Where Have All the ChickenHawks Gone?

[Trench]

So yesterday we learned that NATO (code word for U.S.) forces strafed 9 children between the ages of 8 and 14, killing them all, as they collected firewood on a mountainside in Kunar Province, Afghanistan.

I'm just curious where the pro-war guys on this site (and you know who you are) stand on this senseless war at this point. You guys have been awfully quiet about this war lately. Is there anyone here who doesn't believe the only thing we're accomplishing in the Middle-East is creating more anti-American sentiment and future generations of terrorists determined to avenge these senseless deaths?

It's saddens me that two years after the neoconservatives of the Bush Administration left office, we have a President so afraid of appearing weak on foreign policy, he's allowing this bloodshed to continue. Just the other day, Obama's own Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates, had this to say:

?In my opinion, any future defense secretary who advises the president to again send a big American land army into Asia or into the Middle East or Africa should ?have his head examined,? as General MacArthur so delicately put it.?

In case you didn't catch that, that's our Secretary of Defense saying that. Besides the senseless deaths of our own troops and innocent civilians, we continue to dump $10 Billion a month into this pointless war. Why aren't the "fiscal conservatives" here and around the country asking why we continue to fund this money pit?

Can anyone seriously defend this nonsense anymore? :shrug:

 

[Lumi]

NO !

On to Mexico? :shrug:

Doesn't seem like O has the stones to stand up to that invading country's President though ?

 

[ssd]

The Middle East has been ruled by dictators and despots forever - call them Pharoahs or kings or sheiks or warlords - Afghanistan falls into this same category.

It is a pointless waste of time and money and human life.

 

[bleedingpurple]

Get out NOW!

Obama needs to do more and get more troops home. He needs to push to end this shit. I thought he was going to do more and this is the part about him that pisses me off. I thought he was going to have the stones.

 

[Lumi]

Get out NOW!

Obama needs to do more and get more troops home. He needs to push to end this shit. I thought he was going to do more and this is the part about him that pisses me off. I thought he was going to have the stones.

He had Jaime Foxx instead !

 

[StevieD]

The Chicken Hawks mostly changed their tune as soon as Obama took over. The question is why has he not brought us home yet? :shrug: But make no mistake about it we are there because the Chicken Hawks allowed and supported it.

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

The Chicken Hawks mostly changed their tune as soon as Obama took over. The question is why has he not brought us home yet? :shrug: But make no mistake about it we are there because the Chicken Hawks allowed and supported it.

That is what makes me vomit. War is war. Some of these morons playing with people's lives depending on who is in the white house.

 

[The Sponge]

That is what makes me vomit. War is war. Some of these morons playing with people's lives depending on who is in the white house.

That is what happens when u have a country full of clowns who don't know any better and can be manipulated by people like Michelle Backman who convinced these mental midgets that the soldiers wanted to keep on fighting a few years back.

 

[Skulnik]

So yesterday we learned that NATO (code word for U.S.) forces strafed 9 children between the ages of 8 and 14, killing them all, as they collected firewood on a mountainside in Kunar Province, Afghanistan.

I'm just curious where the pro-war guys on this site (and you know who you are) stand on this senseless war at this point. You guys have been awfully quiet about this war lately. Is there anyone here who doesn't believe the only thing we're accomplishing in the Middle-East is creating more anti-American sentiment and future generations of terrorists determined to avenge these senseless deaths?

It's saddens me that two years after the neoconservatives of the Bush Administration left office, we have a President so afraid of appearing weak on foreign policy, he's allowing this bloodshed to continue. Just the other day, Obama's own Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates, had this to say:

?In my opinion, any future defense secretary who advises the president to again send a big American land army into Asia or into the Middle East or Africa should ?have his head examined,? as General MacArthur so delicately put it.?

In case you didn't catch that, that's our Secretary of Defense saying that. Besides the senseless deaths of our own troops and innocent civilians, we continue to dump $10 Billion a month into this pointless war. Why aren't the "fiscal conservatives" here and around the country asking why we continue to fund this money pit?

Can anyone seriously defend this nonsense anymore? :shrug:

TRENCH, here's your CHICKENHAWKS, you're looking in the WRONG places.


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[Skulnik]

TRENCH and all of you that AGREE with him, stop rewriting history,


TIA.

:shrug:

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

TRENCH and all of you that AGREE with him, stop rewriting history,


TIA.

:shrug:

Yeah, it was the Dems that wanted go to war in Iraq. Jesus.

 

[Trench]

TRENCH and all of you that AGREE with him, stop rewriting history,


TIA.

:shrug:

Too funny... :142smilie

I didn't mention any names or any history yet Skulnik gets defensive and then accuses me of rewriting history.

Another clear case of cognitive dissonance syndrome.

 

[ssd]

Well, to hear StevieD explain it,

we are still there because the ChickenHawks still want us there.

Makes perfect sense - blame EVERYONE else, all the time and see what sticks.

 

[Trench]

Well, to hear StevieD explain it,

we are still there because the ChickenHawks still want us there.

Makes perfect sense - blame EVERYONE else, all the time and see what sticks.

Well, the Bush Administration was overrun with chickenhawks but chickenhawks come in all flavors and party affiliations.

SSD, why do you think we still have 85,000 troops on the ground in Afghanistan?

 

[ssd]

Well, to read the headline on this link:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2009/03/28/afghan_war_to_take_years_obama_declares/

Buck stops with him, doesn't it? He did make it HIS war in one speech, I believe?

Anyway, I do not blame either side. War is big business.....someone is getting rich off it.

And, I'm just wondering when all the liberals with the "No Blood for Oil" signs will show up protesting the US involvement in Libya? Where is Cindy Sheehan when you really need her?

C'mon - if it's good for the goose then it's good for the gander.

And that is the problem....everyone wants to point the finger at the other side and they forget that in doing so, the country suffers. Christ, did every Republican forget that Democrats are Americans first and vice-versa?

This country is so damn polarized that NO ONE will sit down and try to solve the problems.

 

[Lumi]

War is big business.....someone is getting rich off it.
.

WAR IS A RACKET

Seventy years ago a highly decorated Marine Corps general, disturbed by his participation in various military interventions, declared that WAR IS A RACKET.

 

[Trench]

And, I'm just wondering when all the liberals with the "No Blood for Oil" signs will show up protesting the US involvement in Libya? Where is Cindy Sheehan when you really need her?

This country is so damn polarized that NO ONE will sit down and try to solve the problems.

Perhaps statements like the one above explain, in part, why the country is so polarized? :shrug:

I know the term "chickenhawk" is derisive but it just seems to fit the bill when referring to politicians (and those who support their war games) who are so eager to send American men and women into harms way and cause the death and destruction of so many innocent people because it's "big business".

If the "business" of America is war, we've failed our founding fathers, we've failed our Constitution, and we've failed ourselves.

 

[shawn555]

Seriously does Skull only post the same three or four youtube clips in here?

Its sad when you have zero thoughts of your own.

 

[ssd]

i'm sorry - I did not explain myself fully on that statement, Trench.

I'm trying to point out the hypocrisy that is so evident from both sides.

When Bush was Pres, u had anti-war demonstrators getting headline coverage on the Iraq war - you do not see that today as the US under Obama is engaged in Afghanistan and perhaps, soon, Libya.

If the problem under Bush was "blood for oil" then it should still be the same problem under Obama....otherwise, they were just protesting Bush.

When Bush was Pres, oil spiked up and Republicans said nothing but Democrats screamed bloody murder....now, today, the situation is somewhat reversed.

Each 'side' uses current events in their own propaganda until it is no longer useful, usually 2 or 4 years, depending on if it is Congressional or Executive....

 

[Cie]

i'm sorry - I did not explain myself fully on that statement, Trench.

I'm trying to point out the hypocrisy that is so evident from both sides.

When Bush was Pres, u had anti-war demonstrators getting headline coverage on the Iraq war - you do not see that today as the US under Obama is engaged in Afghanistan and perhaps, soon, Libya.

If the problem under Bush was "blood for oil" then it should still be the same problem under Obama....otherwise, they were just protesting Bush.

When Bush was Pres, oil spiked up and Republicans said nothing but Democrats screamed bloody murder....now, today, the situation is somewhat reversed.

Each 'side' uses current events in their own propaganda until it is no longer useful, usually 2 or 4 years, depending on if it is Congressional or Executive....

Exactly