My take on the game..........(long take)

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[b]THIS SUMS IT UP[/b]

THIS SUMS IT UP

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Perfect example of your twists. If the roles were reversed this fine Thursday & USC won the game by 3 & those plays were a VY fumble, VY getting stopped on 4th & inches & Taylor getting stopped inches short, you would be say that IS USC FOOTBALL, that is what GREAT teams do. THEY MAKE PLAYS WHEN IT MATTERS. USC forces you to make those choices with the pressure the offense puts on its oppenents & then you throw in one of these :scared

USC ANSWERED THE BELL WHEN THE GAME MATTERED & so on & so on :mj07:

This is what bothers so much about your double sided BS.

IT WAS GREAT DEFENSE STOPPING A QB SNEAK on 4th & inches.....ND sure as hell couldnt do it vs USC.

IT WAS BEYOND GREAT DEFENSE STOPPING 4 & 2 with game on the line.

IT A FOCKING JOKE YOU CANT ADMIT IT. :s4:

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Dice34 said:
you're basically saying, Young's 4th and 5 play was luck, if whites 4th and 2 play was luck..............or maybe you were eating Lucky Charms today and the word luck is just in your head.....

WRONG! The ball being spotted 2 inches short or 2 inches past the marker is luck. Texas could have stoppted White 1+ yards short or White could have ran the ball 1+ yards past the marker. Both teams battled and fate decided and Texas stopped USC 2 inches. Not an exact science marking the ball.

USC D forced Texas to make a do or die play on 4th and 5. Texas made a play. Texas won. Congrats!

ND forced USC to make a play on 4th and 9 and USC made a play. Same thing. Just 4 yards more.

Does that make USC more deserving to win or make USC wanting to win more than ND? NO! Just USC was the winner against ND and Texas was the winner over USC. USC was not the better team against ND and Texas was not the better team over USC. Based on that particular day. It was just so damn close in both games and neither team deserved to lose and both teams deserved to win.

How many people would pay to watch USC/ND play a 5th quarter and flip a coin who wins.

How many people would pay to watch USC/Texas play a 5th quarter and flip a coin who wins.

All 4 teams in both games WANTED TO WIN BADLY and gave it their all.
 

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What all this boils down to is that Pete Carroll is a complete idiot. How can you not prepare your team for the one player, VY, who can and did beat you. All these posters saying he's an NFL caliber coach is a load of bs. Any NFL team that prepares for someone like Vick or other qb's that can break a d down running cant necessarily shut him down, but control him enough to win the game. I lost a lot of respect for USC. Where is the discipline? Bush thinking he's Moss? Yeah, I'll get right on that. They had a chance to go down as the best team ever if they beat texas. Texas showed up, although they did make mistakes, but there is no way in my mind USC gets beat in their own back yard if they showed up as prepared as texas did. Throw all the excuses out, all the bs calls by the zebras, USC still sucks giant moose cock after that display last night. Thats what I call being weak.

Carroll had his team prepared. VY was better. SIMPLE AS THAT. Give VY and Texas credit. PC after dominating 3 straight BCS bowl opponents suddenly forgot to coach or gameplan?

Give VY credit. Other Texas O players credit too. They played GREAT! Phenomenal player and he will always know he did it against USC and Pete Carroll. Nothing better than doing it against the best. VY was magical. Just like Leinart was last years BCS game against OU.
 

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I will say this. Texas D was better than USC D. But USC O was better than Texas O. Texas played solid on D but that wasn't good enough. USC still moved at will on them.


How is that out of context?
 

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How is that out of context?

Texas D was great but USC still moved the ball on them. Texas tackled well. Texas was fast. USC didn't tackle well on D. Despite that, USC moved the ball on Texas like Texas moved the ball on USC. No difference. That is how you took it out of context. Include the entire line in your sig.........

Texas played solid on D but that wasn't good enough. USC still moved at will on them.

Otherwise you are taking it out of context.
 

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Scott4USC said:
WRONG! The ball being spotted 2 inches short or 2 inches past the marker is luck. Texas could have stoppted White 1+ yards short or White could have ran the ball 1+ yards past the marker. Both teams battled and fate decided and Texas stopped USC 2 inches. Not an exact science marking the ball.

USC D forced Texas to make a do or die play on 4th and 5. Texas made a play. Texas won. Congrats!

ND forced USC to make a play on 4th and 9 and USC made a play. Same thing. Just 4 yards more.

Does that make USC more deserving to win or make USC wanting to win more than ND? NO! Just USC was the winner against ND and Texas was the winner over USC. USC was not the better team against ND and Texas was not the better team over USC. Based on that particular day. It was just so damn close in both games and neither team deserved to lose and both teams deserved to win.

How many people would pay to watch USC/ND play a 5th quarter and flip a coin who wins.

How many people would pay to watch USC/Texas play a 5th quarter and flip a coin who wins.

All 4 teams in both games WANTED TO WIN BADLY and gave it their all.

Are you used to 2 inches or something???.......USC had a generous spot by the line judge that was on the other side of the pile, the guy that was supposed to mark the ball was a foot and a half behind him........If you listened to the radio announcer he didn't even skip a beat in saying Texas stopped them, meaning it was a blatant stop, in no instance did I, the radio announcer, people around me, and TV announcers think USC had the first down...........so stop saying it was LUCK, you are making a fool of yourself, just drink some beer and relax
 

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Let me ask you this one question Scott.

IF USC & Texas were to play again next week, lets say in the Fiesta Bowl, & the line was USC -7 again where would your $$$ be?
 

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soul train said:
Stop being a dreamer..your replaying the game in your mind..its over..forget about the penalties..fumbles..picks..stops.. all that crap is part of the game..the bottom line is USC could not stop the Horns from scoring on the final drive.USC had the lead and could not step up there defense in the final seconds.PERIOD!!!!!

Hook em Horns!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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If you do not want to analyze the game then why the fawk did you open the thread?

You are an IDIOT for scrutinizing me for analyzing the game in MY thread where I posted MY TAKE on the game in the subject line.

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3 Seconds said:
Perfect example of your twists. If the roles were reversed this fine Thursday & USC won the game by 3 & those plays were a VY fumble, VY getting stopped on 4th & inches & Taylor getting stopped inches short, you would be say that IS USC FOOTBALL, that is what GREAT teams do. THEY MAKE PLAYS WHEN IT MATTERS. USC forces you to make those choices with the pressure the offense puts on its oppenents & then you throw in one of these

USC ANSWERED THE BELL WHEN THE GAME MATTERED & so on & so on

This is what bothers so much about your double sided BS.

IT WAS GREAT DEFENSE STOPPING A QB SNEAK on 4th & inches.....ND sure as hell couldnt do it vs USC.

IT WAS BEYOND GREAT DEFENSE STOPPING 4 & 2 with game on the line.

IT A FOCKING JOKE YOU CANT ADMIT IT.


ADMIT IT!!!

Man you are an intelligent guy Scott & passionate about your squad, & you appear to be a stand up guy, & I like that about you. But please stop the twisting, it is so frustrating!! :cursin: You have to be to be able to see things from all sides not just in a way that makes it look best for the Maroon & Gold of USC. You have to make some concessions at times or your lose your credibility. Which sucks cause you are so informed on USC & PAC 10 ball.

ADMIT IT!!!
 

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A couple of quick hits:

-Vince Young and I would say Dave Thomas killed the Trojans. That guy couldn't have been more key to the Texas passing game, all the credit shouldn't got to Young, Thomas played huge

- L. White had a great game but a lot of the credit has to go to the USC Oline, he had canyons to run through but to his credit once he gets going he's a tough SOB to bring down

-What was up with the USC short kicks to the 30, especially at the end of game, clearly bad coaching by Carroll

-Texas won this game clearly because they had the ball less with most sufficient amount of time. Give USC another 35 seconds, they win the game and no way can any Texas or USC fan argue that

- As incredible as Vince Young was, Matt was just as incredible. Sure he was picked on a great play but Young should have been easily picked at least one time as well

-Texas fumbled the ball 4 times and only lost one, but they have been doing that crap all year, 38 fumbles all year and have only lost 10

- Bush Stupid play that cost them at least 3 points, no way was Matt's pass a mistake just a great defensive play

-Carroll's coaching just wreaked of mistakes that hurt his team: going for it on fourth in the first quarter when he could have taken 3 points, lack of defensive schemes making Vince beat you with only his arm, having Reggie Bush on the sidelineon the last fourth and 1 try, calling his last TO to get the right defense against a 2 point conversion
 

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vivalas said:
- As incredible as Vince Young was, Matt was just as incredible.


Sorry not even close.

I dont think anyone is even close to saying that was the greatest performance by any college QB that anyone has ever seen in big game about ML.
 

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3 Seconds said:
Let me ask you this one question Scott.

IF USC & Texas were to play again next week, lets say in the Fiesta Bowl, & the line was USC -7 again where would your $$$ be?

Great question.

This is what I would honestly do. I would put 20k on Texas ML and take 20k profit.

However, I would change my prediction. I predicted USC 45 Texas 27. I was 6min. left in the 4th away from a USC 38- Texas 26 final outcome. :)

I would now predict USC 58 and Texas 51.

USC had the chance to blow out Texas early and failed. BUT if USC did do that, Texas offense would have went into passing mode and that is when Texas O was lethal. So Texas would have scored more 2-4min. drives. VY dominated when Texas fell down 11pts. VY would have done what he did in the 4th all game if USC didn't fawk themselves in the 1h.

SCARY to think what #'s VY would have put up if USC jumped on Texas early like they easily could have. Texas scored on USC faster with their passing mode O. VY might have ran for 300+ yards.
 

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Game simply came down to 2 incredible offenses slugging it out and Texas had the last shot, clear and simple. Both defenses sucked because both offenses were outstanding. Hard to argue that clear of a statement. Is Texas the better team? They won the game, so I guess yes.

The question earlier if I had the chance to bet USC at -6.5 again would I? I might just because I like my chances of having more playmakes on USC side, didn't get it done last night but I think the odds say that they would. For 3 seconds I assume you would Texas at -3 than right? Either way I see at as in iffy bit because when it comes down to it, I don't think one team was clearly better than the other
 

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I would agree that Vince was one of the best statistical performances ever but if you watched the game, Matt led them on 5 straight TD drives, are you telling me that isn't all impressive? He put up over 350 yards passing against a Texas defense. I didn't say better than Vince I said he had a great game, if you disagree I think you need to take off the Organe burnt glasses, he torched your defense in the second half. 16/18 in the second half I believe
 

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wow scott,

not going to take the time to read all this but I do give you credit for coming on like this. this had to be the greatest nc football game ever. I thought it was over when sc went up 12 with 6mins left. even in losing, it had to be great to be there. good luck next year. :cool:
 

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Felonious Monk said:
wait a minute now...if USC gets an extra 2 minutes, do we get an extra 2 minutes after that?? this sounds cool!

Thats why this game was so great! Neither team deserved to lose and nobody could predict the winner if they played a 5th quarter. It truly was a game of INCHES! Also a game of costly mistakes. And a game of brilliant performances. It was a great BCS NC game.

If USC stopped Texas on that 4th and 4, Texas can pt finger to kicker for fawking up on 4pts. Just like USC pts finger at specific plays. Both teams sloppy and both teams excellent.
 

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My point exactly I think Texas would have scored, 28-25 in the second half. Folks nobody was playing defense in that second half
 

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Game simply came down to 2 incredible offenses slugging it out and Texas had the last shot, clear and simple. Both defenses sucked because both offenses were outstanding. Hard to argue that clear of a statement. Is Texas the better team? They won the game, so I guess yes.

The question earlier if I had the chance to bet USC at -6.5 again would I? I might just because I like my chances of having more playmakes on USC side, didn't get it done last night but I think the odds say that they would. For 3 seconds I assume you would Texas at -3 than right? Either way I see at as in iffy bit because when it comes down to it, I don't think one team was clearly better than the other

I would play Texas up -2.5, especially if the game were say in the Cotton Bowl.

To think Texas would beat USC everytime they played would be dumb of me & I am not that blinded by the Burnt Orange when I look at these things.

I do think Texas has an ALL AROUND better team.

I do still think USC has a better offense that Texas.

I do still think VY is the best player on the field.

I do still think USC D is a very weak link. If they played 100 series, I would be my bankroll that the the UT D get more stops vs USC than the USC D would get vs Texas, simply cause I truly believe Texas D is that much better than USC's D, while USC O is better, the gap isnt that wide due to VY.

Also while it didnt come into play much last night Texas has the SP teams edge as well.
 
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