I addressed your post Woody and u know it. My original point is that people are overacting
Another Ebola thought from Dr. Matt Valente
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That's awesome and I commend you for it. I have interests in microbiology as well. You certainly are well read on the issues.
Cheers.
Here's my point. While a great fisherman, home renovation work is amazing, a degree in Chemistry, military figure and voiced political community member, I don't think your a great debater. You are well rounded individual.
Information is being shared quickly do the the nature of the spread of Ebola. You see it as hysteria. The CDC sees it as containment.
You can argue about anything you want. Its your right. I just don't see a lot of INFORMATION in your posts. I lot of pointing at other subjects, events, or viewpoints but nothing really about Ebola. As a microbiologist I would expect some more solid information... I'm just reading satire, over speak, and everyone's wrong for talking so shut up and listen to me type responses.
IF you are going to spend the time making a point, lay the point out without all the tamberine, snare drum hocus pocus and just say it already
Ha! I look back over the years at myself and think what a foolish idiot. I think that realization made me wiser but certainly not smarter. :toast: I am not on FB any more but would lurk your posts about politics and the likes. Good stuff.
Have a great day guys.
good comment i read on another site:
Don't worry, there is low risk that Ebola can spread in the USA with no travel restrictions from Ebola outbreak nations....
Don't worry, there is a low risk of Ebola spreading in the USA because our health care infrastructure is much more advanced than Africa's and we never make mistakes....
Don't worry our health care workers that deal directly and recently with Ebola are intelligent enough to not board commercial flights so we do not need to independently monitor them....
Don't worry....
Don't worry, there is low risk that Ebola can spread in the USA with no travel restrictions from Ebola outbreak nations....
Don't worry, there is a low risk of Ebola spreading in the USA because our health care infrastructure is much more advanced than Africa's and we never make mistakes....
Don't worry our health care workers that deal directly and recently with Ebola are intelligent enough to not board commercial flights so we do not need to independently monitor them....
Don't worry....
Not sure what information your looking for? If your looking to me for my thoughts on the science of it, then I would think that Ebola is an extremely virulent virus of the filoviridae genera which has 5 species. All 5 were and are endemic to the west part of Africa and has shown an average mortality rate of about 50%. Due to the fact is a virus and not bacteria it cannot be identified by simple tests such as gram stain. Several tests are required to identify the virus such as an ELISA, culture isolation, antigen isolation among other things. The virus is hydrophilic meaning it lives and loves water and fluids.
A person with the Ebola virus is not infectious until symptoms present themselves. The virus l infects the cells causing the release of cytokines which kill or lyse the cell. Cytokines arts also released into the extracellular matrix that holds your body's endothelial cells and cellular matrix together. The cytokines released well inhibit the integrin that is integral in cellular attachment to extracellular matrix. The resultant condition causes hemorrhagic catastrophe to endothelial and mucous membranes that surround and protect your organs this causing you to basically bleed out internally.
The pathogen itself is thought to have come from fruit bats and passed to humans through tainted bush meat. It is endemic in areas of very poor health quality and medical facilities.
There are no known cures or vaccines, however the disease had been around since the 70's and has never spread to western countries where it consequently became endemic. Early detection followed by blood and antibiotic therapy have reduced the mortality rate to as low as 2% depending upon strain and treatment.
It is passed through bodily fluids and blood borne contacts. It was thought to be airborne but that has yet to be proven or substantiated.
That's what I know about it. It's with that knowledge that I can at with a fairly good to excellent level of confidence that Ebola is not a biological weapon used by the Obama administration to kill off random citizens in an effort to declare Marshall law and declare himself king, as hedge and ray said. I can also say with great certainty that we add a nation will never see this become a problem or epidemic in our country provided we use proper care and vigilance when it comes to prevention and education of all parties involved.
I'm fine with screening incoming flights, provided there was a way to effectively do that. There isn't, without absolute quarantine, however why should we have to pay for that? Shouldn't those leaving the affected country be screened and quarantined prior to leaving? How do you allow Liberia to detain and quarantine an American citizen? Imagine the criticism Obama would get then?
My point is, rather than spend the majority of our journalistic efforts twisting the public into knots, streaming a constant barrage of conjecture and supposition into the story, report the facts and what we as individual citizens need to do in order to help.
The fact that it's been around over forty years and only one guy died of it in our country doesn't relegate this kind of scandalous sensationalism.
Hope this helps,
FDC
A person with the Ebola virus is not infectious until symptoms present themselves. The virus l infects the cells causing the release of cytokines which kill or lyse the cell. Cytokines arts also released into the extracellular matrix that holds your body's endothelial cells and cellular matrix together. The cytokines released well inhibit the integrin that is integral in cellular attachment to extracellular matrix. The resultant condition causes hemorrhagic catastrophe to endothelial and mucous membranes that surround and protect your organs this causing you to basically bleed out internally.
The pathogen itself is thought to have come from fruit bats and passed to humans through tainted bush meat. It is endemic in areas of very poor health quality and medical facilities.
There are no known cures or vaccines, however the disease had been around since the 70's and has never spread to western countries where it consequently became endemic. Early detection followed by blood and antibiotic therapy have reduced the mortality rate to as low as 2% depending upon strain and treatment.
It is passed through bodily fluids and blood borne contacts. It was thought to be airborne but that has yet to be proven or substantiated.
That's what I know about it. It's with that knowledge that I can at with a fairly good to excellent level of confidence that Ebola is not a biological weapon used by the Obama administration to kill off random citizens in an effort to declare Marshall law and declare himself king, as hedge and ray said. I can also say with great certainty that we add a nation will never see this become a problem or epidemic in our country provided we use proper care and vigilance when it comes to prevention and education of all parties involved.
I'm fine with screening incoming flights, provided there was a way to effectively do that. There isn't, without absolute quarantine, however why should we have to pay for that? Shouldn't those leaving the affected country be screened and quarantined prior to leaving? How do you allow Liberia to detain and quarantine an American citizen? Imagine the criticism Obama would get then?
My point is, rather than spend the majority of our journalistic efforts twisting the public into knots, streaming a constant barrage of conjecture and supposition into the story, report the facts and what we as individual citizens need to do in order to help.
The fact that it's been around over forty years and only one guy died of it in our country doesn't relegate this kind of scandalous sensationalism.
Hope this helps,
FDC
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What a stupid statement. Or medical facilities never make mistakes, as if it is somehow reasonable to assume that we alone are the one country that should be able to remove the human factor from health care.
What flight restrictions do you recommend Saint? Which citizen are you going to pick out that will now gave to be detained in a foreign country and not allowed back in the country until you are satisfied? Which ones?
So a "good" comment basically consists of the old Jon Lovitz satire bit? Yeah, it's brilliant. Now that's a good comment.
They should do this, but its not problem solved, shit is here. Travel ban would help slow it down tho.
FDC
Great post. Good information on Ebola. Screening of inbound flights helps but your right, symptoms don't show for some time in some instances. In the days of plague, boats had to say off port for a month prior to unloading. Crazy notion I know. I am interested in containment personally and not who flips the bill or what some other opinion is of the master plan. Good luck with those discussions!
Hopefully you get to say "Hah! Told you so" when this is said and done! :toast:
Great post. Good information on Ebola. Screening of inbound flights helps but your right, symptoms don't show for some time in some instances. In the days of plague, boats had to say off port for a month prior to unloading. Crazy notion I know. I am interested in containment personally and not who flips the bill or what some other opinion is of the master plan. Good luck with those discussions!
Hopefully you get to say "Hah! Told you so" when this is said and done! :toast:
Cheers bro! As always, you da man. No I'm not going to get anywhere on the other points of no light. .. take care man.FDC
Great post. Good information on Ebola. Screening of inbound flights helps but your right, symptoms don't show for some time in some instances. In the days of plague, boats had to say off port for a month prior to unloading. Crazy notion I know. I am interested in containment personally and not who flips the bill or what some other opinion is of the master plan. Good luck with those discussions!
Hopefully you get to say "Hah! Told you so" when this is said and done! :toast:
Yes because that would prevent the disease from getting here! Perfect! Sound thinking! I say that because the U.S. stopped all flight travel to Cuba fifty years ago and nobody from America has ever set foot there since and vice versa! Brilliant!
Nor for nothing but just curious as to how many of you are glad you have the ACA now? You know now that Ebola is the latest panic fad. I ask because prior to the law blood transfusions from survivors was considered experimental and not covered by many insurance company policies. All that hazmat stuff the and protective measures that hospitals will have to spend millions on, won't be loaded on to you in your premiums now!
That ought to help things out.
That ought to help things out.
