Bergdahl being charged as a deserter

[lowell]

What a trade by our government. Giving up 5 Taliban to get back an Army deserter . 4 or 5 brave men died trying to find this deserter and yet Susan Rice said "He served with honor and distinction".
At least Obama got to fondle Mrs. B in the Rose Garden. Hope Mr. B. keep growing his Taliban beard until Bo gets out of the stockade.
With a trade like this is it any wonder some are worried about Barry negotiating with the Iranians?
Is it too late or can we trade him back for the 5 Taliban?

 

[SEND IT]

Add another disaster to the extensive list of why Obama will go down in history as the worst President Ever!
This SOB should be doing hard labor in USDB Leavenworth with that traitor Bergdahl.
His blatant disregard for the security and well being of this country is a disgrace at best.
Congratulations on exchanging five high level terrorist that soon will be free to again kill Americans for a treasonist POS.

In the words of Hillary the Benghazi Butcher ... At this point what difference does it make.

I'll TELL YOU! THE DIFFERENCE IS PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET KILLED BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE INCOMPETENT FKN GARBAGE!

 

[REFLOG]

Great trade, hand over 5 terrorist for 1 guy who hates his country. Now 3 of those 5 terrorist are already back in action. Maybe we can trade Mr Ketchup Lurch to get the terrorists back.

 

[hedgehog]

Notice the usual suspects that defend obama are not in this thread :mj07: ironic isn't it

 

[lowell]

And now we are supposed to trust they can negotiate with Iran without Congress being involved?

 

[Mags]

Let's look at the bright side... up until now, the Herschel Walker NFL trade to the Vikings from the Cowboys was viewed as the worst trade in American history....

Now, we have a new worst trade in American History - Bo Bergdahl, deserter, for 5 top Taliban commanders.

Just wait until one of those "Fab 5" kill Americans again. That will all be blood directly on Obama's hands - as he alone authorized this "trade".

I don't agree with much of what Obama does - but for the life of me, I can't understand how anyone could make such a stupid deal. What could be his rationale? The closest thing I can think of is, the military leaves no body behind. But that only applied to American solders. Once this POS defected, he no longer was one of ours, and we had no reason to get him back. He made his bed, and should have been left to lie in it.

Another bright side - I would imagine that similar fates befall defectors in military prisons as does child molesters in US prisons. Thinking of what will happen to Bergdahl does bring a smile to my face.

 

[Duff Miver]

Let's look at the bright side... up until now, the Herschel Walker NFL trade to the Vikings from the Cowboys was viewed as the worst trade in American history....

Now, we have a new worst trade in American History - Bo Bergdahl, deserter, for 5 top Taliban commanders.

Just wait until one of those "Fab 5" kill Americans again. That will all be blood directly on Obama's hands - as he alone authorized this "trade".

I don't agree with much of what Obama does - but for the life of me, I can't understand how anyone could make such a stupid deal. What could be his rationale? The closest thing I can think of is, the military leaves no body behind. But that only applied to American solders. Once this POS defected, he no longer was one of ours, and we had no reason to get him back. He made his bed, and should have been left to lie in it.

Another bright side - I would imagine that similar fates befall defectors in military prisons as does child molesters in US prisons. Thinking of what will happen to Bergdahl does bring a smile to my face.

We always try to get our own back, you fucking Maggot. That's what it means to serve the USA. We will find you, and we will do whatever is necessary to bring you home. We value our men, and we never desert them. Never. If you have behaved dishonorably, we will deal with that when we have you back.

And that's the reason that people like Bergdahl are so exceptionally rare.

But a non-serving cowardly Maggot obviously can't understand that. You make me puke.

 

[Mags]

Dang it Duff:

I was hoping when that you were the US person on the Germanwings flight yesterday. The US, and MJ's, would be so much better off without a miserable f-u-c-k like you around.

FYI, just like when your wife leaves you (which I'm sure at least one has already, if not more), she is no longer you wife, same with personnel that serve and voluntarily leave to join the opposing side. At that point, they are no longer one of us.

But, I'm done wasting my time with you - as many other MJ'ers are. You are not a good person, and we can only thank God that you are old and hopefully will be gone soon. It's just too bad you weren't on that flight.

 

[shawn555]

Dang it Duff:

I was hoping when that you were the US person on the Germanwings flight yesterday. The US, and MJ's, would be so much better off without a miserable f-u-c-k like you around.

FYI, just like when your wife leaves you (which I'm sure at least one has already, if not more), she is no longer you wife, same with personnel that serve and voluntarily leave to join the opposing side. At that point, they are no longer one of us.

But, I'm done wasting my time with you - as many other MJ'ers are. You are not a good person, and we can only thank God that you are old and hopefully will be gone soon. It's just too bad you weren't on that flight.

Yeah you sound like a real terrific person as well.

I always thought you left no man behind nonsense, even if it is for him to face justice. :shrug:

 

[Jaxx]

Duff you are a certified idiot if you think trading 5 top Taliban commanders for one deserter is a good trade.
Yea leave no one behind. But at what cost. I can see why your are puking. Cant get the bad taste out of your mouth.

Khirullah Said Wali Khairkhwa

This 47-year-old was once the Taliban's interior minister, actually helping to create the Taliban movement in 1994. His Guantanamo case file, released by WikiLeaks, described him as a ?hard-liner in his support of the Taliban philosophy? and ?known to have close ties to Osama bin Laden.?

Captured by Pakistani border patrol on Feb. 16 2002.

Mullah Mohammad Fazl

Also 47, Fazi was a senior commander in the Taliban army during the 1990s, eventually becoming its chief of staff. He is thought to have personally supervised the killing of thousands of Shiite Muslims near Kabul between 1998 and 2001. His Guantanamo case file also describes him as being present at a 2001 prison riot that led to the death of CIA operative Johnny Michael Spann, the first U.S. citizen killed in the Afghan war. "If released, detainee would likely rejoin the Taliban and establish ties with ACM elements participating in hostilities against US and Coalition forces in Afghanistan," his case file reads.

Fazi surrendered to a Northern Alliance commander in November 2001, and was transferred to U.S. custody in December.

Mullah Norullah Noori

Noori, 47, was a provincial governor in several areas during the Taliban regime. He is also believed to have been present during Spann's death and may have also been involved in the Shiite massacre. His Guantanamo case file says that he "continues to be a significant figure encouraging acts of aggression."

Noori turned himself in to a Northern Alliance commander in November 2001.

Abdul Haq Wasiq

Wasiq, 43, was the deputy chief of intelligence for the Taliban. According to his Guantanamo case file, he ?utilized his office to support al Qaeda? and was ?central to the Taliban?s effort to form alliances with other Islamic fundamentalist groups.?

Wasiq was detained in November 2001.

Mohammed Nabi Omari

Omari, 46, was a member of a joint al-Qaeda-Taliban cell in eastern Khost province, according to his case file, and ?one of the most significant former Taliban leaders detained? at Guantanamo.

Omari was captured in September 2002.

 

[Duff Miver]

The deal for Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl?s return has hardly generated the praise the Obama administration might have hoped. Hard questions abound.

Will negotiating with terrorists encourage them to snatch more Americans? Is freeing five hardened Taliban leaders too steep a price? Is Congress rightly upset by a president who may have defied the law in releasing Guantanamo detainees?

Most troubling are emerging questions about the circumstances of Bergdahl?s capture. Was he a true victim of war or a deserter whose actions jeopardized fellow soldiers called upon to search for him?

All these uncertainties invite second-guessing, even claims of partisan political machinations.

But is our cynicism about government so deep that we can?t conceive that maybe, just maybe, it does something because it is the right thing to do? Even when the reward seems opaque and the cost is great?

The principle of leaving no one behind ? no matter the cost ? is deeply embedded in the U.S. military. Those in uniform believe that no stone will be left unturned to get them home if they fall into enemy hands.

Today, the phrase is often attributed to the elite U.S. Army Rangers, who have the language as part of their creed: "I will never leave a fallen comrade to fall into the hands of the enemy."

Similar language can be found in the Soldier's Creed -- "I will never leave a fallen comrade" -- as well as the Airman's Creed -- "I will never leave an Airman behind." The Latin version, nemo resideo, is even the motto of the Marine Corps' Personnel Retrieval and Processing Company, the team charged with retrieving the remains of fallen service members from the battlefield.

We were honor bound to retrieve Bergdahl, whatever the cost. If he committed a dishonorable, cowardly or treasonous act, then, and only then, we will prosecute and punish him. None of those things have yet been proven.

And deciding Berghdal's fate will be done by a military tribunal. It has nothing to do with the opinions of Limbaugh, Fox News or any of you high-and-mighty internet jerkoffs.

 

[fatdaddycool]

Hey how many VC and Chinese operatives did we trade to get John McCain back? It was far more than five. Remember Ronnie Reagan selling arms to Iran while they were under a blockade? Hey do you know that we sold arms to the Taliban? Yep sure did. We armed or enemies just do they would not be defeated by the Russians.
And you are bitching about a soldier that was brought back home from a felonious war that this president didn't start and was trying to do the right thing by bringing back one of or own. The fact that he traded five enemy combatants that are not and will but be historically significant is nothing new to this country.
I'm going to ask a serious question. If you notice I have not called it anyone specifically and have kept this message civil and adult, I'm truly hoping that this one time we can answer the question with equal measure.
What is your regard for history? When a topic like this one comes up and I read the responses I am most often left asking that question. What I mean is, when you read the article(s) concerning this does it occur to anyone that this practice may not be the pilot, maybe it's happened before. Do you just not remember all that stuff? Do you tune out on purpose because your mindset is simply anti-Obama or anti-Democrat and you don't care? Do you remember it yet tell yourself that past instances were "different"?

I assure you all, I'm not trying to be shitty on this. I know that there are times I have had to rethink my position on issues when presented with something I couldn't justify to myself. I am certainly a liberal in many ways but not all. I don't align myself with any party but would be generalized as a Democrat or Libertarian. I have found myself being too singular in debate at times and you can make all the shitty comments you want, they won't be a reflection on me.
What I'm getting at is there are several of you guys in this forum who's intelligence and general persona I respect and like. I am never shitty to skul, I got crossed up with Shawn sine time ago and that is all behind us and I like and respect the guy. I can't even stay mad at Jaxx because he's actually a rather stand up guy it's just his politics are messed up. .. ha. Mags you seem intelligent, you strike me as a bit elitist but it's that's based on very limited conversations. I don't like hedge though.
I'm just curious as to your mindset and why you're so upset about this when you realize we did the same thing for McCain?

 

[hedgehog]

I don't like hedge though.

you know what FDC, I am willing to make peace with you even though you threatened to kill me. I have said some rude and hateful things about you and to you. I apologize for my part

Have a nice weekend

 

[fatdaddycool]

Have a good weekend as well hedge. I appreciate the post and the fact you apologized. I'm sorry for my part in it as well.

 

[hedgehog]

Have a good weekend as well hedge. I appreciate the post and the fact you apologized. I'm sorry for my part in it as well.

Seriously FDC, I am sorry. its gone too far. Check your email

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

Why should we be afraid of these cave dwelling masterminds? At this point, I can't figure out who the Republicans are telling me to be afraid of. Taliban, ISIS, Al Queda, Iran, North Korea, Assad, Boko Haram. It goes on and on. Fear = money. Keep buying in and they'll keep pumping money into the defense budget.

 

[MadJack]

you know what FDC, I am willing to make peace with you even though you threatened to kill me. I have said some rude and hateful things about you and to you. I apologize for my part

Have a nice weekend

Have a good weekend as well hedge. I appreciate the post and the fact you apologized. I'm sorry for my part in it as well.

Seriously FDC, I am sorry. its gone too far. Check your email

 

[fatdaddycool]

Seriously FDC, I am sorry. its gone too far. Check your email

I checked it and I don't have anything but I may have accidentally deleted it from my phone. I have a bad habit of doing that work my yahoo account. I'll look around a bit more this evening.

I am sorry as well hedge and you're right it did go to far. I am glad you reached out. That says a lot.

 

[hedgehog]

I checked it and I don't have anything but I may have accidentally deleted it from my phone. I have a bad habit of doing that work my yahoo account. I'll look around a bit more this evening.

I am sorry as well hedge and you're right it did go to far. I am glad you reached out. That says a lot.

:0008

 

[THE KOD]

I am sorry as well hedge and you're right it did go to far. I am glad you reached out. That says a lot.

that is the 3 rd time you have fallen for that with hedge.:142smilie

you never learn


I have to conclude your a pussychops.