I just heard he had a small heart attack due to some bird shot moving within his body and becoming lodged in his heart. If this continues to happen and he eventually dies from it, should Cheney be prosecuted?
If Whittington dies, should Cheney be charged and prosecuted?
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without being politically motivated I would say no, it wan an accident and should be treated as such. If Joe Nobody did the same thing I imagine it would be treated as accidental and thus no reason to prosecute.
I'm obviously not a lawyer, but I would think at worst a civil suit would be the most servere outcome.
I'm obviously not a lawyer, but I would think at worst a civil suit would be the most servere outcome.
God forbid, but if it happened then it would probably be up to prosecutors in the state of Texas to decide. If anything, I suppose it would be akin to negligent homicide.
penguinfan said:
Can't see a civil suit happening because this Mr. Whittington is a Texas Republican bigwig and friend of Bush, and by extension Cheney. But can't rule out an attempt at criminal prosecution, accident notwithstanding. A car accident scenario comes to mind.
And another issue is just the opposite of what you'd stated.....it's whether the VP would be afforded preferential treatment because of his status vs. Joe Nobody.
Hope this 78 yr old guy turns out to be okay.
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The civil suit idea was if Joe Nobody was involved, I understand Whittington has a ton of cash already and has no need to sue the VP.
I think if nothing comes of it then people will cry it's preferential treatment even when it's really not.
I think if nothing comes of it then people will cry it's preferential treatment even when it's really not.
gecko said:
I think it would be involuntary manslaughter, but I highly doubt they'd bring charges and I wouldn't think they should.
the saddest part of this story is that the (((lefties))) are seemingly GLAD this happened, as it provides yet another opportunity to bash the current administration
worse yet, i feel there are probably a significant number of people who WANT the man to die so it would be worse on the VP
the focus on bashing has gone too far..
it no longer matters what is best, the only important thing is to make the administration look bad
a man is hurt and in pain due to a terrible accident due to the negligence of both the VP and the injured man....
just hope that he has a speedy recovery
worse yet, i feel there are probably a significant number of people who WANT the man to die so it would be worse on the VP
the focus on bashing has gone too far..
it no longer matters what is best, the only important thing is to make the administration look bad
a man is hurt and in pain due to a terrible accident due to the negligence of both the VP and the injured man....
just hope that he has a speedy recovery
wareagle said:
Agree that BOTH men share blame.
It's like if a neighbor's kid ran out into the street to retrieve a ball and a driver injures, then kills, him then the driver would bear tremendous guilt. As for paying a penalty to society, then that's the big question.
This does bring up another question though... IF there was negligence (I'm not saying there was or wasn't, as I don't know), do you really think the administration and everyone around it would even let the facts out to be considered? That shit will be covered and cleaned up before you can say "Quailgate".
wareagle said:
Impossible to say since nobody on this board actually knows what happened (and maybe never will). It may be that Whittington himself is the one at fault here. No way to know unless you were there, but I can't imagine that he would be prosecuted unless a witness steps forward to say Cheney was drunk or something.
penguinfan said:
You'd mentioned Joe Nobody vs. the VP in reference to "prosecution". That refers to CRIMINAL, not civil.
Besides, as I'd said before, these guys were tight politically. No way do I see a civil suit against either Cheney or the ranch.
Of course one HAS to bring up the possibility of preferential treatment if someone of privilege or tremendous power faces a scenario such as this. Whether it turns out to be the case is another matter.
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Heyward said:
There were witnesses to the shooting itself. Cheney's state of mind (whether he was tired and sleepy, fatigued, or at worst under some kind of influence) would be hard to gauge.
""you guys (the press)will feel really silly when you find out that mr. whittiington was armed"....
"it`s not like he was defenseless or anything"......
-scott mcclellan...
"it`s not like he was defenseless or anything"......
-scott mcclellan...
gardenweasel said:
Good for him, telling a funny. Seriously.
Another good one by Bush or McClellan again (I didn't quite catch who it was, but one of them).
Referring to Bush meeting with the NC Texas football team today:
"One good thing is that there's a lot of orange here, in case the VP decides to show up." (somewhat paraphrased but that was the jist)
i say lots of "funnies"....it`s just that most of them are aimed at you "progressives".....with love,of course....
i was just reading about a few mcdonald`s/kfc`s being burned down in pakistan.....how about.. "Bush Lied...Kentucky Fried"....(groan)....
seriously,folks.....i pray that whittington pulls through....the press was actually asking about cheney stepping down because they weren`t given the info before the bleeding was stemmed...
i can`t imagine the administration being able to function if whittington expires...the distraction factor...the media frenzy....the jokes....
i honestly hope that most lefties aren`t rooting for the worst case scenario for whittington based on political motives...but,i`m sure some are...unfortunately....
we are a polarized society and politics appears to trump everything....to some...hopefully,very few...
i was just reading about a few mcdonald`s/kfc`s being burned down in pakistan.....how about.. "Bush Lied...Kentucky Fried"....(groan)....
seriously,folks.....i pray that whittington pulls through....the press was actually asking about cheney stepping down because they weren`t given the info before the bleeding was stemmed...
i can`t imagine the administration being able to function if whittington expires...the distraction factor...the media frenzy....the jokes....
i honestly hope that most lefties aren`t rooting for the worst case scenario for whittington based on political motives...but,i`m sure some are...unfortunately....
we are a polarized society and politics appears to trump everything....to some...hopefully,very few...
funny a guy with 5 differments, who ducked service so vigorously, enjoys shooting so much. Maybe its a good thing he avoided any armed conflict.
btw.....speaking of kfc......i happened to stumble upon the colonel`s "secret recipe".....
don`t tell anyone.....
a)salt
b)pepper
c)monosodium glutamate...
keep this on the down low,please...
don`t tell anyone.....
a)salt
b)pepper
c)monosodium glutamate...
keep this on the down low,please...
gardenweasel said:
lol- ain't that the truth. That Press Conference yesterday with McClellan regarding the shooting was insane.
Joe Scarborough had a hilarious montage on his show last night showing clips, one after another from those reporters set to the song 'pressure.'
And those doctors in Texas today trying to explain the current condition to a bunch of reporters? My God they were like a pack of wolves aggressively asking the DUMBEST questions imaginable. One of the doctors was getting visibly pissed.
