Boxing 8/1 - 8/4

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Marquez over Vasquez -260...lay 1.05 to win .40


The more I think about it, the more I like Marquez in this fight. Rafael hasn't lost a fight in 7 or 8 years and he gets better every time I watch him. Silence Mabuza is a very good fighter, and while he was able to outbox Marquez in several of the rounds they faced each other, Marquez always shut down any kind of momentum he had with very big shots. Mabuza is a tough guy for sure, which shows just how hard Marquez punches.

Vasquez on the other hand has not been nearly as impressive lately. His performance against Geurrero wasn't good at all, and even though he dropped Larios in the 1st round of their rematch, he was getting beat in that fight until a cut over Larios' eye stopped the fight giving Vasquez a gift tko win. Vasquez' loss to Larios in the first fight was legit. And Vasquez was getting the sh*t beat out of him by Gonzalez for 9 rounds until he landed a few good shots and turned the tide on the naturally smaller guy.

My initial play on Vasquez was based on the decent + money and the fact that Vasquez was coming on a bit at the end of their last fight. But he was down on 2 cards and even on 1 card when the fight was stopped. So Vasquez will have to be even better in this fight to get it done, and the nose problems not having sufficient time to heal will eventually come into play, probably sooner than later.

After an early value play on Vasquez, I'm now fully on Marquez in this fight


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[BOXLOCKS]

gw...sportsbetting.com has Marquez at -260, they also allow boxing parlays, and their favorites are usually much cheaper than 5dimes making your parlays pay much better on a consistent basis. I think I brought this up a while back. The -260 is much better than -330 regardless of whether you parlay it or play it straight. SB's favorites are consistently lower

There's only 4 solid boxing books that allow US customers, why not have an account at all of them?


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[BOXLOCKS]

Davis stopped Bobo in the 6th round

Bobo reminds me of Wes Ferguson, a good boxer but not enough power in his shots to keep the punchers off him

Oh well, just a small value play


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[frank s.]

I use 5Dimes; SB.com; and Bodog; what other? The "won't go the distance" prop ain't up, but based on the other lines out, it should be -250. Marquez supposedly has fists which are heat seeking missiles and are accurate. The nose knows!

 

[BOXLOCKS]

I don't use bodog, but I'll look into it more

Olympic (thegreek) is a must have book for boxing....the other book I use is...bookmaker or betmaker...they are the same thing

No parlays allowed at the any of those books, does bodog allow parlays? I've seen their boxing odds in the past and they were very wide

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[gardenweasel]

i`ll look into that sportsbetting,bro......sounds interesting....

and oly?....they`ve really picked up the pace.....was a time when they were practically useless for boxing....

i still had some change in oly....trying to build it back up with some sure things....

btw...that article you posted was excellent,b.l.....

that`s what this place is all about....

thanks....

 

[Romi]

Mine was a small play then I went and wagered the over to cover bobo....fckkkkk. My bad.

 

[MayorgaFan]

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Not trying to step on anyone's toes but I wouldn't recommend sportsbook.com or sportsbetting.com. They are under the same umbella. Back before the law passed sportsbook was great. Now? it takes them 1-2 months for a payout. that is awfull. :nono: Bodog takes quite a while to but at least they are up front about it. I don't play at either of those places. I would love to play at sportsbook but it they are taking forever now what happens when the UIGEA is actually written up?:shrug: Bookmaker is good, thegreek is good and 5dimes is good. Those are the only 3 I would recommend.

 

[MayorgaFan]

BTW, requested a 4 digit check from thegreek on Monday, received it today. Took a whopping 2 days. No excuses for taking months.

 

[Zerwas]

I like Marquez in this fight, but Vazquez looked by far the stronger of the two in their last fight.

I also think Vazquez took the punches from Marquez remarkbly well. If his nose holds up this fight might go longer than many expect.

Marquez will probably win this fight and likely by ko, but the odds on either event or just not worth the risk.

Vazquez by ko at +506 and Marquez by decision at +582 might have some value...

 

[punchmaster]

Just rewatched the first fight and what a fight- that was some high end stuff, some of the best I've seen. What suprised me a bit was that Vazquez landed another wicked left hand in the seventh round and Marquez took it very well. The sixth and seventh rounds were not bad at all for Vazquez, he won at least one of them. Marquez's precision power punching is frightening but he's always one hard Vazquez counterpunch from getting dropped. Can't wait to see the rematch.

 

[Andrey]

Intresting info. Could you tell me how much max wager on outright boxing bet in thegreek?

BTW, requested a 4 digit check from thegreek on Monday, received it today. Took a whopping 2 days. No excuses for taking months.

 

[BOXLOCKS]

Not trying to step on anyone's toes but I wouldn't recommend sportsbook.com or sportsbetting.com. They are under the same umbella. Back before the law passed sportsbook was great. Now? it takes them 1-2 months for a payout. that is awfull. :nono: Bodog takes quite a while to but at least they are up front about it. I don't play at either of those places. I would love to play at sportsbook but it they are taking forever now what happens when the UIGEA is actually written up?:shrug: Bookmaker is good, thegreek is good and 5dimes is good. Those are the only 3 I would recommend.

You're right, 5dimes and thegreek are much faster when it comes to payouts. But I just received two checks from FedEx and DHL...one check was from sportsbetting and one was from sports which is a sister site of SB under the same umbrella as you said.

Yes, it took about 30 days to get my checks from both places, but I got my money and thats all that matters to me. I've got plenty of cash sitting around from my real job, I'm not in a hurry to get paid from my sportsbook.

Sportsbetting is the first book to open the weekly lines and getting the openers is very important. They also have consistently lower favorites and allow parlays. To me its worth having to wait a little to get paid, as long as I get the openers and the best prices out there...I'm fine with the wait


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[gardenweasel]

Just rewatched the first fight and what a fight- that was some high end stuff, some of the best I've seen. What suprised me a bit was that Vazquez landed another wicked left hand in the seventh round and Marquez took it very well. The sixth and seventh rounds were not bad at all for Vazquez, he won at least one of them. Marquez's precision power punching is frightening but he's always one hard Vazquez counterpunch from getting dropped. Can't wait to see the rematch.

i watched it again...an amazing fight..real,experienced world class fighters....what stood out to me was the absence of clinching and rough housing that we`ve all become accustomed to......

but,i`m not as sure about the inside the distance props as i was previously.....

seems that when vasquez went into aggressive panic mode around the 6th round,marquez was content to box.....and imo,it wasn`t serving him as well...vasquez was doing much better pressing the issue.......what i`m saying is that when vasquez was giving marquez distance early,marquez was boxing and mixing in some very hard,slashing combinations...even being a great counter puncher,he wasn`t able to this quite as well while backing up....obviously having to consider vasquez` offense...

as superb and in control as marquez was through 5,i thought that vasquez really made him uncomfortable with the pressure...and aside from the nose,i didn`t see vasquez in the kind of difficulty that would lead me to believe he was going to get stopped.........the guy is very durable...of course with these guys,this fight could turn on a dime..

i hope he realizes that he can`t stand outside and take a beating for 5 or 6 rounds before implementing the aggressive strategy he needs to have a shot at winning....cause i can see a scenario in which vasquez dicks around,falls behind,and marquez outpoints him....

i hope that vasquez learned from his mistakes in the first fight...while being aggressive from the jump increases vasquez` punishment quotient,it`s his best strategy....to press and work that body early on....

i`m heavier on marquez inside the distance....but i can win a little with a vasquez stoppage...

actually,i`m sorry i went the "inside the distance" route...

thankfully,we`ve all been on a hot streak and i can afford a medium sized clubbing...

 

[Romi]

Just rewatched the first fight and what a fight- that was some high end stuff, some of the best I've seen. What suprised me a bit was that Vazquez landed another wicked left hand in the seventh round and Marquez took it very well. The sixth and seventh rounds were not bad at all for Vazquez, he won at least one of them. Marquez's precision power punching is frightening but he's always one hard Vazquez counterpunch from getting dropped. Can't wait to see the rematch.

I watched it late last night. I had Marquez 5-2 with the 3rd rd being 10-8 for Vas. Marq was easily winning that rd before getting dropped. Marq also came back well after the 3rd rd. That was a wicked shot Vas landed and Marq never saw it. I thought it was more of an uppercut than a hook like it was called. I gave Vas rd 7 but I'm not convinced he was coming on like he claims. I thought he was getting broken down and it was essentially his last stand. He said he won't be as agressive but i think it's his only chance. If he stays on the outside, he gets murdered. I was very impressed w/Marq. He showed a very good variety of punches and his chin held up well against some good shots. I was going to lay off this @-280 but now I think I'm going to put a few bucks on marq. I think Vas needs a KO to win and I think Marq will be the one who learned from the first fight. I like Marq by ko in the mid rds.

 

[punchmaster]

You're right, 5dimes and thegreek are much faster when it comes to payouts. But I just received two checks from FedEx and DHL...one check was from sportsbetting and one was from sports which is a sister site of SB under the same umbrella as you said.

Yes, it took about 30 days to get my checks from both places, but I got my money and thats all that matters to me. I've got plenty of cash sitting around from my real job, I'm not in a hurry to get paid from my sportsbook.

Sportsbetting is the first book to open the weekly lines and getting the openers is very important. They also have consistently lower favorites and allow parlays. To me its worth having to wait a little to get paid, as long as I get the openers and the best prices out there...I'm fine with the wait


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That's good to know BL, because I've had a decent chunk of change in sportsbetting.com for a while. Definitely a key part of my boxing wagering arsenal. I've luckily had no need to withdraw since 06. There are a lot of people bitching in long ass threads, worrying for a while if they were ever going to get paid, now saying some of the checks are from banks in Lebanon. Apparently many of their check processors said I'm out of here when Uncle Sam decided to come get theirs.

 

[Romi]

Here's a parlay for you Romi- Diaz +17.5 points -495, with the current line on Kendall Holt -140 to bring it to +106- I like.

Thx Punch. If it goes the distance, then the cards should be somewhat close either way. I can't see Morales getting a second life here and running away on the cards. I like Holt to win as well.

 

[frank s.]

GW-I feel your pain as far as "inside the distance", however as much as Vazquez is assuring us his nose is just ducky, I have my doubts. We all know how an old injury can appear quite readily when provoked. With Marquez being such a sharpshooter, I see him targeting the nose for sure. If he does indeed cause Vazquez concern that he may have to retire AGAIN due to this problem, he may go ballistic. This is where trouble starts. I also saw the fight going the distance first time around. This is different. I see both going for the kill from the jump. I stand by my inside play.

 

[tonymontana]

My plays are :

Marquez pretty big straight at -250 and in two medium parlays one with st.pierre and one with Diaz.

I believe that this fight will be alot easier for Marquez this time. Roach pushed me over the edge on this one.

@gardenweasel
you are right that Vasquez had a good 6 and 7 round. But Vasquez was going all out. He was feeling he cant breath and let it all hang out. Marquez was fighting at a pace to go 12.
Romi described it perfectly "last stand".

Marquez can make things alot easier if he uses alot long 1-2 combos and moves a little bit more ala Gonzales. He has a beautiful jab that he landed several times right one the nose as a double. It was a double jab that made Vasquez turn away.

I covered my ass with a Vasquez inside +St.pierre+Liddell at +1000. (hope i dont need it though)

2.Second play Diaz straight and a little inside . Probably between rounds 8 and 10.

I dont feel very strong about it but my hot guy who is really on a streak has this as his only play for this weekend. He has basically the same opinion like Romi Morales is done and Diaz is too big for him.
I dont like that Diaz was this far behind on the scorecards against Santa cruz. But i follow diligently the wisdom of people who know more about boxing than I do.

 

[punchmaster]

GW, just like vegasman Frank S thinks, I think your inside the distance action will hold up just fine. Both fighters are wired for inside the distance bouts. If Vazquez fallls behind on the cards, he's going to be pressing to turn the fight around. For the record. I hope Vazquez gets through with a fight-stopping shot to the chin and we're blessed with a trilogy!!!!!!