no need for cops at all if people stopped breaking the law
death is not an appropriate sentence for being suspected of selling individual cigarettes or for being a 12-tear old carrying a bb gun
just sayin :0008
Baltimore Rioters Destroy Public Property, Loot Businesses
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no need for cops at all if people stopped breaking the law
death is not an appropriate sentence for being suspected of selling individual cigarettes or for being a 12-tear old carrying a bb gun
just sayin :0008
And it's easy making those comments after the fact.....Put on the Blue and a Badge and get back to me with your thoughts after a few weeks.....:0008
oh for cryin out loud
so because the job might be stressful, it excuses murder?
"protect and serve"
oh for cryin out loud
so because the job might be stressful, it excuses murder?
"protect and serve"
you're right, each one of those Cops woke up and said " I think I'll go kill someone today"......we need more passive peace keepers out there, should be a ton of people lining up for that job.....:0008
I see they looted a cvs pharmacy...that`s a good thing.....they should be nice and mellow by dark.....
Ay, yo, here comes Time Out," a young man on the opposite corner yelled, using a neighborhood term for police.
Gray swore, taking off on foot as the officers began hot-stepping on their pedals to catch up. One officer jumped off his bike to chase Gray on foot, police said.
"That was the last time I seen that man moving," said Washington, 48.
The 45-minute mystery of Freddie Gray's death
The Sun also found that accounts from residents conflicted with the official version of events, including a police account that Gray's arrest was made "without force or incident."
April 12, and investigators have focused on his stop-and-go, roundabout trip through the city in the metal cage of a police transport van. A lieutenant, a sergeant and four other officers involved in Gray's arrest and transport have been suspended with pay pending the results of the police investigation.
Still, much of what happened to Gray on the cool, partly cloudy and breezeless morning of April 12 remains a mystery.
Officials have declined to provide 911 call recordings related to Gray's arrest or injury, citing the open investigation, and police have declined to provide dispatch recordings that would contain any conversations between officers and dispatchers while Gray was in custody. The timeline for when and where the van stopped remains incomplete, and no time has been provided for the van's last stop, back on North Avenue for another pickup before its arrival at the Western District police station.
Insights into the critical minutes between Gray's arrest and the call for paramedics can be gleaned from residents who said they observed several interactions the police had with him.
Taken collectively, they make clear that Gray's arrest and transport were perceived as being wholly out of the ordinary ? even in an area where the drug trade makes an arrest a common occurrence.
The police chased the guy down because after making eye contact Freddie ran and they went after him. Legal or illegal, the switchblade is a side note as the police and commissioner said that the arrest was made without "force or incident" in other words according to them...
The reason Gray was chased by police remains unclear. Police have said it came in part because he ran, raising officers' suspicions in an area known for drug dealing. A police report on the arrest states that Gray "fled unprovoked" and that an illegal switchblade knife was later found on him but provides no other reason for the pursuit.
Neighborhood accounts vary on where Gray ran before reaching Presbury Street and being apprehended by police.
Washington said Gray dipped into "the cut" just south of West North Avenue, an alley that breaks into several directions in the center of a partially boarded-up block of rowhouses. It's a place strewn with broken liquor bottles, adjacent to backyards where dogs still keep watch.
Others say Gray ran straight south down Mount Street.
Deputy Commissioner Kevin Davis said Friday that one officer on foot and two on bikes chased Gray "through several streets, several housing complexes," before arresting him. "It's a foot chase and it's a long one."
Still, the arrest occurred just one minute after the initial contact, according to the police timeline.
Returning from Federal Hill, protesters block traffic on Light Street on a march by local residents on the eve of the expected large protest to City Hall over the recent death of local resident Freddie Gray, while in police custody. The march, done, they say, as a message that even a small group can cause large disruptions, began at Lexington Market, where about forty people walked in the streets through Harborplace, and finishing in Federal Hill before returning.
Community outrage over the arrest has been fueled by videos showing Gray ? listed on the police report at 5-foot-8 and 145 pounds ? on the ground before being dragged to the police van. Neighborhood residents and police agree that the videos don't show the whole story, though.
Kevin Moore, a 28-year-old friend of Gray's from Gilmor Homes, said he rushed outside when he heard Gray was being arrested and saw him "screaming for his life" with his face planted on the ground. One officer had his knee on Gray's neck, Moore said, and another was bending his legs backward.
"They had him folded up like he was a crab or a piece of origami," Moore said. "He was all bent up."
Into the van
At 8:42 a.m., police requested a transport van at the scene.
At that point Gray, who had asthma, asked for an inhaler, but Moore said police ignored the request.
Batts has said Gray's trouble breathing was not given the proper attention at "one or two" of the van's subsequent stops.
As Gray screamed and word spread, residents began to pour out of nearby homes. Alethea Booze, 71, who has lived along Mount Street just north of Presbury all her life, said she was cooking in her kitchen when she heard Gray "hollering" outside. Booze, a retired Northrop Grumman production coordinator, had a stroke some years ago and moves slowly, but made it outside nonetheless.
A crowd had started to form, she said, and there was Gray, who used to call her "Mama" and run errands for her to the corner store, lying handcuffed on the ground.
Booze said she winced as police hoisted Gray. His legs appeared broken to her, though police have said Gray suffered no broken bones. Bystanders got more vocal. "Call the ambulance!" Booze remembers saying as police tried to disperse the crowd.
"Police were telling everyone to leave because they didn't want anyone taping," Booze said. "They got real smart and nasty."
At least three cameras mounted on the Gilmor Homes buildings overlook the location, along a low stone wall on the edge of a courtyard. Police have released some footage, but it showed little of the arrest.
In a bystander's video Gray is shown being pulled to the van, his feet dragging, before standing briefly on his own as he's placed inside the van.
Police said he was upset ? but also breathing and talking.
Michael Robertson, 27, said his friend ? who had a record of drug arrests ? ran because he "had a history with that police beating him."
Placed in shackles
They had him folded up like he was a crab or a piece of origami. He was all bent up.
- Kevin Moore, a witness to Freddie Gray's arrest
One block south and four minutes later, at 8:46 a.m. at Mount and Baker streets, the van stopped because Gray was acting "irate," police said. Police have also said that paperwork had to be filled out, though they have not provided more detail.
Gray was taken out of the van so officers could place leg shackles on him. Police have said he was not buckled into the van with a seat belt afterward, even though that is required by department policy.
Shouts at the scene brought Tobias Sellers and others running down the street.
Sellers, 59, who is Booze's brother and lives on the same block, said he was among those who started moving toward Gray, and saw police beating him. "They were taking their black batons, whatever they are, and hitting him," Sellers said.
From inside her Gilmor Homes apartment, which overlooks the street north of Baker, Jacqueline Jackson, 53, heard "a big commotion" as she was washing dishes.
She lifted her blinds and window and peered out, looking down on the van. Gray, she said, looked unresponsive. Officers were moving quickly to get him back in the van as people ran down the street from Presbury, Jackson said.
"They lifted him up by his pants, and he wasn't responding, and they threw him in that paddy wagon," Jackson said. "It wasn't like they took him out to see what was going on with him. ? I said, 'Call the paramedics!'"
She added, "I could see everything. They're lying. The police are lying."
Police have said that a preliminary report on Gray's autopsy showed he had no injuries except to his spinal cord. No evidence of kicks, punches or other beatings. No evidence of broken limbs.
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if nothing is done or said when somethinglike this happens, it gives police open season on doing whatever they want to people.
its not right to get arrested and die for something like this.
how else do you make a point with police. They seem to not understand anything else as it continues on and on and on.
Gray swore, taking off on foot as the officers began hot-stepping on their pedals to catch up. One officer jumped off his bike to chase Gray on foot, police said.
"That was the last time I seen that man moving," said Washington, 48.
The 45-minute mystery of Freddie Gray's death
The Sun also found that accounts from residents conflicted with the official version of events, including a police account that Gray's arrest was made "without force or incident."
April 12, and investigators have focused on his stop-and-go, roundabout trip through the city in the metal cage of a police transport van. A lieutenant, a sergeant and four other officers involved in Gray's arrest and transport have been suspended with pay pending the results of the police investigation.
Still, much of what happened to Gray on the cool, partly cloudy and breezeless morning of April 12 remains a mystery.
Officials have declined to provide 911 call recordings related to Gray's arrest or injury, citing the open investigation, and police have declined to provide dispatch recordings that would contain any conversations between officers and dispatchers while Gray was in custody. The timeline for when and where the van stopped remains incomplete, and no time has been provided for the van's last stop, back on North Avenue for another pickup before its arrival at the Western District police station.
Insights into the critical minutes between Gray's arrest and the call for paramedics can be gleaned from residents who said they observed several interactions the police had with him.
Taken collectively, they make clear that Gray's arrest and transport were perceived as being wholly out of the ordinary ? even in an area where the drug trade makes an arrest a common occurrence.
The police chased the guy down because after making eye contact Freddie ran and they went after him. Legal or illegal, the switchblade is a side note as the police and commissioner said that the arrest was made without "force or incident" in other words according to them...
The reason Gray was chased by police remains unclear. Police have said it came in part because he ran, raising officers' suspicions in an area known for drug dealing. A police report on the arrest states that Gray "fled unprovoked" and that an illegal switchblade knife was later found on him but provides no other reason for the pursuit.
Neighborhood accounts vary on where Gray ran before reaching Presbury Street and being apprehended by police.
Washington said Gray dipped into "the cut" just south of West North Avenue, an alley that breaks into several directions in the center of a partially boarded-up block of rowhouses. It's a place strewn with broken liquor bottles, adjacent to backyards where dogs still keep watch.
Others say Gray ran straight south down Mount Street.
Deputy Commissioner Kevin Davis said Friday that one officer on foot and two on bikes chased Gray "through several streets, several housing complexes," before arresting him. "It's a foot chase and it's a long one."
Still, the arrest occurred just one minute after the initial contact, according to the police timeline.
Returning from Federal Hill, protesters block traffic on Light Street on a march by local residents on the eve of the expected large protest to City Hall over the recent death of local resident Freddie Gray, while in police custody. The march, done, they say, as a message that even a small group can cause large disruptions, began at Lexington Market, where about forty people walked in the streets through Harborplace, and finishing in Federal Hill before returning.
Community outrage over the arrest has been fueled by videos showing Gray ? listed on the police report at 5-foot-8 and 145 pounds ? on the ground before being dragged to the police van. Neighborhood residents and police agree that the videos don't show the whole story, though.
Kevin Moore, a 28-year-old friend of Gray's from Gilmor Homes, said he rushed outside when he heard Gray was being arrested and saw him "screaming for his life" with his face planted on the ground. One officer had his knee on Gray's neck, Moore said, and another was bending his legs backward.
"They had him folded up like he was a crab or a piece of origami," Moore said. "He was all bent up."
Into the van
At 8:42 a.m., police requested a transport van at the scene.
At that point Gray, who had asthma, asked for an inhaler, but Moore said police ignored the request.
Batts has said Gray's trouble breathing was not given the proper attention at "one or two" of the van's subsequent stops.
As Gray screamed and word spread, residents began to pour out of nearby homes. Alethea Booze, 71, who has lived along Mount Street just north of Presbury all her life, said she was cooking in her kitchen when she heard Gray "hollering" outside. Booze, a retired Northrop Grumman production coordinator, had a stroke some years ago and moves slowly, but made it outside nonetheless.
A crowd had started to form, she said, and there was Gray, who used to call her "Mama" and run errands for her to the corner store, lying handcuffed on the ground.
Booze said she winced as police hoisted Gray. His legs appeared broken to her, though police have said Gray suffered no broken bones. Bystanders got more vocal. "Call the ambulance!" Booze remembers saying as police tried to disperse the crowd.
"Police were telling everyone to leave because they didn't want anyone taping," Booze said. "They got real smart and nasty."
At least three cameras mounted on the Gilmor Homes buildings overlook the location, along a low stone wall on the edge of a courtyard. Police have released some footage, but it showed little of the arrest.
In a bystander's video Gray is shown being pulled to the van, his feet dragging, before standing briefly on his own as he's placed inside the van.
Police said he was upset ? but also breathing and talking.
Michael Robertson, 27, said his friend ? who had a record of drug arrests ? ran because he "had a history with that police beating him."
Placed in shackles
They had him folded up like he was a crab or a piece of origami. He was all bent up.
- Kevin Moore, a witness to Freddie Gray's arrest
One block south and four minutes later, at 8:46 a.m. at Mount and Baker streets, the van stopped because Gray was acting "irate," police said. Police have also said that paperwork had to be filled out, though they have not provided more detail.
Gray was taken out of the van so officers could place leg shackles on him. Police have said he was not buckled into the van with a seat belt afterward, even though that is required by department policy.
Shouts at the scene brought Tobias Sellers and others running down the street.
Sellers, 59, who is Booze's brother and lives on the same block, said he was among those who started moving toward Gray, and saw police beating him. "They were taking their black batons, whatever they are, and hitting him," Sellers said.
From inside her Gilmor Homes apartment, which overlooks the street north of Baker, Jacqueline Jackson, 53, heard "a big commotion" as she was washing dishes.
She lifted her blinds and window and peered out, looking down on the van. Gray, she said, looked unresponsive. Officers were moving quickly to get him back in the van as people ran down the street from Presbury, Jackson said.
"They lifted him up by his pants, and he wasn't responding, and they threw him in that paddy wagon," Jackson said. "It wasn't like they took him out to see what was going on with him. ? I said, 'Call the paramedics!'"
She added, "I could see everything. They're lying. The police are lying."
Police have said that a preliminary report on Gray's autopsy showed he had no injuries except to his spinal cord. No evidence of kicks, punches or other beatings. No evidence of broken limbs.
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if nothing is done or said when somethinglike this happens, it gives police open season on doing whatever they want to people.
its not right to get arrested and die for something like this.
how else do you make a point with police. They seem to not understand anything else as it continues on and on and on.
How many arrests have been made nation wide in the last year?.......And how many deaths from those arrests?......I'd say the people doing this job are doing so quite well overall.......:toast:
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wow Sportaholic just cause ur an mod here doesn't empower u to say stupid stuff without comment. U don't own the place .u r the one who is simple. put on black skin for a lifetime and get pulled over by cops for no reason all ur life and U may have a different perspective. all of u guys scratching ur heads about the "why" of this and saying stupid shit about blacks commtting all the crimes? u r absolute RACISTS if u cant understand whats going on here. the guy in north Carolina had a white cop bust through a door of his house and taser him in his own living room and he had the wrong house!! the cops investigated though and decided no reprimand was necessary. that's the justice we serve black America u insensitive dolts. suppose they tasered you in your own home sporta holic? Would u be so confidently and smugly supporting killer cops? I don't think so. all of you guys have lead relative lives of privilege. there have been 28 fatal shootings in the last five years in fucking albuqurque alone, the last one was a homeless black guy camping outside. if ur the underbelly u get treated differently than the sportsaholics, the skulniks of the world. u guys have no empathy. a liberal cares about people that they never met in their life and will never meet. a conservative has NO care, no empathy abouts groups of people that they are not a part of. I know that applies uniformly to u guys so smugly piling on the rioters. Get an education. work ur way up the ladder, dont break the law. sure its that easy for everyone. we all start even. this thread makes me sick. don't worry about banning me. I wont come back, Jack to the racist forum of conservative madjackers. and fuck you especialy Sportaholic and Skulnik. u guys belong in the conservative racist hall of shame. Joker too for starting the post.
so jack`s a racist?....
way to paint with a big broad brush,jackass...there are plenty of folks of all stripes in the forum and they all have the right to an opinion...I know you like to shut out all differing opinions but that`s not how it works(at least for now)...
don`t let the door hit you in the ass...
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try putting on my skechers and t-shirt and see if you have the same attitude after a couple weeks of ebay trading and pub trivia
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Look, they are in a convenience sore now- - oh wait,
this is from another time when nobody did anything to them, never mind.
