week 4 Ok St,Cent Flor,TCU and a few more

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Oklahoma St +6 over Texas ****
Think Pokes offense will roll over Texas defense.. Texas defense gave up only 13 and 14 points to La Tech and Rice...but vs LSU gave up close to 600 yds on defense and 45 points ..they have so many new starters on defense and playing 2 weak teams isn't really a good test.. Ok St has a super rb in Hubbard who leads the nation in rushing. he has great cutback skills and has speed.... Gundy who owns Texas will run the ball and est a running game...then they have Wallace one of the top Wr's in the country. Last yr he had 222 yds vs. a Texas secondary ..he is a game breaker ..Sanders is a dual threat qb but very young and still inexperienced. But Ok St has 7 plays over 50 yds this year...they blew Ore St away 52-. and McNesse 56-14..they did beat Tulsa last week and won 40-21 but did struggle until the 2nd half..Gundy has big time players that can break away..their defense is improved but stopping Texas will be tough..Ehlinger has been great passing for over 100 yds in each game and no ints..Collins is back at WR.. also Texas wr's are solid in Duverney,Epps Smith and Eagles...then there best wr who was out last game Collins is big time..Rb's are avg with Ingram..qb is still your best rb..think the problem will be Texas defense..can they stop Ok St's offense...LSU has 3 wr;s that got over 100 yds each...Ok St OL is solid and can't see Texas putting any pressure on Sanders,,but stopping Hubbard is the real problem DL and Lb's have to stack up to stop him..Texas secondary is very young and makes mistakes..I see Wallace being double teamed and it opens up other seams else where.. Ok St has Texas numbers winning 5 straight in Austin.. think Texas offense will score and move the ball on offense,,but think they will be playing from behind...Hubbard will be attacking the Texas all day..play action should be available once Texas stacks the line...Wallace should get a few long gains...you have maybe the top Rb and WR in the B-12 going against a defense that has not been tested yet... Herman is 4-7 ats at home but the biggest bulletin news is Gundy mentioned that not one single Ok St player was ever recruited by Texas...talk about Pokes incentive...think Ok St covers and could easily win out right..hopefully Texas has fixed their air conditioning locker room ..

funny story.. T Boone Pickens passed away this week...he gave his alma mater Ok St millions of dollars..the stadium is named after him...he has building on campus named after him...he and Coach Gundy had their differences over the years...in his will he left $300 Million to Ok St,half of that to the athletic program....it is rumored he left Gundy $100 to " Cut and Shoot" barbershop to get rid of his mullock...lol

back later with Utah -4.5 over USC **
Central Fl -12.5 over Pitt ****
Coastal -17 over UMass ***
BC -7.5 over Rutgers ****
UTSA +18.5 over North Texas **
Tulsa -3.5 over Wyo **
TCU -9.5 over Smoo ****
Houston +5.5 over Tulane **
tonight or tomorrow

Like CF,TCU and BC strong... back later to explain...

last week

8-3-1 +16.5

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Record thru Week 3

21 Wins [+62.00 *]
11 Losses [-29.70 *]

YTD NCAA [+32.30 *]

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Houston +5 over Tulane ** L-2.20
Houston ML ** +170 ** L2.00
Utah -4 over USC ** L-2.20
TCU -9.5 over Smoo *** L-3.30
Tulsa -3.5 over Wyom ** L-2.20
Central Fl -11 over Pitt **** L-4.40
Baylor -26 over Rice ** L-2.20
UTSA +19 over North Texas ** L-2.20
8 LOSES [-20.70 *]


Wisky -4 over Michigam ** W+2.00
BC -7.5 over Rutgers **** W+4.00
Coastal Carol -16' over UMass *** W+2.00
3 Wins [+8.00*]

Texas St -3 over Ga St ** PUSH
Oklahoma St +6 over Texas **** PUSH

Week 4 Results 3-8-2 [-12.70 *]

Record thru Week 4

24 Wins [+70.00 *]
19 Losses [-50.40 *]

YTD NCAA [+19.60 *]
 
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Again thank you Old South for the updates..some lines have changed but did manage to get about a few originals plays in...

Boston Col -7.5 over Rutgers ****
Ash has not formally announced Carter at qb is doubtful yet but he hasn't practiced all week...pretty sure he won't play with concussion...that mean the worst qb rated 128 out of 128 last yr Sitkowski starts ..in the iowa 30- 0 game last week he came off the bench when Carter went out..and liked he did last yr was 4-11 1 interception and threw for 36 yds.. a pocket passer who is a target for any opponent ...at least Carter was mobile and could elude a rush and step up...RU wr's have Bo with 7 receptions and a few with 3 or 4 each...most of there damage was done vs UMass probably the worst D-1 team in the country. They do have 2 solid rb's in Blackshear and Pacheco..but Iowa defense didn't give then any openings...Ol was over powered by Iowa DL.. Ash's job is on the line...beating UMass isn't saving it...1-11 last year...Ru defense has no pass rush..does have athletic LB crew but secondary has problems ...these guys could go 1-11 again
Boston Col is a good offensive team...there qb Brown last yr had over 2,000 yds in passing...this year he is 41-76 633 yds and 0 ints...Ol is big and strong...cannot see RU's defense penetrating giving Brown all the time to pass...but BC has 6'0 250 pound AJ Dillon one of the best RB's in the country. 1st team All ACC..has 318 yds and 4 tds so far..but its his avg per carry which is always around 5 yds ..what' amazing about AJ is his vision and the ability to cut back...has great vision and see's the openings...RU will have to stack the line of scrimmage..but BC has 3 wr's that are solid.. Baily,Flowers,White and Long..also has AJ coming out of the backfield... see some play action plays.... BC was upset by Kansas..what was it.. Les Miles??? think that is good for this week...Addazio the BC coach could be fired losing to KU and Rutgers back to back... think BC wins this by 3 td's with AJ running wild BC defense should dominate vs a qb who sits in the pocket and can't pass.. RU wr's get no separations vs BC def backs..Sit will force a few for some ints..think this line will go up to -8 or -9 once its announced Carter is out..but even with Carter playing BC wins and covers...

Houston +5 over Tulane **
Houston ML ** +170 **
Small play...think everyone is looking at Tulane-Auburn game...Wave played well and did some nice things vs Auburn... Coogs defense is bad,they have lost 4 of 5 rd games but the best player on the field tonite is D'Eriq King...he threw for over 3,000 yds and had 36 tds..he has some nice wr's back and new Coach Dana Holgorsen might take a few games under his belt to get this team going..I know Tulane is improved . Houston led Wash St in the 1st half 14-7..in 2nd half fell apart..King scored on a 72 yd but it was called back for holding..with 11 minutes left it was 21-17..Wash St has an air raid attack with Leach as the coach.. Gordan the qb had a huge day vs Coogs defense..Tulane doesn't have that type of offense despite beating FIU and Mizzou st...Wave has a solid rb and qb and plays good defense...I see a close game and maybe Tulane up by 3-4 pts and then King just braking a qb keep for 70 yds and not only covering but winning by a few..

Back later with a few more
Took Central Fl -11 over Pitt ****
Coastal -16.5 over Umass ****
UTSA +19 over North Texas **
Utah -4 over USC **
Tulsa -3.5 over Wyoming **
Texas St -3 over Ga St **
TCU -9.5 over Smoo ***

some lines have changed like Ok St +6 over Texas ****
that has gone to to -5 but I played it early..
 

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Houston +5 over Tulane ** Thru.8pm
ESPN
Houston ML ** +170 **

Utah -4 over USC **Fri 9pm FS1

BC -7.5 over Rutgers **** 12pm BTN

Coastal Carol -16' over UMass **** 1pm NESN

Central Fl -11 over Pitt **** 3:30pm ABC

Tulsa -3.5 over Wyom ** 3:30pm CBS

TCU -9.5 over Smoo *** 3:30pm FS1

Texas St -3 over Ga St ** 7pm ESPN+

UTSA +19 over North Texas ** 7:30pm SCF

Oklahoma St +6 over Texas **** 7:30pm ABC


Not trying to be a dick but shouldn't you use the lines that are originally posted? For example, Houston +5' was the original pick and then the line moved to +5. I would think the pick would be graded at +5'. Same thing with Utah. Posted first at -4 and then moved to -4'. Just curious how you are handling line movement.
 

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BJ,sorry for the confusion....some games I already played and some were going to play... ie,,,, I listed Houston +5.5 tonight...but when I made the play this morning it was only +5 so lost half a point...so I put +5 today....Ok St I played at +6 and its down to +5 I think....but played it already... I loved BC and got it at -7.5 last night thinking Carter won't play...I just saw the line and its up to -8 or -9 ...so what do I post? if I made the play already will post my original play... I sometimes gain a pt here or there or lose a pt...I loved Central Fl but didn't play it yet...its now gone down to -11 from my original post to -12.5 ...and will play it even more at -11.....
UTSA is the same was +18.5 now +19...so what should I post... I had Coastal at -16 but when I played it this morning it was -16.5...not trying to confuse you or esp Old South.. I gain some and lose some points when the line changes...I will tomorrow put the final post and what ever I play will use that as my record...is that Ok..again... not sure how to handle the line movement ...again not trying to fool anyone...Old South maybe can give me some suggestions...or you...
so tonight I have Houston +5 ** and added a moneyline **
 

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No problem buddy. I run into the same issues. I would suggest using the number that was first posted. As you said, sometimes the later line movement helps and sometimes it doesn?t. It usually doesn?t affect anything unless there is a big movement due to suspension, injury, etc. If that happens, I just post the game again at the new number.

For example, I posted BG +9? early this week. The line is creeping and I plan to post with the new number as well. Both games will be graded at their respective numbers.
 

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Not trying to be a dick but shouldn't you use the lines that are originally posted? For example, Houston +5' was the original pick and then the line moved to +5. I would think the pick would be graded at +5'. Same thing with Utah. Posted first at -4 and then moved to -4'. Just curious how you are handling line movement.

BGF,

It is a great question and the best way I can explain it is that Box's first list is seldom his locked in wagers.

If you look at his first post you will see

Coastal -17 over UMass ***

latest post

Coastal Carol -16' over UMass ****

and this will continue thru March Madness...and it's OK..I'm having fun..

so the only way I can keep it straight it wait thru the post and cipher it out
last post counts

hope this is fair in everybody's thinking..

Alright Box lets finish in the +
 

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BC -7.5 over Rutgers ****
Best play,bad match up for the Scarlet Nites...wont be able to stop AJ...

Central Fl -11 over Pitt ****
CF doesn't get to play power 5 teams often.. They just blew Stanford out even though Stanford might be having a down year..These Knights are for real...on both OL and DL they all have SEC talent...they have stud rb's and their wr's are quick,athletic and create separation despite Pitts outstanding secondary..and hands...wow Davis is a 6'3 Odell type...and their qb is freshman lefty Gabriel..Wimbush transferred to the wrong school because he is getting no "light"...there quick pace,rush offense gives no defender a time to catch there breath. Pitt played Penn St great losing by 7 after Narduzzi went for a Fg with a few minutes left...he defended his choice to no avail...Pitt has a Pickett who had over 370 yds over Penn St..but I think Penn St is a little down this year with an avg OL .. Think Pitt getting a lot of credit for losing only 17-10 to the Lions...but it really doesn't matter..CF could run the table again and go 11-0 at least beating 2 power 5 teams...that still might not get them to the final 4 Gabriel will have protection and time and I know Pitts strength is its secondary but Davis and co will be open for big plays all day...last yr CF beat Pitt 45-14..think the same could happen at Pitt...the good news is Narduzzi won't have to make any strategy moves when your down by 20...

Ok St +6 over Texas ****
Already broke the game down line has moved up to +7 but I played it at +6..Think Texas defense has problems stopping the Pokes...think Texas will score and move the ball but will grab the points in a see saw battle...Longhorns have the qb but Ok St has the running back and wr..

Coastal -16.5 over UMass ***
Mass can't play defense and has no offense...

TCU -9.5 over Smoo ***
Line has dropped to -8 but I missed it...with TCU defense don't think it matters to much Smoo is 3-0 blowing out Ark St,North Texas and Texas St..vs Tex St that had over 600 yds on offense..Patterson owns
SMoo dominating this rivalry for years .. Last yr TCU won 42-12,yr before 56-36,33-3,56-36.56-7 and 56-0... Sonny has a lot of transfers like their qb from Texas...Jones is a solid rb has 2 outstanding wr's but TCU plays outstanding defense...although they just shut down Purdue even though they lost their staring qb the Frogs are tough TCU has some qb problems but has Anderson and Olonilla at rb...can't see Stangs stopping them...over the years when these guys meet the line is always -20,-21 etc...but with Smoo s 3-0 start this is the 1st time its single digits..but think Patterson gets his boys in another s double digit win

Utah -4 over USC **
Don't get to see Utah much on the east coast..so tonite the Utes know the right coast on friday nite is watching defense outstanding

Tulsa -3.5 over Wyoming **
Texas St -3 over Ga St **
this might be only one or 2 of the teams they could beat...no running backs no kicker,no defense and no offense..a homer play Bobcats sneak out a win...at home

UTSA +19 over North Texas **
NT defense is a problem although they gave Cal a game last week...I was at the game last yr in San Antonio when NT just won a close game...NT's top rb is out but Fine is a record braking qb...think NT wins but the Roadrunners keep it closer...

Wisky -4 over Michigam **
Mich has its new spread offense and it isn't working..scoring 14 pts vs Army defense and really was lucky to win the game...Wisky comes in with a solid defense shutting out its last 2 opponents and winning 110-0 which means nothing because who they played...but they have revenge from last yrs 38-13 loss and has Taylor..that is Jonathan ...Wisky is 11-3 ats as an away fav

Baylor -26 over Rice **
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Boston College and Cent Flor Coastal and Ok St

leaving tomr for Ft Meyers ...never been there my buddies have tickets to the Giant-Tampa game..then flying to Philly to see daughter for a few days..then take the train up to NY and see what is going on with my unsold house...will stay in the house until mid-Oct and then back to Austin...

dog lover..will contact you when I get back in 3 weeks ..did get my barb-q at Rudys last night...
old south hopefully you can figure all this out just go with the last numbers...will post in a few days from Philly good luck everybody.. thank you Houston last night for showing up..think up 28-7 and then missed to Fg's...
 

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Hey Box...

Wisky is at home.......I still don't understand the respect Mich gets and I'm with ya on the game just wanted to let you know they aren't on the road as you had stated in your write-up.
 

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Hey Box...

Wisky is at home.......I still don't understand the respect Mich gets and I'm with ya on the game just wanted to let you know they aren't on the road as you had stated in your write-up.

Thanks box for your posts. I always posted the line
I played the game at. That is what the play is for me.
 
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