Shame On Us
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There are just damn many of them to keep track of.
Even if 40% are dirty it would take 10 years to root them out.
By then they would have retired or stolen enough to just be a CEO and give money to other crooked politicians.
They will tell us anything to get us to shut up.
Then when they dont do something they said they would, all they got to do is say oh so sorry ppl. Time ran out and I didnt get to it.
Then here comes the new party again ready to beat us down.
Maybe Canada is not so bad a place
Even if 40% are dirty it would take 10 years to root them out.
By then they would have retired or stolen enough to just be a CEO and give money to other crooked politicians.
They will tell us anything to get us to shut up.
Then when they dont do something they said they would, all they got to do is say oh so sorry ppl. Time ran out and I didnt get to it.
Then here comes the new party again ready to beat us down.
Maybe Canada is not so bad a place
I was rushing thru it Duff,
I couldn't find Jerry's exact spending, but I did find that write up in the HuffPo
It was 96 degrees today, and I have been spending time in the pool.
Sorry if that pisses many people off who's toes are blue. :mj07:
Just tuff to make the transistion Old School. You don't want to see people suffering but im done hoping they get off the coach and go vote. I should have voted for McCain to start the process of families hitting the misery point.
There is no way the gop had any ideas on how to get us out of this mess they created. with the corporations now giving unlimited money this is about as hopeless a situation as it can get. People in this country can't tell the different from the truth and bullshit and a simple 30 second sound bite can get their vote. I love guys like Hedge and Dogs. They are like Mushrooms. Kept in the dark and fed a lot of shit. I heard those dispicable blue dogs lost their elections. Just enuf blue Dogs to fuk up everything Obama wanted to do. You have to love the GOP tho. They want those tax cuts to stay active no matter that it will put a 700 billion dollar hit on the deficit. Even tho they have been crying about the debt for two years now and silent for eight. I guess they will go back to being silent again. 700 billion hit and they will load us up with the bullshit that it will create jobs.
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One of the most decent men in politics. when a handjob like Mags is telling people how bad he was u know the guy had a lot of good in him.
#1. Sponge, you are not intelligent. Every post you make shows that.
#2. Feingold could have easily kept his job if he wasn't a sellout to the unions and Obama. People of WI were very clear to him prior to the healthcare vote that we were not in favor of the bill - he decided to commit suicide and vote for it anyway. Ron Johnson's #1 platform was to work to repeal the bill - and this resonated with the majority of WI voters who felt the same way. If Feingold listed to his constituents and voted as they wished, he'd still be here. It didn't help him that he is known as being extremely liberal, and promoted the Pelosi/Obama agenda. As you can see, that s**t don't play anymore in the US - with the exception of the wacky Northeast and California.
He slit his own throat - and to quote Obama, "Elections have consequences".
Herb Kohl will be next in 2012.
Johnson is one those rich guys that spent 110 millon of his own. Set out to buy election we TV adds and did.
He out spent Feingold my 81 million.
He out spent Feingold my 81 million.
Mags, do you have any specifics to back up your comments? As far as I can tell, in advance of the healthcare vote, there was not a lot of unified thoughts or information about it, and I know that many Americans put Obama in place for this vote specifically. There were many who were in favor of it. And of course you were against it for reasons we all know - and I understand that, and respect your position. I just think there is so much AFTER THE FACT credit taking by people who have much to gain - guessing people like yourself, if you'd care to comment on that... - who are motivated to rise up against the bill.
It takes courage for people like Feingold to take a stand. It doesn't take so much for people who benefit from the current unencumbered system to take a stand where they will continue to benefit, and then raise heck when they no longer might. I agree the current system is arguable at best, but there is so much out there that people have no idea about and talk against it, that pure ripping of the plan also has it's limitations.
How about this. Can you present any kind of public poll of the entire people of Wisconsin that prove they were agains the bill? Or is this more campaigning by someone with a vested interest in the bill being done away with?
Again, with all due respect. I value your opinions, but am always dubious of where you are coming from, considering where your bread is buttered, so to speak. Thanks.
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let me think about this
You dont spend 110 million of your own money to get something, if you are not going to get back
say 330 million.
So how does this happen ?
How do they make their money back and more ?
They buy the office they get on the gravy train.
Anyone got any ideas :142smilie
Sponge is right. You're a handjob Mags.
Russ Feingold stood for something. Over ONE MILLION of us Wisconsin voters recognized that. Unfortunately, 1.1 million of Wisconsin's less informed voters fell for the slick sales pitch the wealthy Johnson relentlessly flooded the Wisconsin airwaves with for months on end.
To be fair, it remains to be seen what kind of senator Johnson will be. But I wouldn't get too excited Mags because like most of the other Republicans that were elected on Tuesday, Johnson ran a platform based solely on stopping the Obama agenda and offered no new ideas of his own. Throughout most of the campaign, I couldn't tell if Johnson was running against Feingold or Obama.
So let's see what Johnson brings to the table. He might be a good guy but that doesn't mean he'll make the right decisions for the citizens of Wisconsin or the country as a whole. If he's half the senator Russ Feingold was, he'll be head and shoulders above most of his peers in Congress on both sides of the aisle.
No Chad, Mags can not produce any facts or polls to support his absurd claims that the overhwhelming majority of Wisconsin voters were against Healthcare Reform. Like Minnesota, Wisconsin's always been a progressive State (although the events of the past decade have stretched our progressive spirit a little thin at times).
The fact is Feingold got caught up in the "Let's throw the bums out" mentality that appealed to so many voters across the country. Does anyone seriously believe that Tuesday's election results were an endorsement of a party who's overall approval rating is 26%? Seriously? :shrug:
Chadman - I don't have a lot of time for specifics right now, but the things I can tell you are:
1. Refrom has been VERY good for me personally in the business sense. So, it was worked out very well. I'd bu much worse off, if Reform did NOT pass.
2. Many reasons I am against the HC bill. Here's an example - look at how much of the Fed budget is "unassailable" - Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, and Defense. It is like 80%. Expenses we can't cut. The LAST thing we need is another entitlement. Like the good Lord said "if you don't work, you don't eat".
3. Every poll I saw showed the number opposed to the bill in total is greater than those in favor. It is even more dramatic when viewing the total of those "strongly opposed" to these "strongly in favor".
Bottom line - if we are going to make a change as significant to our economy (16%), then we'd better have 75+% in agreement among our elected representatives. IF this was such a good plan, then the Dems' should have had no problem getting Repubs to back it, since they had 60% in the bad, since they were mandated to vote to the bill. No other "big" entitlement program had ONLY one party vote for it. This is not what people wanted - by far. In WI, it has increased unemployment overall - due to having a lot of insurance companies. It was obvious it was a bad bill - no Dem campaigned on passing it (oh yes, Feingold the idiot did - and how did that work out for him?)
I know Obama has had his life revolve around saying negative things about insurerers. It is too bad - there are 40+ industries with much higher profit margins than insurance. Why pick on insurance (rather than autos, food, telecom, etc)? Because insurance folks are smart, and are not unionized. If they were unionized, the healthcare bill would look a lot better than it does now - guaranteed - as Obama would have been kissing the a** of insurers. He is a puppet of the unions. They probably program his telepromter for everytime he makes an important appearance, like the Daily Show or the View.
But no worries - I do believe in 2012, the Repubs will run "someone" + Rubio, promise to do immigration reform (for the Hispanics - they'll use this an election tool) - which will cancel the black vote (who vote based on skin color cleary - 98% - unreal), and will win the presidency.
Ummm.. because Obama and Feingold's rating is even lower????:00hour
Face it - Feingold is a long time incumbent - he had a huge advantage. Johnson campaigned on repealing health care as his major message. Feingold boasted of his vote for healthcare.
Johnson won easily. How much harder is this to understand?
See, that is exactly what you liberals don't understand.
The majority of America sees Government as the PROBLEM and want them to get the F**K out of the way.
The liberals see them as the solution, and want them involved in very aspect of our lives.
That is not America. Which is why America gave a resounding FU to Obama and his policy ideas.
That includes healthcare, stimulus, and all the bailouts, which benefits the unions almost exlusively.
You think it is bad now? Wait till 2012...... many more Dem senate seats will be up (I believe is it 34 Dem, 9 Rep)...... how big of a majority you think the Rep's will have then?
And that's when Healthcare will be repealed, government will be shrunk and out of the way, and we'll be America again.
Sorry, most of us don't want to be France. Been there - bunch of spoiled, arrogant brats. "Oh no, our retirement age is going from 60-62, and we have to work a whole 35 hour workweek to boot!".
Pussies.
Wrong again Mags.
At the time of the election, Obama's approval rating was 46% while the Republican Party's approval rating was 26%.
Feingold's incumbent status was trumped by single-issue voters like yourself and uninformed voters (Tea-Baggers).
Better go easy on the Leinenkugels Mags... you're slurring your posts. :toast:
Please explain this statement Mags. What benefits unions almost exclusively?
I just know this is gonna be good... :142smilie
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Why all the foul language? I don't think I could ever meet you in public with your foul mouth. Get some manners.
Trenchie - were did the "stimulus" money go? My understanding was the vast majority was to construction type jobs - which are exclusively union labor.
Everything I've read, regarding the stimulous spending, indicated that is the fact.
Do you have data that counteracts that? If so, would love to see it.
