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I would run wherever I could hide from this frightening retard strength Sponge, whether it be the Kotex isle, or other.
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I would run wherever I could hide from this frightening retard strength Sponge, whether it be the Kotex isle, or other.
my four year old newphew got a big kick out of the story to. Having never heard of people saying the phrase "retard strength" makes me wonder how you made it out from your basement and travel all the way to Vegas.
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maybe we're sensitive to "retards" or as I like to say, mentally challenged individuals and choose not to make fun of them? Didn't you say you were pretty strong too, sponge?? I mean, you did hold him down and all!!
Sponge, after reading through many of your assessments of human nature and behavior, the thought occurs to me...
Maybe you weren't the best person to try to talk to "the retard." Just a thought. Seems like he went over the edge after exchanging thoughts with you...
Maybe you weren't the best person to try to talk to "the retard." Just a thought. Seems like he went over the edge after exchanging thoughts with you...
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Yes, you are right, Walmart does "give people what they want" but many of these items are not necessarily what people need. And why it is elitist to want to support local businesses and believe that overconsumption in a world full of struggling people is wrong?
There is loss of community, and it was not all done years ago by the original big corporate stores you named. There are a number of communities that recognize the ills of these large stores...for example, Boulder, Colorado where I lived for the last 6 years. Walmart has tried many times unsuccessfully to start a store there, and we put KMart out of business years ago (case in point - we tried to persuade Denver that they needed a shooting guard instead of kmart, but that was an unsuccessful venture, one we are still paying heavily for). People do shop at the local bookstores more than Borders, and they are willing to pay the extra 5% to support the local hardware store rather than Home Depot. The family-owned local stores are always more crowded than ANY of the corporate stores, and I think it is great. And even though the local hardware store is huge, I have personally talked to Mr. McGuckin, the owner, many times, as he is out and about helping customers. I have never had the pleasure of seeing or conversing with any of the Walton children, and personally, it is nice to know who my money is going to, and generally speaking these local businesses do more to improve the community, as they live in it, than any of the corporate stores.
So I will continue to shop at the local co-op where all the produce comes from local farmers, and get gas at the station that only buys American gas, and avoid going to stores like Walmart and purchasing products that originate from sweatshops, and buying groceries that are shipped from overseas or across the US, which not only wastes gas, but also generally doesn't support American economy, and especially local economy. And if that is elitist, well... I don't know what to say...
Hey HH!
you misunderstand, I wrote elitists "impose" their wishes. That is, using legal and govermental means to stop or hinder Wal-Mart from helping the welfare of Americans and poor "sweatshop" workers worldwide (one analysts estimates Wal-Mart alone lifts 38,000 Chinese out of poverty each month, and helps Chinese economy become less reliant on selling weapons, thus increasing world peace!)
I have no problem with folks deciding where to shop based on whatever reason, as long as they don't use goverment coercion to force such wishes on others (in general, of course). Freedom and choice are generally a good things.
Boulder, or Eugene OR, or Acata CA, or Burlington VT, are very different places from Yates Center KS (where I live also off and on). Boulder, etc is not indicative of the overwhelming majority of places Wal-Mart goes and does it's best work. Yates Center is.
Many of the other points you raise, about "sweatshops", "wastes" gas, hurt economy, "improve" community and such--are all based on what I believe to be false economic assumptions. But I don't have the space and time to explore all these, I just suggest you read the book, in the name of open intellectual exploration, that I mention in the other Wal-Mart thread.
Like you, I'd rather do other stuff, such as listen and watch Michelangeli (in his prime!) play Chopin!
you misunderstand, I wrote elitists "impose" their wishes. That is, using legal and govermental means to stop or hinder Wal-Mart from helping the welfare of Americans and poor "sweatshop" workers worldwide (one analysts estimates Wal-Mart alone lifts 38,000 Chinese out of poverty each month, and helps Chinese economy become less reliant on selling weapons, thus increasing world peace!)
I have no problem with folks deciding where to shop based on whatever reason, as long as they don't use goverment coercion to force such wishes on others (in general, of course). Freedom and choice are generally a good things.
Boulder, or Eugene OR, or Acata CA, or Burlington VT, are very different places from Yates Center KS (where I live also off and on). Boulder, etc is not indicative of the overwhelming majority of places Wal-Mart goes and does it's best work. Yates Center is.
Many of the other points you raise, about "sweatshops", "wastes" gas, hurt economy, "improve" community and such--are all based on what I believe to be false economic assumptions. But I don't have the space and time to explore all these, I just suggest you read the book, in the name of open intellectual exploration, that I mention in the other Wal-Mart thread.
Like you, I'd rather do other stuff, such as listen and watch Michelangeli (in his prime!) play Chopin!
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OK - sorry for misreading you...I completely agree. And I do not wish to impose my shopping strategies on anyone, as I realize there are different reasons for shopping anywhere...I am all for freedom!
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I find this particularly funny because I used to live in Boulder, my sister who is also my best friend lives in Arcata and my cousins who I am also extremely close with live in Burlington and Eugene... and you are correct all of these towns are unlike most places in America.
OK - I will read it with an open mind and I will get back to you after I have finished. You seem like a very intelligent person and I respect your views and opinions (although I still think global warming is real...lol), so I have to assume the book will be worthwhile.
:clap: thank you that made my day quite bright!
Sponge, after reading through many of your assessments of human nature and behavior, the thought occurs to me...
Maybe you weren't the best person to try to talk to "the retard." Just a thought. Seems like he went over the edge after exchanging thoughts with you...
Maybe you could have talk to him with one of your long winded post that people read about two paragraph and realize its the same redundent stuff. You got a little perturb in this thread and then you saw about ten guys basically saying the same stuff i said about Walmart. Maybe your gentle approach doesn't work. All i said to the guy was "how you doing buddy" to think he was mad at me is a funny assertion of yours.
Heres a little story on Wal-Mart............maybe some opinions will change
http://judicial-inc.biz/wal_mart_health_care.htm
http://judicial-inc.biz/wal_mart_health_care.htm
nice post Maverick. Exactly what i siad about the health care issue. How we as tax payers fork over money for their health care. They keep raking in billions and we keep getting the shaft. Your post just shows how uneducated people are about this situation and rather save ten pennies because they don't have it in them to boycott these slims. Kinda reminds me otf that great 300 dollar tax break we got a couple of years ago. You throw a little money around the sheep will fall for it. I don't need to save a few dollars to support other peoples demise. thanks for posting that but i doubt people will watch much of it.
that's a real interesting site! Funny to read most workers regard Target as no better place to work at than Wal-Mart.
This site has a lot of claims that are not backed up and has many dead links.
I've posted several pieces in these two Wal-Mart threads with lotta data, in depth discussion, and studies mentioned.
here's a good op ed piece from WA Post that has this bit on Federal health welfare benefits concerning Wal-Mart:
"Wal-Mart's critics also paint the company as a parasite on taxpayers, because 5 percent of its workers are on Medicaid. Actually that's a typical level for large retail firms, and the national average for all firms is 4 percent. Moreover, it's ironic that Wal-Mart's enemies, who are mainly progressives, should even raise this issue. In the 1990s progressives argued loudly for the reform that allowed poor Americans to keep Medicaid benefits even if they had a job. Now that this policy is helping workers at Wal-Mart, progressives shouldn't blame the company. Besides, many progressives favor a national health system. In other words, they attack Wal-Mart for having 5 percent of its workers receive health care courtesy of taxpayers when the policy that they support would increase that share to 100 percent."
Sponge,
I am guessing that the poor kid was probably the one who needed the hand from the other guy. After reading some of the things that you have posted, I am sure that you had him out retarded by at least 3-1.
you post a picture like that and out the other side of your mouth you make a comment like that. gotta love it.
Sponge, my post to you was kind of a joke, although I don't doubt you missed the humor. Not much humor in much of anything you spew out here, so no big diff. I am perfectly fine with what I posted in this thread, and most others, and unlike some around here I can admit when others make a good point. There are many valid points on both sides in this thread...you can only ever allow for people who agree with you to be "right." If there's one thing I've learned over the past 8 years, it's that your way of thinking is better represented by the current administration. With you or against you, no gray areas or admissions of good ideas on another side. Boring.
The sad thing is, we share many of the same ideas about this government and the current administration. I shouldn't have bothered trying to joke with you...I think most picked up on it, if you were offended, well, I think that says a lot, right there. Lighten up, Frances.
The sad thing is, we share many of the same ideas about this government and the current administration. I shouldn't have bothered trying to joke with you...I think most picked up on it, if you were offended, well, I think that says a lot, right there. Lighten up, Frances.
i took it as a half joke and half a slap. You know what i think Chadman? I enjoy reading your post but your way is not the way to get a point accross with crooks and power hungry people. Your way works with giod honest by the book people. You take the Harry Reid, Pelosi type of avenue and i take the Dean way. they are both on the same side but one is much more gentler than the other. Let me ask you one last thing off topic. Didn't you use to run another site or have something to do with one? Called Bettors Tavern?
The last word is actually different but i wasn't sure if it would come up. You will be able to figure it out if you know what im talking about.
Yes sir, I did. Seems like ages ago...the last word was Pub. Have dabbled since then, but not enough time to devote these days...with coaching the son, and driving a couple hours each day to work and back. Doing some fantasy sports writing, but that's about it.
