Not impressed with Boise State

[LonghornMM]

I am not at all impressed with Boise. They obviously can't hang with the big dogs. La Tech was in this game late at Boise. If Boise wants to run with the big boys and be taken more seriously they need to join a big-boy conference. Very unimpressive game by them tonight.

 

[joefrog91]

I am not at all impressed with Boise. They obviously can't hang with the big dogs. La Tech was in this game late at Boise. If Boise wants to run with the big boys and be taken more seriously they need to join a big-boy conference. Very unimpressive game by them tonight.

Who's inviting them to that big boy conference? That's right, no one. They would go in a heartbeat if asked. Why do you think they've been begging the MWC to take them for the last 3 years?

They won by 29. LSU beat McNeese St by 22. Nebraska beat So Dakota St by 14. Give me a break.

 

[LonghornMM]

MWC conference? Are you kidding? Its maybe a little better than WAC, but not much better. With Utah leaving that weakens it. At least they joined a big-boy conference.

Boise needs to try to pursue the Pac 10 or Big 12 if they want to be taken seriously. The only problem with that is is that Boise brings nothing to the table other than football, so that is hurting their chances. They are what they are. A good team, but not good enough to run with the big dogs and be seriously taken in the NC hunt. One thing that would bite Boise is that there are very few off-weeks in the Pac 10 and Big 12 compared to the WAC or MW, and they would average at least 3 to 4 losses a year in the SEC.

Boise is a nice team and is impressive for what they do, but no way they can consistently compete with top-tiered programs in a major conference.

 

[Corley1011]

As for asking them to join any of the bigger conferences... All they really contribute is football... basketball isn't that good... and I'm not sure they have a baseball team... the only big conference I can see making an offer that makes sense is the Pac 12

 

[LonghornMM]

As for asking them to join any of the bigger conferences... All they really contribute is football... basketball isn't that good... and I'm not sure they have a baseball team... the only big conference I can see making an offer that makes sense is the Pac 12

Yep, they're kinda locked into where they are and who they are and they shouldn't complain about being left out of the big dance against a one-loss team from a bigger conference who plays better competition week after week.

 

[joefrog91]

MWC conference? Are you kidding? Its maybe a little better than WAC, but not much better. With Utah leaving that weakens it. At least they joined a big-boy conference.

Boise needs to try to pursue the Pac 10 or Big 12 if they want to be taken seriously. The only problem with that is is that Boise brings nothing to the table other than football, so that is hurting their chances. They are what they are. A good team, but not good enough to run with the big dogs and be seriously taken in the NC hunt. One thing that would bite Boise is that there are very few off-weeks in the Pac 10 and Big 12 compared to the WAC or MW, and they would average at least 3 to 4 losses a year in the SEC.

Boise is a nice team and is impressive for what they do, but no way they can consistently compete with top-tiered programs in a major conference.

You make it sound like the AQ conferences are lining up to take Boise St. All you have to do is see how the Big XII has repeatedly said they have no desire to invite TCU. Utah got the invite because the Pac 10 failed at raiding the Big XII. They didn't just knock on the Pac 10's door and say let me in.

I love it when the argument is used that Boise and TCU couldn't play "week in and week out" in a bigger conference. Well you know what, neither can the teams that are actually in those conferences. The main problem is depth. And with the added bonus of "equal payout" BCS money and a legitimate chance to play for a NC, the depth would come in recruiting better players. Every AQ school coach uses the fact that non-AQ schools don't have a realistic chance to play for a NC against them. Take that out of the equation and some better recruits would sign up.

You also have to remember that any time a non-AQ team plays in a BCS Bowl, they get a lesser payout than the AQ schools. They also have to share it with every non-AQ conference. They don't get to keep it in their own conference. That extra money could help build better facilities to impress recruits.

You take a history of winning and add better facilities and recruits then you would see how good Boise St or TCU could really be. Hell, even Louisville and Cincy took over the Big East two years after joining. Utah will compete for the Pac-12 title in two years as well.

 

[jr11]

I don't know guys, put them in the SEC right now sure they probably lose a few games, but don't you think they would get some better recruits too or at least more depth if they were full time? Obviously they are well disciplined and coached, who really knows how good they would be if when recruiting they can say we play FLA, ALA and so on. They are getting it done and in a one game situation they have a chance to beat anyone and have proven it over the past few years. Sure they would lose a few games or more in the SEC schedule right now most teams would, but whose to say ALA would be any good if the roles were reversed. The system sucks, no reason to not have at least a 4 way playoff or possibly 8. To say they don't want to make the kids miss any school or more time, well don't all the other divisions do it and it ends in December, um aren't finals taking place then. A playoff most likely would be in January when some of these schools aren't even back to school yet or at very least the beginning of the semester. Total BS. A lot of games left though and I for one am hoping for total chaos or multiple teams undefeated.

 

[the addict]

All i know is this, they played oklahoma, oregon, oregon st, virginia tech all in the last couple years and won all those games. They have proven they can compete with some of the bigger programs....now could they do that on the biggest stage in college football that is the national championship game, well that is a something noone can answer, but the results are there, they can and have beaten some of the better programs out there...


all that said, I do agree with the ppl who argue that they could not win week in and week out in a bigger conference. No team can go year in and year out unbeaten when you play teams like florida, lsu, alabama, usc, cal, oregon, ohio st, psu, iowa, texas, oklahmo, nebraska everyweek. do i think it is neccesarliy fair if boise got too play in the big game? probably not. but I also dont think the bcs is the fairest way too determine who plays in it either. Brings us back too the argument of having a playoff.....I am not sure if there is anyway to ever end this argument without having some sort of playoff sysytem. Until then, we will never see a year where every team is satisfied with where they stand at the end of the year. Can you imagine the top 2 teams from each conference in a playoff. That I would watch over marchmadness, superbowl, worldseires anyday.

 

[tulah]

As a college football fan I love Boise St......1st off The Turf is freaking awesome and the team is just a bunch of guys winning football games...I think they are great for college this year...they have a NFL caliber QB and they are getting alot of press
this year. I wish they create a huge wreck in the BCS and then perhaps will get a playoff:toast:

As for them changing conference's , I think its long overdue.....the broncos have had the WAC on lockdown...They really need to do something
to increase their chance's of a BCS conference to gain interest.....maybe pay someone under the table or something like that...:0008
$ changes things..

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

All i know is this, they played oklahoma, oregon, oregon st, virginia tech all in the last couple years and won all those games. They have proven they can compete with some of the bigger programs....now could they do that on the biggest stage in college football that is the national championship game, well that is a something noone can answer, but the results are there, they can and have beaten some of the better programs out there...


all that said, I do agree with the ppl who argue that they could not win week in and week out in a bigger conference. No team can go year in and year out unbeaten when you play teams like florida, lsu, alabama, usc, cal, oregon, ohio st, psu, iowa, texas, oklahmo, nebraska everyweek. do i think it is neccesarliy fair if boise got too play in the big game? probably not. but I also dont think the bcs is the fairest way too determine who plays in it either. Brings us back too the argument of having a playoff.....I am not sure if there is anyway to ever end this argument without having some sort of playoff sysytem. Until then, we will never see a year where every team is satisfied with where they stand at the end of the year. Can you imagine the top 2 teams from each conference in a playoff. That I would watch over marchmadness, superbowl, worldseires anyday.

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[s.e.c guru]

Who's inviting them to that big boy conference? That's right, no one. They would go in a heartbeat if asked. Why do you think they've been begging the MWC to take them for the last 3 years?

They won by 29. LSU beat McNeese St by 22. Nebraska beat So Dakota St by 14. Give me a break.

THE reason for the small winning margins in those games you mentioned is because those teams have very emotional games 7 or 8 times a year where as Boise only has 1 or 2 a year.

i firmly beleive that if Boise played an 8 game S.E.C. schedule they would lose at least twice maybe 3 games . I'm not picking on BOISE because i said the same thing about Ohio ST a few weeks back. just my opinion.

 

[Skipper]

PAC-10 goes after Colorado - Boise would beat Colorado in football AND basketball, so spare me the big conference bullshit.

The Big 12 should get Boise and TCU but will not because the football coaches would go crazy. Instead they will probably get SMU and Rice.

All I know is that Boise beats anyone who is across the field from them. Va. Tech is owning the ACC. Yes they lost to Dolly Madison, but Boise beat them.

They can't do anything right with most idiots around here.

They beat someone 59-0? "Well, they are just running up the score beating no one."

They win 49-20 with the game NEVER in doubt - "They didn't look that impressive tonight. I mean they only beat La. Tech at home by 29."

:stfu:

 

[Skipper]

MWC conference? Are you kidding? Its maybe a little better than WAC, but not much better. With Utah leaving that weakens it. At least they joined a big-boy conference.

Boise needs to try to pursue the Pac 10 or Big 12 if they want to be taken seriously. The only problem with that is is that Boise brings nothing to the table other than football, so that is hurting their chances. They are what they are. A good team, but not good enough to run with the big dogs and be seriously taken in the NC hunt. One thing that would bite Boise is that there are very few off-weeks in the Pac 10 and Big 12 compared to the WAC or MW, and they would average at least 3 to 4 losses a year in the SEC.

Boise is a nice team and is impressive for what they do, but no way they can consistently compete with top-tiered programs in a major conference.

Maybe the Big 12 needs to pursue Boise? I doubt that would happen though because they would be scared shatless of them and TCU. All I remember is when they played YOUR conference champion Oklahoma, they won.

They bring twice as much to the table as Colorado in both football and basketball. Colorado had to drop men's tennis a few years ago and Boise is consistently top 25. Even in non-revenue sports, they bring more to the table.

You better thank the Lord they are not on your schedule or your Longhorns would have loss #3.

 

[bleedingpurple]

I always hope Boise gets whacked and the only reason for that is because of the blue turf.. I think it sucks..

 

[LonghornMM]

Maybe the Big 12 needs to pursue Boise? I doubt that would happen though because they would be scared shatless of them and TCU. All I remember is when they played YOUR conference champion Oklahoma, they won.

They bring twice as much to the table as Colorado in both football and basketball. Colorado had to drop men's tennis a few years ago and Boise is consistently top 25. Even in non-revenue sports, they bring more to the table.

You better thank the Lord they are not on your schedule or your Longhorns would have loss #3.

I'd love to see Boise in the Big 12. They would definitely be competitive, but outside of football they don't bring enough to the table. No shit they would beat Texas this year. Texas is having a down year, but you should know that if you follow football.

A few in here get it based on their responses and a few don't. Boise is a 2 to 4 loss team in the SEC. Yes, they have a good program, but they play in a really, really weak conference. I do hope about six or seven teams finish undefeated so it creates a firestorm and exposes the BCS for the fraud that it is.

 

[joefrog91]

THE reason for the small winning margins in those games you mentioned is because those teams have very emotional games 7 or 8 times a year where as Boise only has 1 or 2 a year.

i firmly beleive that if Boise played an 8 game S.E.C. schedule they would lose at least twice maybe 3 games . I'm not picking on BOISE because i said the same thing about Ohio ST a few weeks back. just my opinion.

So the SEC is the ony conference that has emotional games? You don't think Boise St gets everyone's best shot every week? Conference opponents know each other very well.

The point I'm trying to make is that every team has clunker games. I just get tired of the double standard put upon non-AQ schools. There's always an excuse for the poor play of AQ schools that are not applied to non-AQs. Non-AQ "powerhouse" schools have to beat everyone by 50. If they don't, then it's because it proves they're not that good.

 

[ageecee]

Every team in college football has a game every year where they are unispired to play, they go through the motions, etc, etc. This was Boises game to do that. No big deal it happens to every team.

You cant get up for every game fellas it just doesnt happen.

 

[tigerfan]

I hope they make it to the BS champ game and play one of Auburn or Alabama - bc it would be a blue blood bath. the end.

 

[tigerfan]

I hope they make it to the BS champ game and play one of Auburn or Alabama - bc it would be a blue blood bath. the end.

:0008

 

[TLankford]

All i know is this, they played oklahoma, oregon, oregon st, virginia tech all in the last couple years and won all those games.

uh.... they played those teams spread out over the course of like 4 seasons. GMAFB. I really doubt they have ever played 3 top25 teams in one season EVER. Auburn has already beaten 4 this year.

a 2 loss SEC team should be ranked ahead of Boise. South Carolina and Arkansas would be a pick-em on a neutral field. 1 Loss Pac10, SEC, Big12, Big10 school should be ranked ahead of them.

They couldn't stop LTech's little pistol/shotgun attack last night until they got to the goal line. Auburn and Oregon would both put up 60+ against Boise. They can't tackle. They can't stop the run.

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