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I'm learning from you all! To provide lovely images!
I'm learning from you all! To provide lovely images!
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I guess I misjudged you Terryray. Turns out you're just another guy whose sense of common decency, tolerance and compassion are undermined by your core fears and prejudices... you know... a Republican. :142smilie
The thought occurs to me in the occasional blurring if the point of this in this thread, that I suppose we should tear down a large amount of Catholic Churches in this country that are located anywhere near public places or especially near schools, because hundreds (if not more) priests have committed sex crimes against children. Or at least, no more should be built in the country, to protect children and the morals of one particular religion.
I think the specific that the mosque is located three blocks away is an important point in this, and one that is hidden by those who oppose it - or at least is not known to the majority that oppose it.
I think it's sad that the originator of this post used the "Hussein" card with no reference to an actual headline using that name. It's of course possible there was one on the fringe right wing zenophobe sites, but no evidence of one... just Wayne throwing it in there for sad effect. Not surprising, just sad.
I do think it important to follow the money on this, and understand the bad taste issue. But if we ran every project through the bad taste tester before approving it, I doubt a lot of projects would be okayed in this country. I also note the indignity shown by some here to are devout believers in city and states rights, and those of local areas to determine what is appropriate for that area - and the mayor of the town is quite supportive of it. Interesting, when these rights are so important to some of you, and apparently dismissed when you feel YOU have been so wronged...
Prayer at school sporting events is probably something best not done, considering the church and state situation. Maybe at a private school, I can see that. But not one particular prayer, that can in no way speak for all the students, faculty, staff, parents and attendees at an event. The two issues are nowhere near the same, although I know it helps your case to try to make them seem similar.
It IS what makes this country superior to many others, and gives us something to stand on when pretending to be a beacon for the world in our affairs of state. It sends an incredible message that renders much of the hate against our country laughable to anyone remotely objective. And the others? Nothing much you can do about them, anyway, is there? I think we've learned that, what, 11 years ago?
It's a tough situation, and one that evokes a lot of emotion. Unfortunately, much of that emotion is nothing more than simple bigotry and hatred, based on ignorance of the facts and what this country is supposed to be about. Much of it isn't, but much of it is.
I think the specific that the mosque is located three blocks away is an important point in this, and one that is hidden by those who oppose it - or at least is not known to the majority that oppose it.
I think it's sad that the originator of this post used the "Hussein" card with no reference to an actual headline using that name. It's of course possible there was one on the fringe right wing zenophobe sites, but no evidence of one... just Wayne throwing it in there for sad effect. Not surprising, just sad.
I do think it important to follow the money on this, and understand the bad taste issue. But if we ran every project through the bad taste tester before approving it, I doubt a lot of projects would be okayed in this country. I also note the indignity shown by some here to are devout believers in city and states rights, and those of local areas to determine what is appropriate for that area - and the mayor of the town is quite supportive of it. Interesting, when these rights are so important to some of you, and apparently dismissed when you feel YOU have been so wronged...
Prayer at school sporting events is probably something best not done, considering the church and state situation. Maybe at a private school, I can see that. But not one particular prayer, that can in no way speak for all the students, faculty, staff, parents and attendees at an event. The two issues are nowhere near the same, although I know it helps your case to try to make them seem similar.
It IS what makes this country superior to many others, and gives us something to stand on when pretending to be a beacon for the world in our affairs of state. It sends an incredible message that renders much of the hate against our country laughable to anyone remotely objective. And the others? Nothing much you can do about them, anyway, is there? I think we've learned that, what, 11 years ago?
It's a tough situation, and one that evokes a lot of emotion. Unfortunately, much of that emotion is nothing more than simple bigotry and hatred, based on ignorance of the facts and what this country is supposed to be about. Much of it isn't, but much of it is.
What is it about the conservative mindset that makes Republicans so fearful of change, progress and people of different color, creed or lifestyle? :shrug:Assalamu alaikum!
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I was listening to Don Imus this morning and Gary McCord mentioned that what previously stood at the site of the proposed mosque and communtiy center was... get this... a Burlington Coat Factory.
This mosque is a slap in the face to anyone who's ever bought factory overrun coats at discount prices! It's an outrage!!! :142smilie
This mosque is a slap in the face to anyone who's ever bought factory overrun coats at discount prices! It's an outrage!!! :142smilie
yup, needa get out more. Yesterday at store spoke to some local sikhs (big community of 'em here in S. Eugene) who were complaining as they always do that folks mistake them for muslim because of they wear turbans too. I mentioned how I read Ford redesigned their Focus with higher roof level for the Indian market to accomodate the turban! Funny thing is many of the sikhs here drive volvos, for reasons none of them have ever been able to explain to me.
Buddy of mine in Fez had a very popular apt last week 'cause he served tea and food to local freinds all day, didn't have to wait for evening Harira!
but the police are getting more fierce in Maroc during Ramadan, acting last few years more like the Saudi religious police. My friend emailed me that he did leave other day for more foreigner-friendly Essaouira to get some beach sun and seafood...That'd be nice place fo me to get out and visit, Insh'allah!
Actually, the Masjid al-Farah mosque in Tribeca sends their overflow salāt crowds to that old Burlington building right now.
I'm opposed to the mosque now as well. When religion encroaches on consumerism, it's time to draw a line in the sand. And what's more American than buying factory overrun clothing at discount prices? Clothing made by Sri Lankan orphans paid in rice, all hopped up on tea to keep them awake and forced to listen to David Hasselhoff recordings in German. Sure it's brutal but the beauty of capitalism is there's always new third world labor markets to be exploited. Damn, it's good to be an American capitalist! :SIB
Isn't it SAD that she can say it and she get's away with it, really, if Dick Cheney says it, you're OK with it?
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We below -would like to thank our liberal brothers here for their continued support--we would be happy to come to town near you and excercise freedom of relgion. :0008
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We below -would like to thank our liberal brothers here for their continued support--we would be happy to come to town near you and excercise freedom of relgion. :0008
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Radical cleric Abu Bakar Bashir arrived police headquarters in Jakarta on Monday after being arrested on suspicion of having ties to terrorist training activities.
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Radical Muslim cleric Abu Qatada to be deported to Jordan on terror charges
The radical Muslim cleric Abu Qatada can be deported to Jordan where he faces terror charges, the Law Lords have ruled.
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