My take on the game..........(long take)

[Scott4USC]

I have not watched game yet on TV but this is my take.

Both teams played great and both teams played sloppy. Texas was equally as sloppy as USC but they covered their mistakes.Texas must have had at least 5 fumbles and only lost 1 of them. ON game winning drive Young almost threw an INT to USC DB. THAT IS BEING LUCKY! No doubt. Often you need luck and the breaks to go your way. They went Texas way. I knew turnovers was the #1 key for USC winning and USC had 2 and Texas had 1. Game set match. Bush turnover was gift and Texas earned their INT against Leinart.

Texas should have had 4 more pts. (missed XP and FG) Congrats on making 46 yard FG too. TOUGH!

USC should have had min. 9 more pts or max. 21 more pts. Bush stupid fumble, Leinart INT, and Leinart not getting 4th and inches in 1h was the biggest difference in this game. YOU FAWK UP LIKE THAT AND YOU DESERVE TO LOSE! I am just glad USC battled back after that 1h performance. USC easily could have blown out Texas the way they blew out OU. It was right there for the taking. USC fawked themselves. You can't do that against a great team in Texas. That 11pt 4th q lead should have and needed to be a 17+pt lead. USC easily could have accomplished that. SUCKS for USC fans/backers.

If USC did not play this poorly in 1h, USC would have easily scored 50+ pts and prob. in the 60's. Guess what! Texas would have scored 50+ pts too. Not 41 but 50+. USC would and should have jumped on Texas in 1q going up 17-21pts. Guess what. Texas would have went to passing attack and when Texas did that, VY became a machine. An absolute MACHINE! That is when the USC D looked like $hit. It was after Texas got down 11 and went to air attack.

All in all. USC D couldn't stop Texas and Texas D couldn't stop USC. I don't think it was bad defense, it was just absolutely great offense both sides of ball.

I questioned the speed of Texas. I was wrong. Texas D was very fast and neutralized USC speed advantage on offense. Texas O was VY who is super fast. Made USC's D look slow. Can't believe USC lost to 1 player but they did. PROPS TO YOUNG! Everyone on Texas O played well, but VY put them over the top and yet it barely put them over the top. VY is a special special player who was phenomenal in the game.

I thought Texas D was great and maybe the best D USC faced in their 34 game run. Texas couldn't stop USC but USC couldn't make homerun plays against them. Texas made USC earn everything they got and that is why I am so impressed with Texas D. Very impressive performance even though they could not stop USC. But that was prob. the best D USC faced. USC could have easily put up 50+ on Texas and I still would have said Texas D prob. was the best USC faced. Very fast and great tacklers.

I said White was going to dominate Texas D and he did that. Unfortunately, USC did not go to him enough in 1h. Why? I don't know. Bonehead USC coaching staff. I thought USC did great job coaching and they put USC players in position to BLOW OUT Texas. It was USC players who fawked up. But USC coaching staff did not use White enough in 1h and that prob. lost USC the game. Texas never was going to stop White when mixed in with passing.

I am glad USC went for it 4th and 2. Texas stopped USC by 2 inches. I'll take that anytime. This game was decided by 2 inches. When Texas got the ball after that, I knew they were going to drive down the field and it was 60/40 Texas advantage in scoring game winning TD. To my surprise, USC did hold them to 4th and 5 and USC failed to make the INT against Young.

All in all, Texas and USC played great. I think it is quite clear USC lost the game themselves. The Bush fumble was like the OU muffed punt in last years BCS NC. The difference is USC is such a great team they can overcome huge mistakes. They almost beat Texas despite going into Texas territory 3 times and coming up EMPTY! They left min. 9pts and max 21pts on the table. Take the middle and USC should have scored 15 more pts. Texas should have scored 4 more pts. But I believe if USC played USC football in 1h, then USC would have won 60 something to 50 something. Texas would ahve scored more pts if USC executed in 1h like they always do (but didn't last night).

Props to Texas for playing 4 quarters. Most teams can't play 4 quarters with USC. Texas can. They truly have heart of a champion and USC last night showed what a great team Texas is. That makes the Texas victory more sweeter. Texas down 11 and they knew they still had shot at beating USC. Great champion in Texas and they fought to the end. I am proud to call Texas the 2005 National Champs because they took down a very very very good USC team. VY the giant slayer!

 

[Mr Hockey]

One line in your whole post sums up the game pretty accurately:

"I think it is quite clear USC lost the game themselves."


So I assume you agree with Leinart's post game comments about them still being the better team. I know I do.

 

[Cabo]

My take on the game is simple: TEXAS is the better team, and the BETTER team won!! Dont need any stats, Strenghth of schedule etc: Vince Young played better than Lienernt and is the better Qb to have in crunch time. Although Texas fumbled the ball many times during the course of the game they recovered, kept their composure and never looked like they were overly concerned. After the fourth down stop in the fourth, you could see the USC staff gripping, and for good reason!! VY is better than ML and will go ahead of him in the draft. All the doubt about him and Mack Brown was answered last night. That sums it up and no doubt Texas Longhorns are NATIONAL CHAMPIONS ..Cabo... :clap: :clap: :clap:

 

[CWood97]

I personally think that Texas almost gave the game to an inferior opponent by fumbling that opening punt, missing 4 pts worth of kicks and sputtering in the red zone at times. Not to mention that failed 4th and 2 attempt. Bonehead coaching and mistakes almost caused them to get beat, despite being the better team!

 

[gecko]

You know the saying: The better team doesn't always win. In this case that may or may not apply. I'd say that NEITHER team deserved to lose. Both Texas & USC played their hearts out. But one player ONE player....VINCE YOUNG....was GREAT, and willed himself to victory. Amazing stuff.

 

[Scott4USC]

I don't see how anyone can say Texas was the better team. I don't think you can say USC was the better team. Both teams played sloppy. Both teams played great. Great game.

OU made same mistakes as USC and USC destroyed them. Texas couldn't destroy USC and USC still had 11pt lead in 4th.

SO many little things that could have happened to EITHER team that would have changed the game. I think most agree Texas was able to cover up their mistakes more than USC. Does that make them the better team? I don't think so.

Stopping USC 2 inches is luck because its all about the officials spot. If USC was 2 inches past the 1st down marker that is luck. That wouldn't make USC the better team. Texas made huge 4th and 4 to win it. What if Young slipped on his 2 feet running for TD. Does that make USC the better team because they won? What if USC DB caught the ball that YOung threw to him on game winning drive. Would that make USC the better team?

I think Texas won because they were able to cover up more of their mistakes. Simple as that. If that makes you the better team, then Texas is the better team. They certainly deserved to win and they def. have the heart of a champion. VY is phenomenal.

Texas cheated themselves out of 4pts. USC cheated themselves out of min. 9pts and max. 21pts. On top of that, USC was 2inches from winning NC and 4-5 yards from winning NC. Props to Texas for getting it done.

 

[BUCKY1]

Last nights game and the Miami/OSU championship game might be the 2 best title games I have ever seen. I'm ready for opening kickoff 2006.

 

[gjn23]

i love college football and that game was great........

but for the love of pete....the bowl system completely sucks

is this sport EVER going to have a playoff????

8 team playoff would make for 7 AMAZINGLY INTENSE AND EXCITING GAMES......as opposed to sleeping thru auburn-wisconsin, texas tech-alabama, fla-iowa, etc.........

keep your worthless bowls for all but 8 teams........who deserve to battle on the field to determine the champion.

 

[Scott4USC]

One more thing. Has anyone commented on how Texas scored their first TD and no replay? VY knee clearly was on ground at 10 yard line. Texas might have scored TD anyways on that drive but 10 yards is still 10 yards. Leinarts INT was reviewed and correctly called. Why not Youngs? What is the pt of replay. Isn't it that guys job to look for this $hit. Geesh.

 

[sdf]

One more thing. Has anyone commented on how Texas scored their first TD and no replay? VY knee clearly was on ground at 10 yard line. Texas might have scored TD anyways on that drive but 10 yards is still 10 yards. Leinarts INT was reviewed and correctly called. Why not Youngs? What is the pt of replay. Isn't it that guys job to look for this $hit. Geesh.

texas is up 16-7 with lots of momentum
texas INTs a Leinart pass at the usc 40.
it's called incomplete. no replay.

quityerbitchin

and yes, that is what replay is for and it didnt work (not the first time either). replay has some kinks to work out, clearly.

 

[Scott4USC]

texas is up 16-7 with lots of momentum
texas INTs a Leinart pass at the usc 40.
it's called incomplete. no replay.

quityerbitchin

They showed that replay at the game and the Texas player fell to ground and ball clearly popped out. That isn't a legal catch and was correctly called INC. Didn't even need a replay. Quite obvious.

HELL. if that call was replayed on Youngs pitch and overturned, USC might not have had enough time on clock to get that last FG in 1h. You never know. Could have ended up worse for USC. The pt is USC did not get the chance to hold Texas from the 10 yard line. USC clearly was capable of doing it.

 

[CHERRYMAN]

I do not post often, however, I do appreciate all of the info. you provide to this site. In regards to your above comments, VY almost through an int. and got lucky. USC DB wasn't fast enough to catch that ball. It is also not clear that USC lost the game themselves, they were soundly beaten on both sides of the ball by a superior team. USC went into the red zone three times and inside the 25 another time and came away with 10 points. Thats great offense against a greater defense. UT controlled the line throughout this game and if played again UT would do the same thing as they have superior defense.

Months ago, Terry Bowden predicted this "upset" due to the fact that the past twelve nat. champions have had the superior D. UT had the superior D last night and have the superior today.

If PC is the greatest defensive mind in football, how did USC get beaten by a "high school offense".

Mistakes are made on both sides of the ball, but with a talent like VY who completely takes over a game by himself and scares defenses when he steps out of the pocket this game could have only one outcome.

USC blew that 4th quarter lead because they are the inferior team no other excuse.

All that said, I am sorry for your futures loss and am glad you finally came to your senses and hedged your bet in the second half. How much would you had won had you picked UT at the start of the year.

I was personally on them almost every game as side and totals were the most impressive ATS record I have seen in years.

Keep your post comng, they are full of good info. and I have followed them through the year.

LOL

 

[Mr Hockey]

Are you kidding me? They controlled the line? You need a reality check. The USC offense beat itself for the most part. I wouldn't call it great defense on the bonehead lateral attempt by Bush.

The stats don't lie:

Trojans: 595 net yards; 230 rushing/365 passing

8.3 yards per pass play.

I mean to say their d dominated is a joke & shows you weren't watching the same game most of us saw. The defenses were not strong last night by any stretch. If anything the USC O-Line made it look easy running the ball with those huge holes.

 

[3 Seconds]

Stopping USC 2 inches is luck because its all about the officials spot.

Bullshit. That was not luck & it was not about the spot & it sure as hell shouldnt have been 2 inches. UT stopped him clearly short of the 1st. USC got a generous spot on the play & still was short. No luck there. UT D stepped up when the game was on the line, unlike the Trojans D.

Texas cheated themselves out of 4pts. USC cheated themselves out of min. 9pts and max. 21pts.

Heres the good ol' twist job. USC didnt cheat themselves out of 21 pts. That 4 & 2 your team made a decision to go for it & got stopped. That is not cheating away points that is UT STOPPING YOU FROM GETTING THOSE PTS.

Bushes fumble sure a bonehead a play, but no guarantee you get any pts there. Funny how you say 10 yards is 10 yards for the VY knee down thing, but not 18 yards is 18 yards for the Bush thing, you give USC pts there automatically.

With your logic you could say UT cheated themselves out of a max of 18 pts not 4. If Ross didnt fumble that punt, maybe UT puts up 7 there. If Texas converts there 4 & 2 in USC terriotory maybe 7 pts there.

Typicallly again you maximize for USC & ignore the other side. You cant live on WHAT IFs & COULDA/SHOULDAs.

 

[Scott4USC]

I do not post often, however, I do appreciate all of the info. you provide to this site.

Thanks!

In regards to your above comments, VY almost through an int. and got lucky. USC DB wasn't fast enough to catch that ball.

From what I saw the DB was right in position to catch it. Young was about to get sacked and he chucked the ball. Easily could have been INT. But I'll see it when I watch game again.

It is also not clear that USC lost the game themselves, they were soundly beaten on both sides of the ball by a superior team.

Completely false statement. No evidence to support that claim. :mj07:

USC went into the red zone three times and inside the 25 another time and came away with 10 points. Thats great offense against a greater defense.

Reggie Bush fumble was a GIFT to Texas. Not great defense. Thats like if YOung on that 4th and 5 dropped the ball on his way to game winning TD. Not great USC D. Just gift from Texas. Leinarts INT Texas earned but why was USC throwing the ball and getting greedy when Texas had no clue how to stop Lendale White? Only thing I question the USC staff on. That is great defense from texas according to you. Give me a break. Leianart couldn't get 4th and inches. JOKE ON USC! A div 1aa team should get 4th and inches against either USC or Texas. USC deserved to lose based on their SLOPPY 1h play.

UT controlled the line throughout this game and if played again UT would do the same thing as they have superior defense.

Texas OL dominated but VY played major part. Texas couldnt stop White. They were lucky to stop White 2 inches. Like I said, if USC was 2 inches past that 1st down marker, that would have been luck for USC. White domianted the entire Texas D like VY dominated USC D. USC was just stupid in 1h not to use White more.

Months ago, Terry Bowden predicted this "upset" due to the fact that the past twelve nat. champions have had the superior D. UT had the superior D last night and have the superior today.

I agree Texas has the better defense. But Texas D couldn't stop USC like USC D couldn't stop Texas. Bash USC D all you want. Texas D did not do any better and one can argue was worse defending USC O than USC D defending Texas O.

If PC is the greatest defensive mind in football, how did USC get beaten by a "high school offense".

VINCE YOUNG! He played game of his life. He played like Leinart last years OB BCS NC. Just amazing.

Mistakes are made on both sides of the ball, but with a talent like VY who completely takes over a game by himself and scares defenses when he steps out of the pocket this game could have only one outcome.

I am sorry but that was a STUPID comment. Put 2 more min. on the clock at end of 4th and USC kicks tying FG or gets game winning TD. Give me a break. NEITHER D could stop the opposing O.

USC blew that 4th quarter lead because they are the inferior team no other excuse.

I am sorry, ANOTHER stupid comment. :mj07:

All that said, I am sorry for your futures loss and am glad you finally came to your senses and hedged your bet in the second half. How much would you had won had you picked UT at the start of the year.

A lot more! I still won over 5k on USC futures.

I was personally on them almost every game as side and totals were the most impressive ATS record I have seen in years.

USC dominated the vegas spread for 3 straight years. Year 2, year 3, and year 4 of Carroll.

Keep your post comng, they are full of good info. and I have followed them through the year.

Thanks.

 

[3 Seconds]

You also keep mentioning that pass that SHOULDA been a pick for USC on the last drive.

What about the 3 or 4 passes the ML SHOULDA had picked off. If UT got 2 of those they WOULDA won this game by 14+.

 

[Scott4USC]

You also keep mentioning that pass that SHOULDA been a pick for USC on the last drive.

What about the 3 or 4 passes the ML SHOULDA had picked off. If UT got 2 of those they WOULDA won this game by 14+.

It would have been amazing catch for Texas INT because he had to jump catch it and fall and not drop it. TOUGH! But if he did I applaud him but he couldn't. Maybe USC should have had 1 more turnover? I thought Bush gift, GIFT covers that. Texas might have gotten blown out if Bush didn't do that $hit. Thats why they play the game. Players make stupid decisions. Just like the OU punt returner last year BCS game.

What about Texas 5+ fumbles they all got back? THat is luck any way you look at it. If you put the ball on the ground 5 times, you should lose it 2 or 3 times. Texas lost it once. Texas had no INT's either. Props to Texas!

If you told me Texas puts ball on ground 5 times, I would have bet my entire bankroll on USC.

 

[3 Seconds]

Bash USC D all you want. Texas D did not do any better and one can argue was worse defending USC O than USC D defending Texas O.

:mj07:

You absolutely can not argure that the Texas D was worse the USC D.

Game was on the line 2x for USC D with under 7 minutes & THEY FAILED BOTH TIMES. THEY DIDNT GET THE JOB DONE.

Game was on the line for Texas, you must stop the greatest offense in the history of college football, according to ESPN & a lot of folks on this site from getting 2 yards, as tired as they were, as bad as USC had made them look in the 2nd half, when EVERYTHING was on the line, down to the ONLY PLAY THE MATTERED, you know what THEY DID IT, THEY GOT THE JOB DONE!

You have NO ARGUEMENT HERE AT ALL.

:flush:

 

[Felonious Monk]

LMAO @ "Put 2 more min. on the clock"

Put 2 more digits on your phantom 2nd half bet and you could have been a millionaire. You should apply for a job writing Hallmark gift cards after college because you seem to have an excuse for everything.

Can't you just live with the fact that a gimmicky high school offense beat your almighty trojans?

 

[3 Seconds]

It would have been amazing catch for Texas INT because he had to jump catch it and fall and not drop it. TOUGH! But if he did I applaud him but he couldn't. Maybe USC should have had 1 more turnover? I thought Bush gift, GIFT covers that. Texas might have gotten blown out if Bush didn't do that $hit. Thats why they play the game. Players make stupid decisions. Just like the OU punt returner last year BCS game.

What about Texas 5+ fumbles they all got back? THat is luck any way you look at it. If you put the ball on the ground 5 times, you should lose it 2 or 3 times. Texas lost it once. Texas had no INT's either. Props to Texas!

If you told me Texas puts ball on ground 5 times, I would have bet my entire bankroll on USC.

First of all it wasnt 5+ it was 4 in total.

Dont forget on the 3rd down run by White that set up the the crucial 4th & 2 he fumbled the ball & Smith recovered it for USC.

Texas 4 fumbles that USC didnt get are simply a wash with INTs Texas should have made on ML. I remember earlier in the year you :mj07: at how VY just tossed up floaters deep, but last night it was ML that was just tossing up floaters. I couldnt believe some of the horrible passes this "Peyton Manning" or "Joe Montana" was making. I thought I was having a flashback to the James Brown era of Texas football with those ducks.