Who said--

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Which grifter said--

A: "The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."

B: War without congressional authorization should warrant impeachment.

Answers
A - Obama
B-Biden

opcorn2

 

[Duff Miver]

Which grifter said--

A: "The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."

B: War without congressional authorization should warrant impeachment.

Answers
A - Obama
B-Biden

opcorn2

Lots of folks have said that, starting in 1791. The question is - which of them have the balls to stand up and be counted?

The only two presently in congress I can think of are one R, Ron Paul, and one D, Dennis Kucinich, both of whom are seen as oddballs by the majority who sit in front of their TV sets, a Bud in one hand and a John Wayne poster on the wall, cheering "Go gettum boys....uuuurp!"

Now a question for you, doggie - how loudly did YOU protest Bush's illegal invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan?

Lemme' guess - your response was to swill another Bud, right?

 

[Skulnik]

Which grifter said--

A: "The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation."

B: War without congressional authorization should warrant impeachment.

Answers
A - Obama
B-Biden

opcorn2

OBAMA= LIAR.

:0074

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Another Classic Grift--Who said


"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. ... Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that 'the buck stops here.' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem."
-Obama- 2006 :facepalm:

 

[StevieD]

Another Classic Grift--Who said


"The fact that we are here today to debate raising America's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. ... Increasing America's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that 'the buck stops here.' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem."
-Obama- 2006 :facepalm:

And what did you say when Bush was turning the surplus into dept and was invading countries for no aparent reason?

 

[Chadman]

None of this was considered grifting back then. It was understandable conservative political behavior and decision-making when Bush was president.

 

[StevieD]

None of this was considered grifting back then. It was understandable conservative political behavior and decision-making when Bush was president.

Not that I agree with how the money was spent but in Obama's defense a lot of his addition to the debt was to bail out those who businesses failed during the Bush Administration and to keep Bush's useless and improperly fought wars going. No love lost here for Obama as I consider him just an extension of Bush but let us not rewrite history. It was only three years ago. We all know the condition of the country whem Bush left.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

I see--O is just starting next term campaign and -

we still have the ole

IT WAS BOOOOSH


Ya all carry on---

 

[StevieD]

I see--O is just starting next term campaign and -

we still have the ole

IT WAS BOOOOSH


Ya all carry on---

Well it was.

Ok now here is what you are trying to cover up and in the process destroying America. Obama has been a tremendous failure because he did not do what he said he was going to do. But what is he a failure in? He is a failure in reversing the damage done by your boy Bush! Now it would be nice if you could admit that and get on the side of America. Instead of talking out of both sides of your mouth.

 

[ssd]

StevieD:
Stimulus Plan was entirely Obama and was/is a horrible plan. TARP was signed off by both Bush and Obama.

Continually raising the debt ceiling is so so stupid. It's like your bookie constantly raising your credit as you lose so that you can keep losing, knowing that he won't collect either way.

Anyway - the "where were you when Bush was doing this...." argument is getting tired.

The deficit under Bush (8 years) increased $4.9T. In one year under Obama, it increased $3T.

There is cause for concern. Rather than saying, "well, Bush did it...", let's find common ground and say enough is enough. It's time for both parties to stop doing it and get us back on a path to fiscal solvency.

 

[StevieD]

StevieD:
Stimulus Plan was entirely Obama and was/is a horrible plan. TARP was signed off by both Bush and Obama.

Continually raising the debt ceiling is so so stupid. It's like your bookie constantly raising your credit as you lose so that you can keep losing, knowing that he won't collect either way.

Anyway - the "where were you when Bush was doing this...." argument is getting tired.

The deficit under Bush (8 years) increased $4.9T. In one year under Obama, it increased $3T.

There is cause for concern. Rather than saying, "well, Bush did it...", let's find common ground and say enough is enough. It's time for both parties to stop doing it and get us back on a path to fiscal solvency.

I can't argue with what you say but Obama grew the deficit to try to dig out of the mess Bush made. I agree that it should not be an argument. But it is something we have to address bbefore we vote the bastards that created the problem back in. Like I said Obama has been nothing but a repeat of Bush. A Bush third term if you will. This idiot Dogs, as well as others, is trying to say the deficit is Obama's fault. Which is only partly true.

 

[ssd]

The deficit is OUR fault - the US voters who vote these frauds in.

Too many people care more about pop culture than how the US is doing; too many people have their head in the sand.

Say what you will about the Tea Party - I am glad they are engaged; educating them about the real issues is important.

 

[Duff Miver]

The deficit is OUR fault - the US voters who vote these frauds in.

Too many people care more about pop culture than how the US is doing; too many people have their head in the sand.

Say what you will about the Tea Party - I am glad they are engaged; educating them about the real issues is important.

Yes, yes and yes.

 

[StevieD]

The deficit is OUR fault - the US voters who vote these frauds in.

Too many people care more about pop culture than how the US is doing; too many people have their head in the sand.

Say what you will about the Tea Party - I am glad they are engaged; educating them about the real issues is important.

Only partly true. We voted for change! We did not get it but we voted for it. So what's next? It will not be long before we take to the streets to fight the evil Neocons that have a very solid hold on control. As witnessed by the Obama debacle, we can vote for change al we want but if they don't give it to us what's next? What makes you think the Neocons are not running the Tea Baggers?

 

[ssd]

hahahaha - you voted for CHANGE?

:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

Did he ever really explain what that CHANGE was?

Sounds great as a campaign slogan but that is all it was. If you fell for that, well, then, read my post above and realize why we are where we are now.

no offense intended.

 

[StevieD]

hahahaha - you voted for CHANGE?

:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

Did he ever really explain what that CHANGE was?

Sounds great as a campaign slogan but that is all it was. If you fell for that, well, then, read my post above and realize why we are where we are now.

no offense intended.

Well I certainly was not going to vote for more of the same? So what was wrong with voting for Change? We ended up with more of the same and look where it got us. You see, I do not understand your thinking. You think that all the policies that got us into this mess were good and you want to laugh at those who want change?
The problem is not the Welfare Mother getting enough money to barely survive. It is the CEO of Ford giving himself a 56 Million Dollar bonus. And all the rest of them. Until you are willing to tax those and put a limit on them you are just spinning your wheels.

 

[Trench]

Some REAL numbers for you proponents of Supply Side Economics:

As of the close of the 2010 fiscal year, Republican Supply Side Economics are directly responsible for more than $12 Trillion of our National Debt.

1981-1993: Reagan and Bush 41 add $3.4 Trillion to the National Debt.

1993-2001: $2.2 Trillion is added to the National Debt under Clinton; however, the entire $2.2 Trillion is interest on the Reagan-Bush 41 debt.

2001-2009: Bush 43 adds $6.1 Trillion to the National Debt, although again, a significant amount of that was interest on the Reagan/Bush 41 debt.

1993-2010: The interest on the Reagan/Bush 41 debt of $3.4 Trillion compounds to $4.8 Trillion, making Reagan/Bush 41 responsible for $8.2 Trillion in National Debt.

2001-2010: If you subtract the interest compounded from the Reagan/Bush 41 debt during Bush 43's administration, but add the actual debt and interest on that debt since, Bush 43 is responsible for adding $3.8 Trillion to the National Debt.

If you add the $8.2 Trillion in debt that Reagan/Bush 41 are responsible for to the $3.8 Trillion in debt that Bush 43 is responsible for, that means that Supply Side Economics account for $12 Trillion of our National Debt and the interest on that debt is compounding daily.

opcorn2

 

[Trench]

hahahaha - you voted for CHANGE?

:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

So who did you vote for, SSD? :shrug:

 

[ssd]

i voted for HOPE -

:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

The point I was making is the statement is too broad. It was not and has not been defined ( in my mind)

I did not support the Bush economic policies.
I did not support TARP
I did not support the Stimulus plan

I support fiscal responsibility. Spending less than income. Reducing benefits (as needed) as well as increasing taxes. Removing corporate and personal tax loopholes. Ending subsidies. Ending lobbying.
Ending the war on drugs as well as the war on poverty - we have failed on both accounts.

Find me a candidate who will work on these and I will follow.

Governor Gary Johnson is one to watch

 

[ssd]

and I forgot, the most important.

Ending the FED.