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Women voters aren't warming to 'cool' Obama

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BY CAROL MARIN Sun-Times Columnist

The Obama campaign has a woman problem. How big? How small? It's not clear, but in a close election, small can be big.

And Michelle Obama spoke to it Monday in Chicago.

Departing from her prepared remarks, she cautioned a ballroom of applauding "Women for Obama" that despite their unwavering support, "there's a whole country out there that still needs a little convincing."

You wouldn't have known it from this mostly well-dressed, mostly well-heeled crowd. Many of the women, black and white, young and old, were early donors who gave money back when Barack Obama was a long shot, and they were gladly giving again now. A lovely lunch of organic chicken prepared by a renowned chef, Alice Waters, brought in somewhere between $400,000 and $700,000 for the Obama Victory fund.

But the women Obama needs right now are the ones who do not dine downtown. They're the ones who can't afford organic anything, forced to choose between a gallon of gas and a gallon of milk because they can't buy both on the same day.

Women like Sarah.

A few hours after leaving the "Women for Obama" luncheon, I ran into Sarah, not her real name. I've known her for a few years. A single mom, she free-lances, working as many jobs as she can to support two growing boys. She dreams of a permanent gig with benefits, but it's still just a dream.

A 37-year-old Democrat, she is also a college grad and a news junkie who has watched this campaign like a hawk. She surprised me with her anger Tuesday, saying she's voting for McCain.

To Sarah, Barack Obama is like the organic chicken at lunch. Sleek, elegant, beautifully prepared. Too cool.

Though both Obamas have spoken often and in great personal detail of their own humble beginnings, of Michelle's hardworking blue-collar dad and Barack's struggling single mom on food stamps, it somehow hasn't sold Sarah. You might ask if she was a die-hard Clinton supporter. The answer is yes, a supporter, but die-hard? Not really.

At the luncheon, I'd asked women if there was still a sizable breach between the Clinton and Obama camps.

Most told me not anymore, that on issues of choice, national health insurance and gender parity of wages, Clinton supporters know they have far more differences with Republican John McCain than they do with Obama. And Republican women, including Paula Wolff, who for 14 years was in the high command of Republican Gov. James R. Thompson, were there to demonstrate that Obama has crossover appeal, too.

"The Supreme Court," said Wolff. "I think for most women when they walk into the voting booth, that will be the first thing on their minds."

Some of the numbers bear that out. The July 15 Quinnipiac University poll shows women overall backed Obama over McCain 55 percent to 36 percent. Then again, the margin was far smaller among independent women, who preferred Obama by just three points, 45 percent to 42 percent. And finally, there's that Clinton problem. The Associated Press/Yahoo News "found that just 12 percent of former Clinton supporters say they are excited about Obama."

It seems pretty clear that if Obama is not going to pick Clinton as his running mate, he'd better not pick a woman at all. That, Sarah made clear in our conversation Tuesday, would be unfair.

The Obamas, for their part, have in recent weeks spoken warmly and respectfully of Hillary Clinton and she of them. On Monday, Mrs. Obama called Sen. Clinton an "extraordinary woman" and added she was "thrilled to welcome Dana Singiser to the campaign as our new senior adviser for women."

Singiser, who worked for Clinton's campaign and Senate office before that, told me Tuesday by phone, "We're working really hard for all women voters and leaving no stone unturned."

They may need to try offering more macaroni and cheese.
 

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this election is so f-cking strange,it`s almost absurd...

democratic women abandoning the democratic party because hillary was "slighted"....

evangelicals claiming they`ll stay home if mitt romney is mccain`s veep selection(cause he`s a fricking mormon)......

blacks blindly voting based on race...

wtf is going on?....if this is all true and not just whiny assed bullshit, it looks like the the polarization of america is almost complete...

significant blocs on the left and right perfectly willing to piss on the nation as a whole to maintain their irrational hatreds.....

god help us....
 

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this election is so f-cking strange,it`s almost absurd...

democratic women abandoning the democratic party because hillary was "slighted"....

evangelicals claiming they`ll stay home if mitt romney is mccain`s veep selection(cause he`s a fricking mormon)......

blacks blindly voting based on race...

wtf is going on?....if this is all true and not just whiny assed bullshit, it looks like the the polarization of america is almost complete...

significant blocs on the left and right perfectly willing to piss on the nation as a whole to maintain their irrational hatreds.....

god help us....

:rimshot
There you go, being funny again!
 

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:rimshot
There you go, being funny again!

:shrug: ...think about it....you`re a hillary backer...obviously against the iraq war...you`re interested in a woman`s right to choose...etc,etc...

yet,you disregard your core beliefs because the party that shares those beliefs doesn`t nominate the "woman" you wanted?...

evangelicals?....ah, yes, because having mormon mitt romney as a VP would be so much worse than obama as president for the evangelical's core issues?....

do these people ever ****ing think?....
 

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OBAMA?S WOMEN PROBLEM

By DICK MORRIS

Published on TheHill.com on July 29, 2008.

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If soccer moms determined the outcome of the 1996 presidential race and security moms tipped the balance in 2004, it is beginning to look as if older moms are the key to the 2008 contest. Obama has a problem among women over 40 and a big problem among women over 50. These groups, normally the staunchest of Democratic supporters, are showing a propensity to back McCain and a disinclination to support Obama.

According to the latest Fox News survey, Obama is winning among women under 40 by 13 points, but McCain is winning among women aged 41-45 by four points. Among women 50 and over, McCain is three points ahead. Obama?s 48-35 lead among women under 40 is normal for a Democrat, but to trail among women in their 40s by 45-41 and by women over 50 by 38-35 is extraordinary.

The problem is that older women don?t like Obama as much as younger women do. While 70 percent of women under 40 have a favorable opinion of the Democratic candidate, only 58 percent of women in their 40s feel the same way, and only 52 percent of those over 50 see him favorably.

For a Democrat to be losing among women over 40 is without precedent in the past 20 years.


In fact, the gap between male and female voting preference in this election is far lower than it normally is. Among people under 40, men back Obama by eight points and women support him by 13. Among those in their 40s, men back McCain by 11 points and women support him by four. And for those over 50, men vote for the Republican by a nine-point margin while women prefer him by three points.

Usually, the gender gap runs at least 10 points in each age group and, more usually, averages a 15-point differential. The lower gap in this race does not indicate any special popularity for McCain or negatives on Obama among men. Men are voting the way they usually do. It?s women who are making the big difference and keeping this race tied.

Part of the problem may stem from Obama?s defeat of Hillary Clinton during the primaries. Hillary drew her strongest support from older women who still remembered the sexism of their youth and their struggles to pierce the glass ceiling. For younger women, sexism has much less personal relevance and they were less drawn to her candidacy.

But a bigger problem may be a cultural alienation older white women feel toward Obama. The Rev. Jeremiah Wright may linger as a worry in their increasingly gray heads as they contemplate an Obama presidency. This fear of the unknown and the gap they seem to feel with Obama is so strong that it is overcoming their normal proclivity to back Democrats.

Of course, McCain is a uniquely attractive candidate to the Democratic and independent base. Long regarded as a maverick Republican, he attracts these swing voters and is ideally positioned to exploit the estrangement between older women and Barack Obama.

Would choosing Hillary as a running mate assuage the concerns of older white women? It might.

They could get enthusiastic, one would think, about seeing a woman sitting a few feet away from the president in the Oval Office (again!).

But Hillary would bring with her a different set of problems. Her candidacy would invite scrutiny of Bill?s financial dealings, most recently exposed in The Wall Street Journal?s coverage of the incredible corruption of his buddy the president of Kazakhstan.

The problem is Obama. And it can only be solved by Obama, not by his running mate. For his part, McCain should take dead aim at this demographic, perhaps by selecting a female running mate who would appeal to them.

The current favorite, Mitt Romney, does him no earthly good with these folks, and his Mormonism is likely to be a big turnoff. But McCain could choose Condi Rice or any number of other Republican women (like Kay Bailey Hutchison, the Texas senator) and attract these dissident women.
 

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But Hillary would bring with her a different set of problems. Her candidacy would invite scrutiny of Bill?s financial dealings, most recently exposed in The Wall Street Journal?s coverage of the incredible corruption of his buddy the president of Kazakhstan.

the gift that keeps on giving

:mj07:
 

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:shrug: ...think about it....you`re a hillary backer...obviously against the iraq war...you`re interested in a woman`s right to choose...etc,etc...

yet,you disregard your core beliefs because the party that shares those beliefs doesn`t nominate the "woman" you wanted?...

evangelicals?....ah, yes, because having mormon mitt romney as a VP would be so much worse than obama as president for the evangelical's core issues?....

do these people ever ****ing think?....

Think about this: The article is exaggerating.
 

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Think about this: The article is exaggerating.

the article?........did you even read what "I" wrote?...

with all the cut and paste in this forum,somebody actually takes the time to think through and make a point that`s very bi-partisan,and you commented without even reading it?...

/:sleep:
 

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the article?........did you even read what "I" wrote?...

with all the cut and paste in this forum,somebody actually takes the time to think through and make a point that`s very bi-partisan,and you commented without even reading it?...

/:sleep:

I read it. You were doing the comedic effect thing again, right?
 

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My goofy-ass sister did this.

God help us, indeed.

There is a lot of this going on. Some woman are the most spiteful people around. I know a few girls who have the same exact feelings. Throw in the race card and 527 and i wouldn't be shocked one bit if McCain wins. Only the Democrats could put so many votes in doubts.
 

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you guys are all falling for the hype. chicks will come around - they are just pouting right now. bock's got 99 problems, but the bitch aint one.
 

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you guys are all falling for the hype. chicks will come around - they are just pouting right now. bock's got 99 problems, but the bitch aint one.
You mean Jack, Judge, and myself are dreaming this stuff up? My buddy who owns a bar says the exact same stuff. A scorn woman is a scary women:scared


By the way Smurph fox News pulled the picture of Osama with Obama's name underneath again. Can't figure out why they can't get this straighten out:shrug:
 

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You mean Jack, Judge, and myself are dreaming this stuff up? My buddy who owns a bar says the exact same stuff. A scorn woman is a scary women:scared


By the way Smurph fox News pulled the picture of Osama with Obama's name underneath again. Can't figure out why they can't get this straighten out:shrug:

basically, an issue is being made that won't exist in a few months. these broads sure as hell aint votin for mccain. they will be bored in november and it will be rationalized in their minds that they may as well vote for for "change".

as for fox, they are desperate and they are doing nothing but reafirming the texas vote for mccain. i don't think their petty antics work in any other state that matters anymore.

this election will go to obama. there is no way around that.;) every article posted or report broadcasted is just to falsely keep people interested and get ratings. we all know what's happening, it's just a matter of facing the obvious.
 
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