ALL TROOPS OUT OF IRAQ...

[DOGS THAT BARK]

I going to give it one more shot just in search for the truth-

From Time magazine--a liberal publication

Goes in length to explain most timetables were set pre Obama by Iraq.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1908429,00.html
With U.S. Pullout, Iraq Takes Ownership of Its War

By MARK THOMPSON Tuesday, June 30, 2009


Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1908429,00.html#ixzz1cBqeN2b8

Still, the pullout from urban areas is a critical step toward the eventual withdrawal of all U.S. combat troops by Aug. 31, 2010, and all 131,000 U.S. troops from the country by the end of 2011. Iraq began as George W. Bush's war, but today, for better or worse, ownership has passed not to Barack Obama but to Nouri al-Maliki.
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Basically O is in reality responsible for adding more troops to wars than subtracting--taking into account those that were already pre determined to be pulled --

in addition another noted fact--
troop casualties for both wars combined were 20% greater at conclusion of 2010 (last year of Dem control) than 2008.opcorn2

So at least now you should be certain of the facts--how you present them in the future--
is up to you sir.
============================

--and now listen to this one more time and tell me if it sounds any different :0008

whitehouse | YouTube Friday, October 21

President Obama on Ending War in Iraq

President Obama fulfills a promise to the American people by announcing all troops will be withdrawn from Iraq by the end of the 2011 effectively ending the war in Iraq. Read Full Article

 

[Duff Miver]

I going to give it one more shot just in search for the truth-

Try again, doggie. Prove to us that you actually can come up with one thought of your own, no quotes from others, no links. C'mon, doggie you can do it.

Why did we attack Iraq?

What was our mission there?

How have we accomplished that mission?

Is it time for us to leave now?

 

[Duff Miver]

Try again, doggie. Prove to us that you actually can come up with one thought of your own, no quotes from others, no links. C'mon, doggie you can do it.

Why did we attack Iraq?

What was our mission there?

How have we accomplished that mission?

Is it time for us to leave now?

Sorry, doggie, for confusing you with such difficult questions.

 

[THE KOD]

Try again, doggie. Prove to us that you actually can come up with one thought of your own, no quotes from others, no links. C'mon, doggie you can do it.
?

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doggie is not capable of answering on his own

pity really

 

[Chadman]

I guess I just don't know what else to say on this. I think I've asked a very simple question and made a very pertinent point. I don't think either are being addressed by you, Wayne. And you think I'm somehow avoiding your points and not addressing them. I guess I don't understand, but it seems we're talking about two different ways of looking at things. I don't know.

You want me to admit somehow that Bush set the timetable. I did, based on the document you showed, wherever it came from. Clear enough?

I'm saying that the timetable was evidently in place BY BUSH, which is what you're wanting me to say. And I'm asking how you could blame Obama and democrats for "cutting and running" when they mention any kind of withdrawal date of any kind, when you want me to give Bush credit for that very thing.

And I have listened to the link, and his original speech, and I'm saying he's following through with what he said he was going to do. I don't hear anything about him taking credit for establishing the original withdrawal date - just that he pledged to withdraw the troops by 2011, and he's doing that. I guess you want something else from him - which is another point I've made.

It's really mind-boggling. I guess you'd just prefer me to change the point and just talk about what you want to talk about - not my point. I've also done that now, twice. So be it. Carry on.

 

[Trench]

Try again, doggie. Prove to us that you actually can come up with one thought of your own, no quotes from others, no links. C'mon, doggie you can do it.

Why did we attack Iraq?

What was our mission there?

How have we accomplished that mission?

Is it time for us to leave now?

Duff, by my count, that's at least 5 times in this thread he's been asked these questions and all he responds with is...

"Uuuuhhhh... we won the war... DUH!!!"

That's the kind of keen, cut-to-the-chase insight that only Dogs is capable of delivering.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

I guess I just don't know what else to say on this. I think I've asked a very simple question and made a very pertinent point. I don't think either are being addressed by you, Wayne. And you think I'm somehow avoiding your points and not addressing them. I guess I don't understand, but it seems we're talking about two different ways of looking at things. I don't know.

You want me to admit somehow that Bush set the timetable. I did, based on the document you showed, wherever it came from. Clear enough?

I'm saying that the timetable was evidently in place BY BUSH, which is what you're wanting me to say. And I'm asking how you could blame Obama and democrats for "cutting and running" when they mention any kind of withdrawal date of any kind, when you want me to give Bush credit for that very thing.

And I have listened to the link, and his original speech, and I'm saying he's following through with what he said he was going to do. I don't hear anything about him taking credit for establishing the original withdrawal date - just that he pledged to withdraw the troops by 2011, and he's doing that. I guess you want something else from him - which is another point I've made.

It's really mind-boggling. I guess you'd just prefer me to change the point and just talk about what you want to talk about - not my point. I've also done that now, twice. So be it. Carry on.

Chad buddy--it the same ole shit just a diff day--

You got 7 posts in this thread all based on opinion--not one link to reference or source or verification.

I have 9 links to references including agreement between U.S. and Iraq which is crux of arguement.

2 entirely diff methods of debate

Of course do have 100% support from "the pack" with their one liners -scarey --isn't it!--ouch--I know that hurt--that was below the belt--sorry :lol:

 

[THE KOD]

I have 9 links to references including agreement between U.S. and Iraq which is crux of arguement.

2 entirely diff methods of debate

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:142smilie

thats not a debate, its a crucifixion


I am glad we at least have Chad for you to debate with. Either that or we dont get to see how really
pitiful you are. Over and over. Same shit differant day.

:0s

pity really

 

[Trench]

......................................................................


:142smilie

thats not a debate, its a crucifixion


I am glad we at least have Chad for you to debate with. Either that or we dont get to see how really
pitiful you are. Over and over. Same shit differant day.

:0s

pity really

He really has no idea, does he Scotty? :142smilie

This forum wouldn't be the same without him though.

Don't go chang'in to try and please us, Dogs. We like you just the way you are. :0074

 

[The Sponge]

Chad buddy--it the same ole shit just a diff day--

You got 7 posts in this thread all based on opinion--not one link to reference or source or verification.

I have 9 links to references including agreement between U.S. and Iraq which is crux of arguement.

2 entirely diff methods of debate

Of course do have 100% support from "the pack" with their one liners -scarey --isn't it!--ouch--I know that hurt--that was below the belt--sorry :lol:

His are just opinions? Anyone over five should know what he is saying is fact. Again when the Dems wanted a time table it was cut and run by ur crowd. Now u want Bush to be credited with a time table. :mj07: You can't have it both ways and that is the point. You can't have it both way's and that is the point. You can't have it both way's and that is the point. You are a partisan puppet and that is the point.

 

[The Sponge]

He really has no idea, does he Scotty? :142smilie

This forum wouldn't be the same without him though.

Don't go chang'in to try and please us, Dogs. We like you just the way you are. :0074

He has an idea Trench. He just thinks we all are stupid like Hannity and Limbaugh think, with their listeners. If a guy like us called Limbaugh show we would be banned for life. Here Dog's doesn't have the power to ban us (like Limbaugh)and this is why most of these phony conservatives look foolish when they try to run that garbage they hear on Fox by us, like we are one of Fox's naive viewers.

 

[Chadman]

Chad buddy--it the same ole shit just a diff day--

You got 7 posts in this thread all based on opinion--not one link to reference or source or verification.

I have 9 links to references including agreement between U.S. and Iraq which is crux of arguement.

2 entirely diff methods of debate

Of course do have 100% support from "the pack" with their one liners -scarey --isn't it!--ouch--I know that hurt--that was below the belt--sorry :lol:

Wayne, Buddy. This post is bullshit, with all due respect. I'm even referring to your posted "link" to the original document that for the first time to my knowledge you bring out as proof of Bush stating the withdrawal date. How is that opinion? I refer to your link, I'm talking about your link, I'm making an observation, like you are, and all of my posts are opinion and yours are references and a crux of the argument? And I ask several times for a simple answer to a simple question, and you ignore it several times? I continue to argue based on your posts, your framing, how you want to talk about things. You ignore mine, repeatedly.

You're right, Wayne. 2 diff methods of debate. Dealing with it - and avoiding it. I'm comfortable with mine. And I don't need any backup, thanks. I don't really NEED you to answer my question, because I know you have no good answer for it.

One new question for you, since you can't bring yourself to face the other one - how come you've never, in all these years and all the criticism of dems and Obama for withdrawal cutting and running, posted this link? How come Bush or any republican never referenced it when ripping dems for years?

Again - no real answer is necessary, or expected. Agree - same shit different day.

 

[Skulnik]

Wayne, Buddy. This post is bullshit, with all due respect. I'm even referring to your posted "link" to the original document that for the first time to my knowledge you bring out as proof of Bush stating the withdrawal date. How is that opinion? I refer to your link, I'm talking about your link, I'm making an observation, like you are, and all of my posts are opinion and yours are references and a crux of the argument? And I ask several times for a simple answer to a simple question, and you ignore it several times? I continue to argue based on your posts, your framing, how you want to talk about things. You ignore mine, repeatedly.

You're right, Wayne. 2 diff methods of debate. Dealing with it - and avoiding it. I'm comfortable with mine. And I don't need any backup, thanks. I don't really NEED you to answer my question, because I know you have no good answer for it.

One new question for you, since you can't bring yourself to face the other one - how come you've never, in all these years and all the criticism of dems and Obama for withdrawal cutting and running, posted this link? How come Bush or any republican never referenced it when ripping dems for years?

Again - no real answer is necessary, or expected. Agree - same shit different day.

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same shit different day.


:nono:

 

[Trench]

His are just opinions? Anyone over five should know what he is saying is fact. Again when the Dems wanted a time table it was cut and run by ur crowd. Now u want Bush to be credited with a time table. :mj07: You can't have it both ways and that is the point. You can't have it both way's and that is the point. You can't have it both way's and that is the point. You are a partisan puppet and that is the point.

This thread is definately one for "the archives".

The link's on my desktop and Dogs is gonna be reminded of this thread for the rest of his natural life... :142smilie

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

This thread is definately one for "the archives".

The link's on my desktop and Dogs is gonna be reminded of this thread for the rest of his natural life... :142smilie

Still nothing from doggie dogshit? :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

You know if you go through the archives Kosar used to do this to doggie dogshit all the time. It's really funny how many times doggie dogshit has been mind-fucked in this forum and left with absolutely nothing to say. Good for nothing tit-sucking hillbilly. :0074

 

[Duff Miver]

Still nothing from doggie dogshit? :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

You know if you go through the archives Kosar used to do this to doggie dogshit all the time. It's really funny how many times doggie dogshit has been mind-fucked in this forum and left with absolutely nothing to say. Good for nothing tit-sucking hillbilly. :0074

If I may correct you -

Good for nothing tit-sucking hillbilly leech.

 

[Skulnik]

If I may correct you -

Good for nothing tit-sucking hillbilly leech.

Lucky Pierre.

:nono:

 

[bleedingpurple]

This thread is definately one for "the archives".

The link's on my desktop and Dogs is gonna be reminded of this thread for the rest of his natural life... :142smilie

:0008

It was just an innocent thread to start, can't believe it is still going.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

This thread is definately one for "the archives".

The link's on my desktop and Dogs is gonna be reminded of this thread for the rest of his natural life... :142smilie

You gotta love liberal logic--especially from our forum trolls :lol:

You were exposed for changing identity to hide your history--now wanting to form archive to retrieve history--
You just can't make this shit up :facepalm:

P.S. Hint on starting archives- use sub titles for easy reference.

This one will go under my heading---rewriting history/fact vs opinion.


eg: one of my all time favs is under title-
"da flower grift"
has sub titles like-- family tradition/photo's :SIB

 

[Chadman]

Wayne, maybe the next time this thread is brought up as a reference for whatever reason, you can take a run at my question(s).