why do people hate wal-mart so much?

AR182

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dogs, honestly who cares if your the nations largest employer of $8 dollar shitty jobs?

nobody is forcing those people to take those shitty jobs....

the market dictates what a company like walmart should do....

if nobody takes their jobs....they will be forced to change their hiring practices...

if noboy buys their products....they will be forced to change that....

as long as people are taking their jobs & buying their products why should they change...
 

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nobody is forcing those people to take those shitty jobs....

the market dictates what a company like walmart should do....

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By BEING the market and putting everyone else out of business, they ARE forcing people to take those jobs.
 

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By BEING the market and putting everyone else out of business, they ARE forcing people to take those jobs.

i know what you are saying....i grew up in a neighborhood in ny that had all mom & pop stores. i miss that also.....but you can't stop them. nobody is forcing people to buy from them....
 

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dog where did you come up with that number 50 percent? Rush Skeezeball? I belong to a union 5000 strong and never heard one of them complain about this. Maybe it was the excellent pension, vacation, annuity, and savings plan we had along with our solid wage. You might want to check your facts on political forces because my union supported Spector (a republican) every time he ran.
 

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quote hsamsWalmart is a evil, vile corporation----they have put more people out of work than any other corporation in US history-fact......

The actual FACT is the U.S. largest employer----doesn't that mean they put more people to work than anyone:shrug:

FDC a copuple questions please--
Your Union may not--what about unions in general?

Which party do unions support with union dues?

If you have 100,000 workers and 50% vote the other way--why are they forced to have their dues support the other party?

Don't get me wrong--I'm not against unions--I'm trying to tie in why the dogging of walmart and whose behind it.

You see I have hard time understand those so adamantly against Walmart.

You have
--largest employer in U.S.

--largest retailer in the world (must be doing something right)

--Most charitable Corp in U.S.
"America?s Largest Corporate Cash Contributor
"Last year Wal-Mart was recognized by the Chronicle of Philanthropy as the largest corporate cash contributor in America. In 2006, Wal-Mart gave more than $270 million to support its 4,000-plus U.S.-based communities. Charitable contributions from Wal-Mart support a variety of causes and issues in the areas of education, the environment, health and human services, civic and community groups, and culture and the arts."

---and by far the most shopped store in America--so might add a "little" customer satisfaction.

so I'm confused why others pick on this store--

---and amazing those lauding Target over Walmart--you might find this article from Minneapolis Star-Tribune of interest.
http://reclaimdemocracy.org/walmart/2005/target_better.php

Believe you will find Walmart has higher pay and benefits.

--and one more question--if I'm wrong about the dogging being from unions/Dem party--why is it the king dogger of all Wake-Up Walmart is hidden in what sounds like a real org but actual is funded by UFCW union and Paul Blank,who was former politacal directer of Howard"screamin" Dean.
Why try to hide it:shrug:

I would be curious on your perspective on article link FDC--and if you think its credible or bogus and why.


First things first.

Walmart is not the largest "employer" in the US, they are the largest Corporation as in they have the most holdings of any other corporation. The only employees that Walmart has in the U.S are those that work at their stores and storage warehouses. Most of their suppliers are foreign.

As far as the Union questions go,
The UCFW is not an affiliated union by any means they are classified as an association much like AFA, APA etc..... and are not governed by the same restrictions and guidelines as affiliated unions. We are governed by the provisions of the Railway Labor Act which strictly prohibits use of monthly collected dues to be used for political donations of any kind. All monies received are voluntarily submitted without any requirement. That money can then be dispersed as the respective Executive Council sees fit. I was a legislative director for one division of our union for some time and spent many a days on Capitol Hill and trust me when I tell you that I spent more time with the Republicans trying to sway their votes. Yes the majority of the money goes to Democrats however, in some cases such as in Texas, which is a right to work state, it is given to sympathetic Republicans. Now let me ask you this, how much money do you think Walmart donates to political causes? Trust me when I tell you it is exponentially more than ALL the unions put together donate in a single year. Who do you think the largest contributors are? Oil, Energy, and Retail baby.........every time.
As far as them being charitable.........do not go on sheer numbers............try to see who gives the most by percentage of gross revenue and WM fall far down the list.
I cannot speak for UCFW as they are crooks and only want the dues money and are grandstanding for the employees in the hope that they will someday be certified.
 

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From my experience, Union workers are some of the laziest MF'ers I've ever come across. They won't lift a finger to do anything extra. Try to make them and they'll tell you to fuk off and go talk to their Union Rep. A friend of mine just got hired on with the RailRoad, first thing all the old timers told him is to "NOT" be anxious to be the first one to do something. If he does, they'll run his ass off. Was like that when I worked on a construction site also. Like I said, this is from my experience, I'm sure there are some that work an honest day for an honest days pay, but for the majority it simply is not the case with Union workers.
 

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From my experience, Union workers are some of the laziest MF'ers I've ever come across. They won't lift a finger to do anything extra. Try to make them and they'll tell you to fuk off and go talk to their Union Rep. A friend of mine just got hired on with the RailRoad, first thing all the old timers told him is to "NOT" be anxious to be the first one to do something. If he does, they'll run his ass off. Was like that when I worked on a construction site also. Like I said, this is from my experience, I'm sure there are some that work an honest day for an honest days pay, but for the majority it simply is not the case with Union workers.

maybe city workers but if your talking about the trade unions you are totally full of shit.
 

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From my experience, Union workers are some of the laziest MF'ers I've ever come across. They won't lift a finger to do anything extra. Try to make them and they'll tell you to fuk off and go talk to their Union Rep. A friend of mine just got hired on with the RailRoad, first thing all the old timers told him is to "NOT" be anxious to be the first one to do something. If he does, they'll run his ass off. Was like that when I worked on a construction site also. Like I said, this is from my experience, I'm sure there are some that work an honest day for an honest days pay, but for the majority it simply is not the case with Union workers.


First of all I highly doubt that you have "come across" many union workers. That being said, lets ask just a couple of questions.
How many times have you been "let go"?
Any of those union positions?
How many, exactly, union workers do you know that are willing to let you speak for them. I represent 93,000, not alone of course, and that means that you must personally have observed 47,000 union employees being the laziest mother fuhkers you know. I am guessing that, besides the one or two that kicked you around for the few days you hauled shit around at the construction site, you don't know more than two personally. Not including the new guy at the railroad. If he is so worried about his lot in life get my e-mail from Jack and give me his name as the "railroad" along with all transportation industries is exactly the men and women that I represent and I promise you I will help your "union" pal out with his dilemna.

In the meantime, I am sure you have better things to do than to spout off ignorance. Also, please don't burn the fries, I hate that, you know, when pimple faced "playas" have too much going on in their life, like their iPod to pay attention to the minimum wage assistant floor manager position duties. So party on Garth, I am sure you will have another stupendously intelligent comment to make soon enough.
 

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Hey flightless bird fan,

Earlier in another post you posted the following directly to me;


So at which point are you lying now or then ..............Liar. Thank you for speaking...........for a minute I just thought you were a complete idiot, thank goodness you finally removed any doubt for everybody...........liar.

Answering your question though Liar, I do not get a car allowance I bought my vehicle from Five Star Ford in October of last year. Also I have worked for twenty years in this profession and have just recently ascended to the rank of International Representative of more than 93,000 members. Funny thing is liar, I was elected at large to that position with a majority vote of just shy of 89% with a no show factor of 4% so I am not only proud of that, as I should be, but I am also proud of the sparkling track record that I provided in arbitration cases.
So in closing let me assure you of some things. One, we have already established that you are a liar and that leaves you absolutely zero right to question my integrity concerning business matters. Mostly because you are a liar.

Two, I still work and have done so for close to thirty years so, I am happy that you were able to secure some sort of union job somewhere that certainly pays you far more than a normal miserable fuhkin lying wretch would get paid.

If you would ever like to compare credentials and anything else for that matter you just let me know. I am positively sure that you get sick time, I mean after all, you are union, right?

Just one more thing "Clerical Workers"? Certainly not an AFL-CIO union.

Spoken like a true union rep, for sure.

Let's get this much straight, as far as the "Ignore" thing, well I guess if you were on my ignore list I wouldn't have seen the original question in the first place, huh, think about it, it will all make sense. So I must have been joking in that other thread.

As far as your response above, like I said, typical union guy, if you can't reason your way through something then you insult your way through it.

If that ain't enough then what? You gonna go "Soprano's" on me?
 

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Ive worked tor 2 places that were union (Teamsters)and I would never do it again. 1st place (12 Drivers) I didnt even make it to the 90 day mark to join before the union forced the owner out of business. They went out on strike over there pension. I went with them even though I wasnt in the union because I dont believe in crossing picket lines. By the end of the 1st day the issue had been resolved and the idiots refused to go back to work until the owner paid them for the day they were out on strike. Within a week the owner lost the contract for what we were hauling and was forced to close his business up.

2nd place..Made it passed the 90 probationary stage and joined. (Teamsters again) Quit that one when I found out the union wanted me to pay 2 months towards my medical ins ($400) but I couldnt use it till the 3rd month. They called it a buy in for med ins. This was after I had paid the buy in to just join the union. 6 months after I quit the company was bought out and the place was closed.

I personnaly dont feel I have to pay someone (unions) monthly to have a job. I know how good I can do my job and I know my work ethic. If I ever screwed up at work I wouldnt need anyone to stand up for me. I can do that on my own. If a job didnt pay what I thought it should I didnt take it.
I now work at a non-union place where the turnover rate is less than 5%. That is extremely rare for the trucking industry.

No matter how much of a ****up you are...if you are at a union shop the union will do everything it can to make sure you dont lose your job. Why should any company have to put up with that. I believe that is where a lot of people are turned off against unions.
 

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Thanks FDC--appreciate your reply and clears a few points up--as I said I am not against unions in general--and from your info maybe I shouldn't have lumped all unions in general--the fact does remain unions are dems main financial supporter and I still believe Walmart is largest employer and yahoo appears to agree--
http://ask.yahoo.com/20040802.html

--and I believe the links and data pointed out would not make my initial statement irresponsible by any means--
 
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