Nick I'll answer you the same way as I did last Politically Correct person that said bout the same on projects trying to distill the fact he was not prejudice.
I told him I'd come to Cincinnati take him out to any restaurant of his choice on the eve of halloween--but before we went to eat I'd have option to drop his kids off in any area of my choice to trick or treat and drop his wife off at bar of my choice. We would pick them up after we ate.
He, as with you was gung ho on talking the the talk but unwilling to walk the walk.
No offense to you as I like your attitude but the way we want things to be or think they should be are often far from reality.
---and on Taliban and Afgan--they did not scare me but the fact they provided opportunity for terrorist to train unabated did. N korea does not scare me a bit as they will never be able to send nukes here via air---but them selling them to terrorist to use over here is a concern. I think China will be our biggest ally as they do NOT like them having Nukes next door however the only reason they have not shut them down in my opinion is that staying on the fence gives them ace in hole on leverage against U.S. in Taiwan situation.
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DJV In answer to another one of your generalizations
"So Trying to act like there this great group of counties over there BS."
"At this time, 27 countries, in addition to the United States, have contributed a total of approximately 21,700 troops to ongoing stability operations in Iraq. These 27 are Albania, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Denmark, the Dominican Republic, Georgia, El Salvador, Estonia, Honduras, Hungary, Italy, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Mongolia, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, Norway, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, South Korea, Spain, Ukraine, and the United Kingdom.
In addition to the 27 countries with forces already on the ground in Iraq, four others (Moldova, the Philippines, Portugal, and Thailand) have committed to providing troops.
Fourteen other countries are currently considering whether to provide forces for Iraq"
So once again you prove that spin is the lefts best friend and facts their worst enemy--but you are in good company
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"Some Facts Go Missing
Friday, January 23, 2004
WASHINGTON ? Wesley Clark (search) left a few things out Thursday when he defended his Democratic credentials; namely, the Republicans he's supported for president.
"I voted for Bill Clinton and Al Gore," the retired general said in a Democratic presidential debate Thursday, then stopped there. He also has said previously that he voted for Republicans including Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan and the first George Bush.
Stories not fully told were part of the story of the night.
John Kerry (search), a Vietnam veteran who addressed his days as a protest leader against that war, talked about how "we camped on the Mall underneath the Congress," although accounts of that April 1971 demonstration had him staying in a friend's Georgetown town house most nights while the masses stayed in tents.
Kerry spokesman David DiMartino said Kerry did sleep on the Mall and used the Georgetown house for protest organizing during the day.
Some of the characterizations of legislation were arguable.
Sen. John Edwards (search), voicing his objections to the Defense of Marriage Act signed by President Clinton in 1996, said it "took away the power of states ... to be able to do what they chose to do" about gay civil unions." He said, "I think these are decisions that the states should have the power to make."
States have that option under the law. The act allows states to refuse to honor same-sex unions performed outside their boundaries, but also lets them legalize the unions if they want. It specifies that such unions would not be recognized by the federal government.
Edwards did, however, acknowledge "I don't claim to be an expert on this."
Kerry flatly accused President Bush of "pushing seniors off of Medicare into HMOs."
The new prescription drug program subsidizes costs for low-income patients and encourages private insurance companies to offer coverage for the elderly willing to opt out of traditional Medicare. It does not force seniors off of Medicare.
Howard Dean (search), as he does routinely, stated that 60 percent of taxpayers only got $304 on average from Bush's tax cuts. That calculation applies to the lowest earning 60 percent of taxpayers -- many of whom pay little or no federal income tax to begin with. Middle income earners, especially those with children, saved substantially more than that from the lowering of income tax rates across the board.
Also in the debate, Clark was asked to account for his assertions earlier in the campaign that he would prevent another terrorist attack from happening like that of Sept. 11, 2001. "I never used the word 'guarantee," he said.
Clark's assurances, however, were close to categorical.
"If I'm president of the United States, I'm going to take care of the American people," Clark was quoted by the Concord Monitor in New Hampshire earlier this month. "We are not going to have one of these incidents."
I told him I'd come to Cincinnati take him out to any restaurant of his choice on the eve of halloween--but before we went to eat I'd have option to drop his kids off in any area of my choice to trick or treat and drop his wife off at bar of my choice. We would pick them up after we ate.
He, as with you was gung ho on talking the the talk but unwilling to walk the walk.
No offense to you as I like your attitude but the way we want things to be or think they should be are often far from reality.
---and on Taliban and Afgan--they did not scare me but the fact they provided opportunity for terrorist to train unabated did. N korea does not scare me a bit as they will never be able to send nukes here via air---but them selling them to terrorist to use over here is a concern. I think China will be our biggest ally as they do NOT like them having Nukes next door however the only reason they have not shut them down in my opinion is that staying on the fence gives them ace in hole on leverage against U.S. in Taiwan situation.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
DJV In answer to another one of your generalizations
"So Trying to act like there this great group of counties over there BS."
"At this time, 27 countries, in addition to the United States, have contributed a total of approximately 21,700 troops to ongoing stability operations in Iraq. These 27 are Albania, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Denmark, the Dominican Republic, Georgia, El Salvador, Estonia, Honduras, Hungary, Italy, Kazakhstan, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Mongolia, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, Norway, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, South Korea, Spain, Ukraine, and the United Kingdom.
In addition to the 27 countries with forces already on the ground in Iraq, four others (Moldova, the Philippines, Portugal, and Thailand) have committed to providing troops.
Fourteen other countries are currently considering whether to provide forces for Iraq"
So once again you prove that spin is the lefts best friend and facts their worst enemy--but you are in good company
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"Some Facts Go Missing
Friday, January 23, 2004
WASHINGTON ? Wesley Clark (search) left a few things out Thursday when he defended his Democratic credentials; namely, the Republicans he's supported for president.
"I voted for Bill Clinton and Al Gore," the retired general said in a Democratic presidential debate Thursday, then stopped there. He also has said previously that he voted for Republicans including Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan and the first George Bush.
Stories not fully told were part of the story of the night.
John Kerry (search), a Vietnam veteran who addressed his days as a protest leader against that war, talked about how "we camped on the Mall underneath the Congress," although accounts of that April 1971 demonstration had him staying in a friend's Georgetown town house most nights while the masses stayed in tents.
Kerry spokesman David DiMartino said Kerry did sleep on the Mall and used the Georgetown house for protest organizing during the day.
Some of the characterizations of legislation were arguable.
Sen. John Edwards (search), voicing his objections to the Defense of Marriage Act signed by President Clinton in 1996, said it "took away the power of states ... to be able to do what they chose to do" about gay civil unions." He said, "I think these are decisions that the states should have the power to make."
States have that option under the law. The act allows states to refuse to honor same-sex unions performed outside their boundaries, but also lets them legalize the unions if they want. It specifies that such unions would not be recognized by the federal government.
Edwards did, however, acknowledge "I don't claim to be an expert on this."
Kerry flatly accused President Bush of "pushing seniors off of Medicare into HMOs."
The new prescription drug program subsidizes costs for low-income patients and encourages private insurance companies to offer coverage for the elderly willing to opt out of traditional Medicare. It does not force seniors off of Medicare.
Howard Dean (search), as he does routinely, stated that 60 percent of taxpayers only got $304 on average from Bush's tax cuts. That calculation applies to the lowest earning 60 percent of taxpayers -- many of whom pay little or no federal income tax to begin with. Middle income earners, especially those with children, saved substantially more than that from the lowering of income tax rates across the board.
Also in the debate, Clark was asked to account for his assertions earlier in the campaign that he would prevent another terrorist attack from happening like that of Sept. 11, 2001. "I never used the word 'guarantee," he said.
Clark's assurances, however, were close to categorical.
"If I'm president of the United States, I'm going to take care of the American people," Clark was quoted by the Concord Monitor in New Hampshire earlier this month. "We are not going to have one of these incidents."
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