Can we discuss 1vice here?

[GRIFFIN112]

Well like processing payouts. They stopped doing that. That's kinda important to people wanting to play there.

In last 2 weeks -37,486 in payouts sent out on time, most of them for free.

Get your information straight if your going to make statements about me please

 

[The Joker]

I will clear it up for you WVU I have taken all my recreational clients and put them on one side of the fence and all the crap (sharps,groups, bonus abusers) I dont want to accept any more on the other side, you and your 7 or 9 family members and friends being on that side of the fence.

I find it odd that you fail to mention the fact that you sent all your daughters and their husbands and neighbors and milk men here to open accounts for the promotion we had but directed them all to NOT use your last name? This is FACT


In any case
Its business as usual for the clients I am keeping here. Payouts will be fast as always!

The others including you WVU have all been shut down and will all be assessed when I get back and contacted to arrange payment. You are free to to complain at every forum you like, thats your right. But its will not sway my decision or my plan to move forward in any way. I am simply cutting my losses with all of you and cleaning house. You will all be paid in full when I am done.


You did not send me one email in reference to any of this? Why bring this crap to Jacks doorstep?




Pretty simple

 

[WVU]

Get your information straight if your going to make statements about me please

How about you do the same?

 

[ClevelandSteamers]

How about you do the same?

:bigun:

 

[GRIFFIN112]

How about you do the same?

Mine are pretty straight as we did phone interviews with all your daughters and everyone else, they were pretty clueless about specifics pertaining too "THEIR" accounts.

I might have made a mistake on the total number of them as I am sure there are more and we will soon identify them as well.




Have a great SuperBowl I mean that

 

[ClevelandSteamers]

So WVU had all these people create accounts(and I assume he just managed them)?

WOW.

 

[WVU]

I will clear it up for you WVU I have taken all my recreational clients and put them on one side of the fence and all the crap (sharps,groups, bonus abusers) I dont want to accept any more on the other side, you and your 7 or 9 family members and friends being on that side of the fence. This is fine and makes sense for you business wise

I find it odd that you fail to mention the fact that you sent all your daughters and their husbands and neighbors and milk men here to open accounts for the promotion we had but directed them all to NOT use your last name? This is FACTthis is not fact. Did I tell people about your ridiculously good But terribly thought out NBA promo? Yes. Did they take you up on it? Some did, some didn't. As far as not using my name, well here in this country when you get married, most people take and use the husband's last name. I suspect that is what happened here. My daughters don't have anything to do with 1vice so not sure why you keep bringing them up.


In any case
Its business as usual for the clients I am keeping here. Payouts will be fast as always!

The others including you WVU have all been shut down and will all be assessed when I get back and contacted to arrange payment. You are free to to complain at every forum you like, thats your right. But its will not sway my decision or my plan to move forward in any way. I am simply cutting my losses with all of you and cleaning house. You will all be paid in full when I am done. I don't have a problem with this. But I do want to point out that no rules were broken and you are very loose with your "facts". If you don't want people taking you up on a promo then why have the promo? You knew back in October that my brother signed up and was playing there and said you didn't have a problem with it.


You did not send me one email in reference to any of this? Why bring this crap to Jacks doorstep? I wanted a public response. Your emails often contradict what you say publicly. You seem to want to blame me completed for all this. The blame should be on the promo which was not very well thought out. I got my response so mission accomplished




Pretty simple

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[WVU]

Mine are pretty straight as we did phone interviews with all your daughters and everyone else, they were pretty clueless about specifics pertaining too "THEIR" accounts.

I might have made a mistake on the total number of them as I am sure there are more and we will soon identify them as well.




Have a great SuperBowl I mean that

You are wrong here again. Again my daughters don't play there or anywhere. The people I know that do/did play there I have nothing to do with other than telling them about your promo. I'm sure your IP checks confirmed this. I was told about your little phone interview and it was evident that you were rude and abrasive. You tried to trap them into lying but it didn't work so you just made up your own (false) conclusion. Your business partner also did phone interviews and he came to the opposite conclusion that you did. I have sent dozens of players your way over the years. I have never made one bet for anyone other than myself.

 

[GRIFFIN112]

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Well you have your ideas of how it happened and I have mine, I will not take it an further unless you do. But you know what happen as I do. Your brother was ok with me as he came to me and you both asked my permission, that was NOT case with all the others.

I am not blaming you WVU for anything. You came here and called me out and lied to Jack and every one saying I was not paying people any more. So I wanted to set that straight and I did.

Its no secret the nba promo was a disaster from the word go. We were able to stop it before any real damage was done. Over the weekend I did some house cleaning and shut down about 80 accounts mostly all forum guys like yourself.

I am in the business to earn and I know when to throw in the towel and cut my losses. This is what I am doing and if you and the others will have patience you will all be dealt with soon enough.

 

[GRIFFIN112]

You are wrong here again. Again my daughters don't play there or anywhere. The people I know that do/did play there I have nothing to do with other than telling them about your promo. I'm sure your IP checks confirmed this. I was told about your little phone interview and it was evident that you were rude and abrasive. You tried to trap them into lying but it didn't work so you just made up your own (false) conclusion. I have sent dozens of players your way over the years. I have never made one bet for anyone other than myself.

Rude and Abrasive? They all had their hand in my pocket trying to steal my wallet lol.

Ips were not needed as their id's ALL had your last name on them!

 

[hedman]

Hmmmm. Maybe I am reading it wrong, and I by no way have a dog in this fight, so fuck me for even speaking but I do have to say I also find it shady when a book decides not to pay a certain "side of the fence" if there was an outright abuse of the system.

If someone opened up accounts with other people to take advantage of promotions, they still had to win and run the money through the accounts to be able to cash it out and follow the rules Vice set up correct?

I dont know all the facts and dont really care to, but again I would not be clapping reading that response from Griffen.

 

[WVU]

Well you have your ideas of how it happened and I have mine, I will not take it an further unless you do. But you know what happen as I do. Your brother was ok with me as he came to me and you both asked my permission, that was NOT case with all the others.

I am not blaming you WVU for anything. You came here and called me out and lied to Jack and every one saying I was not paying people any more. So I wanted to set that straight and I did.

Its no secret the nba promo was a disaster from the word go. We were able to stop it before any real damage was done. Over the weekend I did some house cleaning and shut down about 80 accounts mostly all forum guys like yourself.

I am in the business to earn and I know when to throw in the towel and cut my losses. This is what I am doing and if you and the others will have patience you will all be dealt with soon enough.

You are still posting half truths but I guess that's based on your false assumptions. I wish you well and hope you have success. Your business is your business. I only said you guys weren't currently paying out based on the emails that were posted. I should have clarified.

 

[GRIFFIN112]

Hmmmm. Maybe I am reading it wrong, and I by no way have a dog in this fight, so fuck me for even speaking but I do have to say I also find it shady when a book decides not to pay a certain "side of the fence" if there was an outright abuse of the system.

If someone opened up accounts with other people to take advantage of promotions, they still had to win and run the money through the accounts to be able to cash it out and follow the rules Vice set up correct?

I dont know all the facts and dont really care to, but again I would not be clapping reading that response from Griffen.

Sorry I NEVER said anything about not paying my friend please re read


all be assessed when I get back and contacted to arrange payment. You are free to to complain at every forum you like, thats your right. But its will not sway my decision or my plan to move forward in any way. I am simply cutting my losses with all of you and cleaning house. You will all be paid in full when I am done.

 

[WVU]

Rude and Abrasive? They all had their hand in my pocket trying to steal my wallet lol.

Ips were not needed as their id's ALL had your last name on them!

I am pretty sure you ran IP checks but you didn't get the results you were looking for. The players you interviewed deserved better treatment from you. They were there for the bonus. Just like everyone else. You had a chance to gain players for life, which should have been the reason for a promo.

 

[WVU]

I trust Griffin will eventually pay everyone, as he always has. He handled this whole fiasco very badly, but he has always made good.

 

[GRIFFIN112]

I am pretty sure you ran IP checks but you didn't get the results you were looking for. The players you interviewed deserved better treatment from you. They were there for the bonus. Just like everyone else. You had a chance to gain players for life, which should have been the reason for a promo.

Wrong again my man, just give up ok. Tell B and G the plan is not working and that I said hello.

The information we uncovered and factual proof was emailed to your and all your family as well as sbr and all other forums.

 

[WVU]

Wrong again my man, just give up ok. Tell B and G the plan is not working and that I said hello.

The information we uncovered and factual proof was emailed to your and all your family as well as sbr and all other forums.

Factual proof of what? What info? I have no idea what you are talking about. I never denied that family have signed up with you. I vehemently deny your accusation that I was running the accounts.

 

[Amethyest]

I am sure

I am sure

This is and will be worked out properly....Unfortunately now it takes time....Though we should all be sure it won't take too much time....No need for any of us to add icing on a cake not fully baked yet....:SIB

 

[The Joker]

This is and will be worked out properly....Unfortunately now it takes time....Though we should all be sure it won't take too much time....No need for any of us to add icing on a cake not fully baked yet....:SIB

Please do me a favor. Record a short video of yourself and post here at MJ's. The topic is your choosing.

 

[Amethyest]

Intresting

Intresting

Please do me a favor. Record a short video of yourself and post here at MJ's. The topic is your choosing.

You have me thinking about a few things....However, I would truly like to know *Your* reasoning for asking this....:0008