating these liars like they should be treated.

Biden tore him up. After Ryan talked about how the stimulus money ruined our economy, Biden talked about the two letters he received directly from Ryan asking for stimulus money :mj07::mj07::mj07: Ryan admitted to it. Game. Set. Match.

That is the perfect example of the Republican mindset. Berate the opponent for something you begged for. Sleaze.
 

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It was good to se Biden act like he did. How many lies are we supposed to listen to before give these pricks the respect they deserve. None! Liar Ryan talks about bi-partisanship....they took an oath to disagree with anything that raised taxes on the rich....good for Biden. For once I can applaud a Dem. for treating these liars like they should be treated.

i t really is incredible how these righties will go to any length not to give a democrat credit for anything. Every guy who leans left conceded Obama looked like a punching bag. Not one of them can say Biden won. To show how incredibly slow they are they are more worried about Biden laughing than what really happen last night. This weasely fuk is a deficit hawk but Biden points out what he voted for when Bush was in office. I mean it went on and on with one lie getting exposed after another but like this Jaxx nitwit he is worried about Biden laughing and guess what, So is Fox News and nitwit neocon radio. JUst say ya loss fellas and move on. You look so silly with this laughin nonsense. Man the fuk up or wake the fuk up for once in your lives. Now it is okay to abort a child if your daughter is raped? Flip flop. These neo-con assholes can't wait to get boots on the ground in Iran. You think Iraq was bad? This would kill us. Oh and now they are worried about the people of Syria getting slaughtered just like they were worried about getting the Iraqi's people freedom under the guise of huge profits for their buddies in the military business as well as the black gold. The best line from Biden i thought was "get out of the way" Because this is the whole problem. You hear this weasely fuk talk about bipartisan support yet Mitch McConnell says their number one job was to make Obama a 1 term president. He talks about Romney in New Hampshire working with the 87 percent democrats lmao. He had to you weasly fuc. He had no choice. Filibusters at historical levels but this weasely fuk talks about bipartisan support. Where was the bipartisan support on the recent outsource bill 99 percent of the republicans shot down. That should have been a slam dunk. Were was the bipartisan support for the Vet bill recently? Not one republican could find it in their slimmy heart to vote for that one either. This again should have been a slam dunk. Biden missed a few area but overall did a nice job. Lets hope Obama learned something but this late in the game why is he still learning for christ sakes.
 

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Here is a good one. Last night at my union meeting two Republicans spoke. These two have backbones. I don't like all they stand for but they were the ones who saved the Davis Bacon act which once again the Republicans went after here in Pa. while we have so many other problems. After the last vote which saved it funtil they come after it again, my business agent told me the other Republicans cornered the two and a fist fight almost broke out (in Harrisburg). They also got threaten to never get funding from the Republican party ever again (this from their mouths last night) So these guys show a backbone and these other assholes can't take defeat and resort to all this other bullshit just to cut wages for working families. Pathetic really.
 

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Ryan looked like a deer in the headlights.. Biden won the debate IMO but all anyone is talking about are his antics which isn?t necessarily a good thing for dems. My contention is he had the ammunition and experience to beat Ryan straight up without all of the buffoonery. The laughing, throwing hands up in the air, yelling, over smiling and constant interruptions are just what the Obama drones wanted, but I think this type of behavior turns off independent voters. He appeased the Left but I doubt he changed any undecided voters minds. So yeah he won the debate but nobody will remember that. The only thing anyone will remember is his bizarre over the top behavior. Which is a shame cause he really did have him beat. The side show was completely unnecessary. So do your victory lap if you must, but I don?t think he helped your cause all that much last night.
 

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Ryan looked like a deer in the headlights.. Biden won the debate IMO but all anyone is talking about are his antics which isn?t necessarily a good thing for dems. My contention is he had the ammunition and experience to beat Ryan straight up without all of the buffoonery. The laughing, throwing hands up in the air, yelling, over smiling and constant interruptions are just what the Obama drones wanted, but I think this type of behavior turns off independent voters. He appeased the Left but I doubt he changed any undecided voters minds. So yeah he won the debate but nobody will remember that. The only thing anyone will remember is his bizarre over the top behavior. Which is a shame cause he really did have him beat. The side show was completely unnecessary. So do your victory lap if you must, but I don?t think he helped your cause all that much last night.

HOW COULD YOU WATCH THE SAME THING I DID AND BELIEVE BIDEN WON? HE GOT HIS ASS BEAT, HE LOOKS LIKE A SMUG ASSHOLE IN MY EYES. HE CUT OFF RYAN 82 TIMES IN 90 MINUTES AND THE MODERATOR BITCH SHOULD BE TARRED AND FEATHERED FOR HER PERFORMANCE, SHE SUCKED... CAN YOU BELIEVE WE ARE ONE HEARTBEAT AWAY FROM HIM BEING PRESIDENT? THAT IS SCARY...

i SEE IT AS RYAN BEING A GENTLEMAN AND BIDEN BEING A SMUG TYPICAL LIBERAL PRICK, I BELIEVE RYAN SMOKED HIM :0074
 

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Sponge, you are so right. The fact is that guys like we got here miss the whole point of Bidens act. They think it is terrible that a lying sack of crap got interupted. Jaxx, take you hand off your forehead and tell me why your Ryan was asking for money from a program he thought was hurting the country? Now, that is something worth slapping your forehead over.:facepalm: :0008
 
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Posted at 08:10 AM ET, 10/12/2012 <!-- For AP News Registry -->TheWashingtonPost <!-- /For AP News Registry -->Biden adds to the Libya lies

By Jennifer Rubin

Vice President Joe Biden served up the worst gaffe of any of the 2012 debates, in a moment that will harm not only him but also his boss. Sure, the obnoxious grimacing and the mannerisms will be mocked relentlessly, but it was his egregious misstatement on Benghazi that will now plague the Obama-Biden ticket.
The exchange went like this:
MARTHA RADDATZ: And they wanted more security there.​
BIDEN: But we weren?t told they wanted more security there. We did not know they wanted more security there.​
That was just flat-out false. As many fact-checkers, reporters and pundits instantly pointed out, multiple State Department employees testified just the day before that their pleas for more security were denied. Josh Rogin recollected:

In fact, two security officials who worked for the State Department in Libya at the time testified Thursday that they repeatedly requested more security and two State Department officials admitted they had denied those requests.​
?All of us at post were in sync that we wanted these resources,? the top regional security officer in Libya over the summer, Eric Nordstrom, testified. ?In those conversations, I was specifically told [by Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Charlene Lamb] ?You cannot request an SST extension.? I determined I was told that because there would be too much political cost. We went ahead and requested it anyway.?​
Nordstrom was so critical of the State Department?s reluctance to respond to his calls for more security that he said, ?For me, the Taliban is on the inside of the building.?​
?We felt great frustration that those requests were ignored or just never met,? testified Lt. Col. Andrew Wood, a Utah National Guardsman who was leading a security team in Libya until August.​
Was Biden lying? Was he really so clueless that even now he didn?t know what had occurred? In either case, it will cement the notion that the administration wasn?t paying attention to events in Libya (even now!).
Rep. Paul Ryan?s adviser, Dan Senor, issued a blistering statement late last night: ?Vice President Biden tonight continued the Administration?s pattern of misleading the American people about events in Libya. He wrongly stated that the Administration was not aware of requests for more security from our diplomatic facilities in Libya. But we now know from the sworn testimony of two U.S. security officials who were stationed in Libya that there were repeated requests for more security in the face of rising threats. We need leaders who will be truthful with the American people and who are informed about vital issues of national security. Joe Biden?s comments point to the larger failures of the Administration to be completely transparent about the terrorist attacks in Benghazi and the security situations leading up to the attacks.?
That?s about the size of it. The Post?s Glenn Kessler reamed Biden: ?Biden?s bold statement was directly contradicted by State Department officials just this week, in testimony before a congressional panel and in unclassified cables released by a congressional committee.? NBC?s Andrea Mitchell likewise called out Biden:
<IFRAME height=360 src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/sviBtN3uirE?feature=player_detailpage" frameBorder=0 width=454 allowfullscreen></IFRAME>Biden?s flub illustrates why Obama deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter on Thursday said Benghazi was only about politics; apparently for the Obama-Biden team that?s about the size of it, thereby alleviating them of the need to figure out what happened and to speak truthfully to the American people.
Foreign policy has now become a liability for the Obama campaign. This will make it even more so.
 

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i SEE IT AS RYAN BEING A GENTLEMAN AND BIDEN BEING A SMUG TYPICAL LIBERAL PRICK, I BELIEVE RYAN SMOKED HIM :0074



Ryan took 94 drinks of water. :142smilie


just like you thought Rep winning two years ago would change things for you

pity really
 

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Jaxx, take you hand off your forehead and tell me why your Ryan was asking for money from a program he thought was hurting the country? Now, that is something worth slapping your forehead over.:facepalm: :0008

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that was a kick right on the balls to Ryan


and he just smirked and knew he was caught


what a Palin type dumb ass
 

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Sponge, you are so right. The fact is that guys like we got here miss the whole point of Bidens act. They think it is terrible that a lying sack of crap got interupted. Jaxx, take you hand off your forehead and tell me why your Ryan was asking for money from a program he thought was hurting the country? Now, that is something worth slapping your forehead over.:facepalm: :0008


There you said it.. "Bidens act" which is exactly what it was.. An act, fake, theatrics. My point was he had Ryan licked in the debate and the side show was completely unnecessary. His performance is just what you and your ilk wanted but I doubt it did little to sway potential voters that are on the fence. Not that any VP debate ever does. But it was a complete distraction and the fact that he won may have been lost on independents b/c of it.
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Posted at 08:10 AM ET, 10/12/2012 <!-- For AP News Registry -->TheWashingtonPost <!-- /For AP News Registry -->Biden adds to the Libya lies

By Jennifer Rubin

Vice President Joe Biden served up the worst gaffe of any of the 2012 debates, in a moment that will harm not only him but also his boss. Sure, the obnoxious grimacing and the mannerisms will be mocked relentlessly, but it was his egregious misstatement on Benghazi that will now plague the Obama-Biden ticket.
The exchange went like this:
MARTHA RADDATZ: And they wanted more security there.​
BIDEN: But we weren?t told they wanted more security there. We did not know they wanted more security there.​
That was just flat-out false. As many fact-checkers, reporters and pundits instantly pointed out, multiple State Department employees testified just the day before that their pleas for more security were denied. Josh Rogin recollected:

In fact, two security officials who worked for the State Department in Libya at the time testified Thursday that they repeatedly requested more security and two State Department officials admitted they had denied those requests.​
?All of us at post were in sync that we wanted these resources,? the top regional security officer in Libya over the summer, Eric Nordstrom, testified. ?In those conversations, I was specifically told [by Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Charlene Lamb] ?You cannot request an SST extension.? I determined I was told that because there would be too much political cost. We went ahead and requested it anyway.?​
Nordstrom was so critical of the State Department?s reluctance to respond to his calls for more security that he said, ?For me, the Taliban is on the inside of the building.?​
?We felt great frustration that those requests were ignored or just never met,? testified Lt. Col. Andrew Wood, a Utah National Guardsman who was leading a security team in Libya until August.​
Was Biden lying? Was he really so clueless that even now he didn?t know what had occurred? In either case, it will cement the notion that the administration wasn?t paying attention to events in Libya (even now!).
Rep. Paul Ryan?s adviser, Dan Senor, issued a blistering statement late last night: ?Vice President Biden tonight continued the Administration?s pattern of misleading the American people about events in Libya. He wrongly stated that the Administration was not aware of requests for more security from our diplomatic facilities in Libya. But we now know from the sworn testimony of two U.S. security officials who were stationed in Libya that there were repeated requests for more security in the face of rising threats. We need leaders who will be truthful with the American people and who are informed about vital issues of national security. Joe Biden?s comments point to the larger failures of the Administration to be completely transparent about the terrorist attacks in Benghazi and the security situations leading up to the attacks.?
That?s about the size of it. The Post?s Glenn Kessler reamed Biden: ?Biden?s bold statement was directly contradicted by State Department officials just this week, in testimony before a congressional panel and in unclassified cables released by a congressional committee.? NBC?s Andrea Mitchell likewise called out Biden:
<IFRAME height=360 src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/sviBtN3uirE?feature=player_detailpage" frameBorder=0 width=454 allowfullscreen></IFRAME>Biden?s flub illustrates why Obama deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter on Thursday said Benghazi was only about politics; apparently for the Obama-Biden team that?s about the size of it, thereby alleviating them of the need to figure out what happened and to speak truthfully to the American people.
Foreign policy has now become a liability for the Obama campaign. This will make it even more so.


Wasting your breathe with this video. The fact he lied doesnt matter. This office has been been lying about this from the word GO but they dont care.. The deaths of 4 americans mean less than keeping a republican out of office.
 

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Paul Ryan was playing a drinking game.

Every time Biden destroyed a right wing talking point, Ryan took a drink



:142smilie :SIB


and the Eddie Munster haircut was cute too.
 
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