Now he does :0008
I agree with this.
You're right, but he brings up some damn good points. Brady knew and so did the whole organization.
The video is at the top of his fan page: https://www.facebook.com/NFL.Shannon.Sharpe?fref=ts
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Brady 4 games - Pats $1 million fine ! Lose draft picks
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Now he does :0008
I agree with this.
You're right, but he brings up some damn good points. Brady knew and so did the whole organization.
The video is at the top of his fan page: https://www.facebook.com/NFL.Shannon.Sharpe?fref=ts
kneifl
even if Brady came out and said he instructed those guys to deflate less than 12.5, a 4 game suspension, the fines and picks are fair enough punishment, you guys lose me at yearly suspension, guys looking for more seems like sour grapes
You do not need freaking proof. Just as in the murdering Hernandez. No freaking proof. Just Circumstantial evidence but guilty all the same. Ever heard of it? It all points to Brady. The NFL knows he did it or they would not be giving him 4 games. Personally I like Brady but he took the wrong route totally denying he had anything at all to do with it. He lied. A liar has not integrity.
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Hernandez put himself at the scene of the crime and claimed someone else did it, in that state it makes him guilty.
Brady is guilty IMO but there is shadow of doubt be it small. the NFL is above the law in punishment as we have seen.
so a 30 year employee and a 15 year employee decided amongst themselves to decide all of a sudden to deflate balls :shrug:
gimme a break :facepalm:
gimme a break :facepalm:
So you must agree then that Rodgers, Rivers, Newton, and Bridgewater should also all be suspended and fined immediately to the exact same degree right?
You also seem to think that there is a mountain of circumstantial evidence in this case. I'd be very excited to see you lay it all out for me. The mountain I mean. You must have something mentioning deflating the ball below the legal limit. Ball boys inflate and deflate balls all the time, especially when they're over inflated such as the only ball where psi was ever mentioned anywhere that was at 16 psi. I'd be really happy to see where it is that you see Tom Brady telling anyone anything.
So with your analogy, Brady didn't put himself in the officials room with the balls like hernandez was in the car when the guy was killed. Brady wasn't in possession of a smoking gun hernandez was. Brady didn't have a single individual say he did it, hernandez had his girlfriend testify against him. Yeah they are just alike.
If you want to believe this bullshit rises to the level of guilt, fine, just make sure you're as vocal about the exact and punishment being leveled against the four other guilty quarterbacks. You won't be because you're wrong but okay.
Hope this helps,
FDC
And you ALWAYS NEED PROOF! ! Since when don't you need proof when determining guilt? Every single institution including the NFL needs proof to determine if an individual broke the rules. Every single one. Since when don't you need proof? There is no because I said so when punishing someone for breaking a rule give me a break
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So it's not possible or even likely that Brady bitched about the footballs feeling like bricks after an Oct. game in which they were over 13.5 psi and then asked the guys to take the air down as low as allowed (12.5) where he likes it. The guys start doing it and have been doing it, sometimes they don't have time to check them all after they let some air out, ie. vs Indy. There was about 1:40 according to Wells and the video.
Brady knowing good and well who would and could have done it says nothing, doesn't rat them out. :shrug:
This would make him a stand up guy and not in the least guilty of breaking the rules.
He would have been a fool to give them any texts or emails, they can be used to paint just about anything without proper context. In fact it seems to me like the guys were tired of Brady bitching about rock hard footballs and they were jokingly going to add air to them instead, 16 psi...
Isn't it possible he never said anything about lowering them below 12.5?
The Wells report doesn't prove much other than two guys were involved in adjusting football pressure for the Patriots. Strangely the report attempts to document and compare 11 Patriot games balls tested at halftime with ONLY four Indy balls?? WTF, you cannot make any comparison when it's 11 on one hand and 4 on the other??
More communication between them after the investigation you ask? Well of course there was, what are they supposed to do, ignore each other and not ask anything.
Brady paying them with memorabilia? Some have said he has a history of being generous with this type of thing and it's nothing new.
I think if you held preconceived notions of them cheating before you probably feel the report supports this claim again. An honest, unbiased look at this would lead you to have more questions than answers.
Interesting side story here:
http://www.businessinsider.com/patriots-think-wells-report-was-biased-2015-5
Brady knowing good and well who would and could have done it says nothing, doesn't rat them out. :shrug:
This would make him a stand up guy and not in the least guilty of breaking the rules.
He would have been a fool to give them any texts or emails, they can be used to paint just about anything without proper context. In fact it seems to me like the guys were tired of Brady bitching about rock hard footballs and they were jokingly going to add air to them instead, 16 psi...
Isn't it possible he never said anything about lowering them below 12.5?
The Wells report doesn't prove much other than two guys were involved in adjusting football pressure for the Patriots. Strangely the report attempts to document and compare 11 Patriot games balls tested at halftime with ONLY four Indy balls?? WTF, you cannot make any comparison when it's 11 on one hand and 4 on the other??
More communication between them after the investigation you ask? Well of course there was, what are they supposed to do, ignore each other and not ask anything.
Brady paying them with memorabilia? Some have said he has a history of being generous with this type of thing and it's nothing new.
I think if you held preconceived notions of them cheating before you probably feel the report supports this claim again. An honest, unbiased look at this would lead you to have more questions than answers.
Interesting side story here:
http://www.businessinsider.com/patriots-think-wells-report-was-biased-2015-5
Dude you don't get it. The NFL is judge, jury, and executioner. This is not a public court case. No smoking gun needed. New England is guilty of conduct detrimental to the league, period. Goodell has a long history of fining and suspending players, coaches, and teams with little evidence.
Personally, I think the league is public opinion driven when it comes to this, like the Ray Rice suspension. They act out of what's best to protect the image of the league. Which I think is complete bullshit. A company this big and successful should lead the way for morality, not just do things to shine their own image.
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I say suspend him a year and then go ahead and remove Rogers for over inflating the ball or knowing that his ball was over inflated.
you guys do know that the colts had 4 footballs examined and 3 of them were below psi right? where is the outrage? if you are going to use guys like shannon sharpe as expert accounts then I will use cris carter who says every quarterback knows what's going on with the football so according to him Luck knew the Colts Ball would be below psi.
year suspensions for this would be a joke I thinking now 4 isn't fair either. this is the equivalent as wide receivers using stickem
you guys do know that the colts had 4 footballs examined and 3 of them were below psi right? where is the outrage? if you are going to use guys like shannon sharpe as expert accounts then I will use cris carter who says every quarterback knows what's going on with the football so according to him Luck knew the Colts Ball would be below psi.
year suspensions for this would be a joke I thinking now 4 isn't fair either. this is the equivalent as wide receivers using stickem
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what's unintelligent about it? you think the suspension is fair? or that he deserved a year? for a report that says "probably" I think we can bring out the DrRay's threads and find some intelligent convo. Are you refuting what Cris Carter is saying or are you refuting that 3 out of the 4 Colts balls were below PSI? was that the doing of Brady too?
The suspension and the fine are more of a measure of Goodell's complete ineptitude for the position he holds.
still waiting for a response? why were 75% of the colts footballs tested below regulation psi? why does Aaron Rogers like his football over inflated or to max?
Don't sweat this brother, he won't respond other than to call you childish names. He's like lowell with a smaller vocabulary, both are a waste of time and flesh.
If this was the NFC North and the Packers or Bears were the accused, and they were the team that beat you and stopped the Vikes from going to the SB, your whole tune would be changed.
I think my team got fucked 2 times because these guys cheated. 2 times! Inches. Just a liiiiitle bit. We got fucked.
Yeah, and if this was Rogers and the NFC North I wouldn't give a shit either.
I don't really care about this but you and FDC defending Brady is
