I check out the General Discussion forum every day and it seems that the alleged gamblers that visit this site don't care to discuss offshore gambling at all. I mean, that's why we are here, right? Not to discuss politics or to tell jokes, but to improve our handicapping. I can understand that it is fun to get in a good discussion or post a few funny jokes from time to time, but it seems that 90% of the posts in the General Discussion forum have nothing at all to do with the topic that should matter most on this site: offshore gambling.
What about offshore gambling?
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I personally need all the jokes and pictures to go with my constant gambling.
I've become a well rounded individual thanks to this site
By the way, I use three locals and Olympic.
Now back to the T&A!!!!!!!!!!!
I've become a well rounded individual thanks to this site
By the way, I use three locals and Olympic.
Now back to the T&A!!!!!!!!!!!
Nick, no disrespect, but under "General Discussion Forum" it states "Discussions about everything else and Non-Handicapping Issues". Hell, now that the softball crew has disappeared for the most part, the smoke has finally quit radiating from my monitor.
If its the topic that should matter most, than maybe you shouldnt be in the GENERAL DISCUSSION forum. Too bad Jack doesnt have a forum to talk about offshore gambling, oh wait, whoops, here is is:
Offshore Sportsbooks and Gambling
Have a question or concern about a sportsbook? Have a gambling question or system you'd like to share with us? Post it here!
So personally, 100% of the topics in GENERAL DISCUSSION should have nothing to do with offshore gambling.
Offshore Sportsbooks and Gambling
Have a question or concern about a sportsbook? Have a gambling question or system you'd like to share with us? Post it here!
So personally, 100% of the topics in GENERAL DISCUSSION should have nothing to do with offshore gambling.
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I think what Nick is trying to say is that he would like to see more discussions going on in that forum.
I don't visit that section anymore because it didn't seem to matter. One post is praising a site, one post is bashing a site.
What I would like to see is a spreadsheet of what different books offer. It shouldn't be hard to put together except that my talent level with spreadsheets is minimal at best, and I don't have a ton of experience with a lot of offshore outs.
I don't care what specials are being run at a sportsbook.
If I like playing 4 team parlays with the possibility of buying the last game back if I so desire...what is the best book for me? These are the questions that I would like seen answer.
Disclaimer: I don't play many parlays and if for some odd chance it's still alive going into the last game, I will usually let it ride!
I am a low-limit player that doesn't make many withdrawals (usually because I run the account down to zero). I play mostly college football with a sporadic NBA and MLB wager sprinkled in. What is the best book for me? If I could find that answer in the forum, then I would visit that area when looking to deposit. I deposited with Infinity because of the contest and that would keep me from actually playing NFL games this season. So far, it has saved me a lot of money this year!
I don't visit that section anymore because it didn't seem to matter. One post is praising a site, one post is bashing a site.
What I would like to see is a spreadsheet of what different books offer. It shouldn't be hard to put together except that my talent level with spreadsheets is minimal at best, and I don't have a ton of experience with a lot of offshore outs.
I don't care what specials are being run at a sportsbook.
If I like playing 4 team parlays with the possibility of buying the last game back if I so desire...what is the best book for me? These are the questions that I would like seen answer.
Disclaimer: I don't play many parlays and if for some odd chance it's still alive going into the last game, I will usually let it ride!
I am a low-limit player that doesn't make many withdrawals (usually because I run the account down to zero). I play mostly college football with a sporadic NBA and MLB wager sprinkled in. What is the best book for me? If I could find that answer in the forum, then I would visit that area when looking to deposit. I deposited with Infinity because of the contest and that would keep me from actually playing NFL games this season. So far, it has saved me a lot of money this year!
To me it looks like Nick said exactly what he wanted to say "it seems that 90% of the posts in the General Discussion forum have nothing at all to do with the topic that should matter most on this site: offshore gambling." To which I say, good - and no offense to him, but who is he to decide what should matter most to people on this site? General Discussion should be about just that, anything and everything people want to discuss. If you want more traffic in the Offshore Gambling forum, say that. Dont say you wish there were more offshore gambling discussions in the general discussion forum, go to the offshore forum and start some discussions, people will follow.
hey Nick here is something to talk about-lets talk about the fact that no one cares what you have to say. Remember the fact that you dissed the WORM several months ago, and the WORM does not forget. Go start a thread about gambling offshore that nobody reads so the rest of us can discuss whatever the hell we want. By the way-start posting more picks so the Worm can fade the shit out of them and win tons of $$$$$$$$$$$$$
Worm......that's not nice. Shit, my nizzle.........you hit 75%.....why would you waste time with anyone elses plays?
For a guy who never "has time" to explain why he likes his "plays", you sure seem to have enough time to run your yap.
For a guy who never "has time" to explain why he likes his "plays", you sure seem to have enough time to run your yap.
yyz-you are a idiot-was I talking to you-did I say I hit 75%?--go back and read the thread (sound out the big words)--I said I am aiming for 75%--I am at 66.6%--I post my record on my major plays for everyone to see, so:thefinger :thefinger
It is certainly a valid point that in theory this forum is a place to discuss non-handicapping issues, but in practice this forum is a basic starting point for a heck of a lot of Mad Jack's regulars. That is why I am losing a lot of my interest in this site; because an increasing number of posters seem to be concerned mostly with either forwarding a political agenda, bashing others or trying to gain some type of credibility (in many cases so that they can start a service) when they post here.
The response to this post is, sadly, exactly what I expected. A handful of folks looking either to bash me or justify the sinking quality of *handcapping* information on this website. The fact is that this remains the best handicapping website on the internet but I am not alone in noticing a decline in the percentage of quality posts.
The response to this post is, sadly, exactly what I expected. A handful of folks looking either to bash me or justify the sinking quality of *handcapping* information on this website. The fact is that this remains the best handicapping website on the internet but I am not alone in noticing a decline in the percentage of quality posts.
I really do not see the point of this topic. I do not post often but when I do, it is usually in this forum. It seems to me that Jack intended to make a community here. Why else would an elaborate Super Bowl party be put together each year? Is the only thing discussed at the party pointspreads and prop bets? A lot of people seem to have made friends here. This forum is the water cooler...the big table in the cafe where everyone shoots the breeze...and usually it's the same handful of people every day. What should be discussed here that is not covered in any of the other forums? Where should fellow mad jackers congregate to actually talk about something other than sports?
By the way, I don't post picks in the other forums because I am just too damn superstitious about it. However, I did voice a World Series opinion.
Good luck this weekend,
M
By the way, I don't post picks in the other forums because I am just too damn superstitious about it. However, I did voice a World Series opinion.
Good luck this weekend,
M
Maybe I wasn't clear on what I was saying. I understand that General Discussion is a good place to have B.S. threads but do they all have to be B.S.?
And yes, at least when I was at the Super Bowl party in 2002, the vast, vast majority of the conversation revolved around handicapping.
And yes, at least when I was at the Super Bowl party in 2002, the vast, vast majority of the conversation revolved around handicapping.
i have a question-- do i have to bet all my favorite nfl teams ? if this is a stupid question, please don't make me join derrick in the corner with that dunce cap !
Nick,
The bottom line on this is that about a dozen guys here are handicappers. The rest of us are casual players. Of those casual players, about another dozen and a half seem to post any information of use to anyone.
Most of the posts are just guys picking teams. That is the way it is, and the way it will be. I suggested a couple years ago that Jack make a "paying members only" page of the forum, that more serious text and handicapping information could be shared.
I highly doubt that many people here follow anyone's information here, though. Most guys just place some plays, and hope they win, so the ass kissers can line up. Even though guys will sit around high-fiving each other, I doubt they really bet each others selections. We are too stubborn. "I'll be damned if I need this guys plays to make ME money."
I think the only guys using any plays in here, are the guys who lurk. They are the guys stopping in and looking for a certain poster, and maybe making a play off of his suggestion. Anyone who posts in here, is looking to feed their own ego. Period.
No, there is little substance in the form of handicapping for one reason, IMO.........Most guys have no clue how to handicap!
There is almost no one here who makes money at this for two seasons in a row, let alone a carreer. I know that a bunch of you will line up and tell me I am full of shit, but we all know that aint so.
A vast majority of the guys who post here are lazy, unknowledgeable, egotistical, undisciplined, losers. That's the nature of the game, boys. You can't win in this business without sustained luck, and that is a fact. You must have more bounces go for you, than against you. (And that's if you actually know something about handicapping!)
I belive most guys in here pick up the sports page, or log on to ESPN.com, and look for a little tidbit here and there, and then post their "Play Of The Month!!!!!" They have no fukking clue what they are doing, but they are sports nuts, so that makes them a handicapper.
Has MadJack's gone to shit over the years? I'm not quite ready to say that, but the quality of posts has dwindled to a very noticable range. I still won't post at any of the other sites that I've been to, because they are too far gone, IMO.
Nick, the reason people post on so much other shit, and not handicapping information, is that they actually know something, or at least think they do, about those subjects. AND, telling someone Clinton this, or Bush that, is always a gray area. Only my say against yours. Telling a guy that Penn State is a lock, risks you looking a fool when they lose.
Worm,
Of course, I don't know you, but you have always rubbed me the wrong way. You are the prototypical "scamdicapper" with the way you run your act around here. When you first came here, you were all nicey-nice for about a week. Then, you post your big play. "This is a 5 unit play, and that's my biggest play, guys."
A week later, you come out with a 10 unit play. A few days later, the 25, 50 and 100 unit plays roll out. And a five unit play is your biggest? That's when you lost any credibility with me. But, the stooges around here ate it up! "Man....this guy hit 5 in a row, and this is a 100 unit play!.....I'm pounding it!" It loses, and it's "Oh, well."
You are always there to tell everyone what a great play you had when it wins, but you slink off into the background when you lose. That's classless, brother. People ask you for some reason behind your huge locks, and you poo poo them with any excuse you can for why you can't tell them. You say you are hitting 2 out of 3 this season? Great! I still say you flip coins. What is a "big play" for you, as opposed to a normal, small, whatever play? The big plays are the ones that win? People like you are the reson places like this suck.
In closing, I think that the timeline goes a little something like this:
MadJack's is like a comfortable pair of shoes. Personally, I have made a few friends though this site, even though I have never met any of you. I like it here. I like it for all of it's aspects. I don't come here for sports information, like I used to. I come here because it is a place that feels good. That is because it is a community with plenty of things to offer besides hadicapping. I am sure many of you share this sentiment, and that is why you stay around.
The bottom line on this is that about a dozen guys here are handicappers. The rest of us are casual players. Of those casual players, about another dozen and a half seem to post any information of use to anyone.
Most of the posts are just guys picking teams. That is the way it is, and the way it will be. I suggested a couple years ago that Jack make a "paying members only" page of the forum, that more serious text and handicapping information could be shared.
I highly doubt that many people here follow anyone's information here, though. Most guys just place some plays, and hope they win, so the ass kissers can line up. Even though guys will sit around high-fiving each other, I doubt they really bet each others selections. We are too stubborn. "I'll be damned if I need this guys plays to make ME money."
I think the only guys using any plays in here, are the guys who lurk. They are the guys stopping in and looking for a certain poster, and maybe making a play off of his suggestion. Anyone who posts in here, is looking to feed their own ego. Period.
No, there is little substance in the form of handicapping for one reason, IMO.........Most guys have no clue how to handicap!
There is almost no one here who makes money at this for two seasons in a row, let alone a carreer. I know that a bunch of you will line up and tell me I am full of shit, but we all know that aint so.
A vast majority of the guys who post here are lazy, unknowledgeable, egotistical, undisciplined, losers. That's the nature of the game, boys. You can't win in this business without sustained luck, and that is a fact. You must have more bounces go for you, than against you. (And that's if you actually know something about handicapping!)
I belive most guys in here pick up the sports page, or log on to ESPN.com, and look for a little tidbit here and there, and then post their "Play Of The Month!!!!!" They have no fukking clue what they are doing, but they are sports nuts, so that makes them a handicapper.
Has MadJack's gone to shit over the years? I'm not quite ready to say that, but the quality of posts has dwindled to a very noticable range. I still won't post at any of the other sites that I've been to, because they are too far gone, IMO.
Nick, the reason people post on so much other shit, and not handicapping information, is that they actually know something, or at least think they do, about those subjects. AND, telling someone Clinton this, or Bush that, is always a gray area. Only my say against yours. Telling a guy that Penn State is a lock, risks you looking a fool when they lose.
Worm,
Of course, I don't know you, but you have always rubbed me the wrong way. You are the prototypical "scamdicapper" with the way you run your act around here. When you first came here, you were all nicey-nice for about a week. Then, you post your big play. "This is a 5 unit play, and that's my biggest play, guys."
A week later, you come out with a 10 unit play. A few days later, the 25, 50 and 100 unit plays roll out. And a five unit play is your biggest? That's when you lost any credibility with me. But, the stooges around here ate it up! "Man....this guy hit 5 in a row, and this is a 100 unit play!.....I'm pounding it!" It loses, and it's "Oh, well."
You are always there to tell everyone what a great play you had when it wins, but you slink off into the background when you lose. That's classless, brother. People ask you for some reason behind your huge locks, and you poo poo them with any excuse you can for why you can't tell them. You say you are hitting 2 out of 3 this season? Great! I still say you flip coins. What is a "big play" for you, as opposed to a normal, small, whatever play? The big plays are the ones that win? People like you are the reson places like this suck.
In closing, I think that the timeline goes a little something like this:
These forums came to light about 5-6 years ago. Guys could thump their chest at how good they were, and there was no "history" to disprove their claims.
- These sites were new, and it gave guys a chance to show "their stuff" to others.
At first, the hard work was a little more evident. Guys actually thought they would do a little handicapping and say why they liked a game.
- After a while, guys realized that their plays were nothing special, and they started to flounder. They came out fresh with each new season, and found that winning just wasn't as simple as they though it was.
- The "handicapping" waned, and the social aspect of the forums cam to be.
Guys started talking more about personal, and social issues in their lives, as they became more of a "club" with the guys they have come to know.
- We are where we are today.
You have an old guard of people who realize that this game is near impossible to beat, yet they have many cyber friends whom they still wish to interact with, and this is the common ground.
You have the new guys who find the place, and have the same dreams that we did several years ago.
MadJack's is like a comfortable pair of shoes. Personally, I have made a few friends though this site, even though I have never met any of you. I like it here. I like it for all of it's aspects. I don't come here for sports information, like I used to. I come here because it is a place that feels good. That is because it is a community with plenty of things to offer besides hadicapping. I am sure many of you share this sentiment, and that is why you stay around.
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yyz--some of your points i agree with, some I do not.
The main reason I started posting my plays here is so I could keep an accurate record that I could not muff. No matter how hard I tried to keep this on paper, I am too undisciplined. You know why...because I am not a handicapper (like you said). This season I am a little over .500 and I am pretty stoked about that in football. I do think that the game is beatable if you put in enough time, but I am not going to say that it is a fact. I may just be another victim who has fallen for the bait.
My 1 unit plays are for $15, so I don't care if I go 30% on the year or 70% on the year, it is just playing around money. The funny thing is is that I started playing my plays on Fridays, so I can get (-105). That saves me a total of $0.75 per loss, and I feel like I'm stealing money!
One more point I would like to make: If you really want to be a professional gambler, I would think that you would need to stay away from football in general. It's a squares (like me) game. Just my opinion.
Now could someone post something funny?
The main reason I started posting my plays here is so I could keep an accurate record that I could not muff. No matter how hard I tried to keep this on paper, I am too undisciplined. You know why...because I am not a handicapper (like you said). This season I am a little over .500 and I am pretty stoked about that in football. I do think that the game is beatable if you put in enough time, but I am not going to say that it is a fact. I may just be another victim who has fallen for the bait.
My 1 unit plays are for $15, so I don't care if I go 30% on the year or 70% on the year, it is just playing around money. The funny thing is is that I started playing my plays on Fridays, so I can get (-105). That saves me a total of $0.75 per loss, and I feel like I'm stealing money!
One more point I would like to make: If you really want to be a professional gambler, I would think that you would need to stay away from football in general. It's a squares (like me) game. Just my opinion.
Now could someone post something funny?
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