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agent and hippo ---- nice! fo some odd reason, i'm with hippo on the egostical tree thing. ....and nice use of "s-murphy " by the way. that did not go unnoticed. i wish u won the bet.

Great, you're with me on the one thing I didn't bet on. Thanks for your help, AGAIN.



gmroz - It sounds like you and I had a similar upbringing. I asked some tough questions in high school to my Bible teacher that he could not answer. The thing is, the Bible is inconsistent, especially from Old to New Testament. I tend to side with the New Testament as the final word when there are conflicts, but another problem is that people read too many passages literally, when they are based on a time long ago, when things were interpreted differently. My father has his masters in divinity and has read MANY books on the Bible and I used to ask him lots of questions about it.

But overall, I don't think you can find all the answers to every religious question in the Bible, which is why believing is a "leap of faith" as Kierkegaard writes. Buddy is a great example of this leap, as it sometimes takes a real life crisis for people to take the initiative to REALLY believe.
 

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can't believe i read this whole thread.

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Man Glad He Can't Remember 16-Story Fall
By ARCHIE INGERSOLL

Associated Press Writer

MINNEAPOLIS ? Just a month after his 16-story fall and merciful landing onto a hotel overhang, Joshua Hanson is off crutches from a broken leg, mostly healed from his other injuries and thankful he has no memory of the plunge.

"I feel really lucky I don't remember it because I probably would have some pretty serious nightmares," said the 29-year-old bar owner from Blair, Wis., who crashed out a hotel window Jan. 20 after a night drinking with his friends.

"I'm walking without a crutch, I'm getting around pretty good. I mean, I feel really good," Hanson said Tuesday after a couple weeks of recuperation at his parents' home.

His two collapsed lungs and torn trachea have healed, and he's been slowly returning to work at Heine's bar.

Hanson recalls drinking with his pals at a couple of bars in St. Paul before going back to the Minneapolis Hyatt Regency. They stopped by a darts tournament at the hotel before heading to their rooms in the early morning hours.

"Then we come back off the elevator and that's when, for whatever reason ... I decided to take off running," Hanson said. "I don't know why I took off running or what really led up to it, but ? I did."

Sprinting down the hallway alone, he said he was confused by the reflection on the window pane at the end. With a crash, the 275-pound former prep football player and wrestler broke through a double-paned window with a safety bar.

He fell onto an asphalt-covered overhang one floor above the street. The overhang probably saved his life because it helped cushion his fall, according to emergency officials and a physics professor.

Asked if he could explain why he survived, Hanson said: "I wish I knew, for real I do. Somebody had a plan for me." He added that one reason he survived is his 8-year-old daughter, Kaitlyn.

The fall has made him more contemplative and given him a fresh perspective, he said, though he didn't know whether it would cause him to drink less.

"I went to church the first Sunday I got home, no doubt about it," he said. "There ain't too many days go by that I don't thank God that I'm still here."

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:scared :scared

maybe when he was running down the hallway in the hotel, he was running to Jesus.
 

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Hey aren't you the SAME Scott that carries multiple fire arms and has a shotgun poised behind the front door? What does God think about that?
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most days I pray I dont have to shoot nobody.
 

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I've heard more than one pastor OFFER THEIR OPINIONS and say God loves us all, but really doesn't seem to seek out the best, brightest or most righteous.

He's more interested in changing the lives of those who are, in a sense, peculiar.

I think ole' Joshua here may qualify.
 
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No, I don't remember what happened during that part of the night and nobody could give me specifics when I asked about it later. Just a big mystery. :shrug:
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I havnt seen you around in awhile.

Getting back to the subject at hand.

You blacked out for Jesus ?
 

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No, I don't remember what happened during that part of the night and nobody could give me specifics when I asked about it later. Just a big mystery. :shrug:

I can give you complete specifics from start to finish. Well, finish being when you wandered off....
 

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I havnt seen you around in awhile.

Getting back to the subject at hand.

You blacked out for Jesus ?

I was only in Mexico for five days.

Correct. I blacked out for Jesus for a couple hours, then I got back in action. Why not?
 

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I can give you complete specifics from start to finish. Well, finish being when you wandered off....

I don't think you did. I remember asking you (since Jackson couldn't provide specifics. Just stupid generalizations). I think all you said is that I was walking around in circles. Still don't understand why the bouncer guy wouldn't let me in. What's wrong with a guy walking in circles?

I don't doubt that I wandered off though. :mj07:

I'm kinda known for that.
 

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I like the part when Kosar was trying to find people in the Aladdin from the Rio. How many laps through the Rio did you do before finally realizing it wasn't the Aladdin?
 

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I like the part when Kosar was trying to find people in the Aladdin from the Rio. How many laps through the Rio did you do before finally realizing it wasn't the Aladdin?

At least 3 laps and about 10 phone calls berating Jackson saying he was wrong about where he was in the casino.

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If you asked, I didn't see it, or I would have certainly obliged.

Hippo and I met you and Jack in PF Changs, and then we all went up to your suite. Terry Ray, Raymond, and RollTide also showed up. We all drank and conversed for several hours. Then, we decided it was time to head to the club. Several other Mjers were meeting us there. On the way out the door, you and Jack decided to Chug (yes chug) the VO, and you took a mighty swig (10 seconds at least). Nicolas Cage in Leaving Las Vegas popped in my head, and we all headed down the long hallway to the elevator. Yet when we arrived, we noticed, no Kosar:shrug: We waited for another 7-9 minutes, when Jack finally went to get you. I'm unclear on the exchange between you two, but you finally decided to join us.

Downstairs and out the door we went, and stood under the canopy waiting for our limo. As you might know, these canopies are very busy places, and taxis are constantly driving through. We had to surround you because you couldn't stand inside a 20ft radius, and at least 3 times stumbled right out into the road. The employees were getting pissed so we had to do something. You looked like a pinball amongst us, and just kept bouncing around back and forth.

The limo showed up, and we all climbed in. The limo driver asked us to put you by the window because she was 100% you would be puking. We obliged, and you were stationed right next to Happy Hippo and Jack. You druled all over the limo, and at least 5 or 6 times asked HH to go back to your room with you. (she declined)

About 10 minutes later we arrived at the Voodoo Lounge, and met up with BSU, Lewehands and their ladies. We all tried walking in together and keeping you upright so we could gain entry, but the door guy was having none of it. Considering the club was on the roof, 52 stories high, I don't blame him. So, out we all went in attempts to sober you up. Jack kept claiming how you would snap out of it, and all the miraculous recoveries he has seen you make. So he said lets get something in his system, so HH and I went downstairs to the gift shop and got some pretzels and water. We brought them back upstairs and handed them to you. You started some incoherent cussing and slurring about how you don;t need it and fawk you guys and this and that. So, we stood around for 10 minutes or so, and said lets try it again. Well as Jack said, the door guy was pissed this time and threatened to call security. Everyone was bummed and not sure what to do. Babysit Kosar or go have fun...stick him in a cab back to his room? As Jack, Raymond, and I stood around to handicap the situation, the others went upstairs to check out the club. You said you had to piss, went towards the bathroom, and I didn't see you again till Sunday at the Super Bowl party.

Any questions?
 
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If you asked, I didn't see it, or I would have certainly obliged.

Hippo and I met you and Jack in PF Changs, and then we all went up to your suite. Terry Ray, Raymond, and RollTide also showed up. We all drank and conversed for several hours. Then, we decided it was time to head to the club. Several other Mjers were meeting us there. On the way out the door, you and Jack decided to Chug (yes chug) the VO, and you took a mighty swig (10 seconds at least). Nicolas Cage in Leaving Las Vegas popped in my head, and we all headed down the long hallway to the elevator. Yet when we arrived, we noticed, no Kosar:shrug: We waited for another 7-9 minutes, when Jack finally went to get you. I'm unclear on the exchange between you two, but you finally decided to join us.

Downstairs and out the door we went, and stood under the canopy waiting for our limo. As you might know, these canopies are very busy places, and taxis are constantly driving through. We had to surround you because you couldn't stand inside a 20ft radius, and at least 3 times stumbled right out into the road. The employees were getting pissed so we had to do something. You looked like a pinball amongst us, and just kept bouncing around back and forth.

The limo showed up, and we all climbed in. The limo driver asked us to put you by the window because she was 100% you would be puking. We obliged, and you were stationed right next to Happy Hippo and Jack. You druled all over the limo, and at least 5 or 6 times asked HH to go back to your room with you. (she declined)

About 10 minutes later we arrived at the Voodoo Lounge, and met up with BSU, Lewehands and their ladies. We all tried walking in together and keeping you upright so we could gain entry, but the door guy was having none of it. Considering the club was on the roof, 52 stories high, I don't blame him. So, out we all went in attempts to sober you up. Jack kept claiming how you would snap out of it, and all the miraculous recoveries he has seen you make. So he said lets get something in his system, so HH and I went downstairs to the gift shop and got some pretzels and water. We brought them back upstairs and handed them to you. You started some incoherent cussing and slurring about how you don;t need it and fawk you guys and this and that. So, we stood around for 10 minutes or so, and said lets try it again. Well as Jack said, the door guy was pissed this time and threatened to call security. Everyone was bummed and not sure what to do. Babysit Kosar or go have fun...stick him in a cab back to his room? As Jack, Raymond, and I stood around to handicap the situation, the others went upstairs to check out the club. You said you had to piss, went towards the bathroom, and I didn't see you again till Sunday at the Super Bowl party.

Any questions?

lmao-

Ok, thank you. I kept asking Jack what happened and I think instead of him just saying he was too drunk to remember the details also, he just said I was drunk. FTR- I *did* rebound, like Jack predicted and we had a long night after that.

Most of that seems likely, but NO F*CKING WAY I asked Hippo to go back to my room '5 or 6 times'. None, no chance. Nothing against her, but no matter how drunk I am I don't hit on women who are with somebody. No way that happened. I assume you're being funny.

I also highly doubt I drooled all over the limo, but I appreciate the narrative.

Viva Las Vegas
 

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Well, I did hear you rebounded nicely and partied the night away. You gotta love Vegas man, cause anywhere else you would have been buried alive.

As for the HH incident, no I am not joking. I heard it (all 5 times) and it can be verified by her and maybe one other person. It's all good though, we know you weren't "yourself".

As for the drooling, you did that too.

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Well, I did hear you rebounded nicely and partied the night away. You gotta love Vegas man, cause anywhere else you would have been buried alive.

As for the HH incident, no I am not joking. I heard it (all 5 times) and it can be verified by her and maybe one other person. It's all good though, we know you weren't "yourself".

As for the drooling, you did that too.

:nono:

It makes no sense, for any of a thousand reasons, but whatever. :shrug:

Also, I don't 'drool.'

Christ.

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Ok, whatever you say.

Do you normally stumble around in circles and out into traffic?

It was more foaming at the mouth than drooling, but you def did it. And you def, asked, begged, and pleaded with HH to join you back in your room, RIGHT in front of me. I mean literally 3 feet away. But like I said, I discussed it with MJ and he assured me you weren't yourself. We are over it, you should be too.
 

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Ok, whatever you say.

Do you normally stumble around in circles and out into traffic?

It was more foaming at the mouth than drooling, but you def did it. And you def, asked, begged, and pleaded with HH to join you back in your room, RIGHT in front of me. I mean literally 3 feet away. But like I said, I discussed it with MJ and he assured me you weren't yourself. We are over it, you should be too.


If that actually happened then I apologize to both of you.

I guess every MJ party in Vegas has to have a kosar story that entertains the masses. Does all of this answer your question, Scotty? :rolleyes:

Back to religion.
 
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