Christian Pastor plans on burning korans on 9/11

[Trench]

Your all so obvious--especially you cyber trolls here who were pounding the drums on prison scandals--picketing recruiting stations with your pinkie punks--

Now all of a sudden you see the Grifter in action again-- doin the ole flop--and now you try to act concerned about the troops- Sheeez

You forget--I've witnessed your kind since the day I got off plane in Oakland in 71.

The :talk: when you were on other side of fence--and kurby as we went through gate to your side.

Only diff now--you hide hehind computer vs fence--

Don't know anything about liberals here "beating the drum" over the Abu-Graib and Gitmo scandals. That was before my time here. But your views, so obviously shaped by your upbringing and experiences, reveal that you long ago lost your ability to look at things objectively. Sadly, it's a common tale.

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

Don't know anything about liberals here "beating the drum" over the Abu-Graib and Gitmo scandals. That was before my time here. But your views, so obviously shaped by your upbringing and experiences, reveal that you long ago lost your ability to look at things objectively. Sadly, it's a common tale.

He will never see the other side. He has been programmed from day one.

He doesn't even have the ability to participate in a functional debate. You ask him one thing and its like the question gets morphed into a different one between the time his eyes read the question and his brain receives the information.

I do think its funny that he spends all this time using the bold function and all his little smiles but can't seem to find the time to spell check.

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

picketing recruiting stations with your pinkie punks--

Little doggie just keeps producing gems. :0074

 

[Chadman]

In my opinion, there is a big difference between having the opinion that prisoners should not be held indefinitely without cause or due process with no evidence being produced against them for years and years (at Abu or wherever) and a rogue minister who is pointedly trying to agitate an entire religion by burning their most sacred religious symbol. Especially when that minister is also selling a book - hmm, wonder what all this will do for his book sales?

And today we see the story taking on it's expected turn, with ministers in other sections of the country jumping on board and hosting their own fall campfires, and muslims in Afghanistan, where our troops are fighting, starting to protest the event and causing more concerns for our soldiers.

This guy is propped up by Drudge in living color, day after day, fanning the flames of hate. Same as it ever was... :facepalm:

 

[rusty]

To burn or not to burn?That is the question.The only reason I would burn it is because its a false religion,its trash.I would not burn it because of 9/11 or Insane,I mean Imam Raul.

I do agree with Jones on one Issue.Islam is devil worship.:0008

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

The only reason I would burn it is because its a false religion,its trash.

You only feel that way because you were born in America. If you were born elsewhere you would feel different.

 

[Trench]

To burn or not to burn?That is the question.The only reason I would burn it is because its a false religion,its trash.I would not burn it because of 9/11 or Insane,I mean Imam Raul.

I do agree with Jones on one Issue.Islam is devil worship.:0008

You just summed up the problem with religion since man created it... your religion is God's religion and the other guy's religion is not.

 

[Chadman]

I'm curious, Rusty. Do you consider the Islam religion devil worship because of a solid knowledge of it, or because they don't agree with your personal opinion of the one true religion?

 

[Lumi]

To burn or not to burn?That is the question.The only reason I would burn it is because its a false religion,its trash.I would not burn it because of 9/11 or Insane,I mean Imam Raul.

I do agree with Jones on one Issue.Islam is devil worship.:0008

And so the Crusades begin....

 

[Jaxx]

Hell its fine for radical Islamists to show beheadings of Americans and dragging of dead american troops through the streets on the internet and TV but lets not do anything to upset them or thier religion. Fuck that shit. Do not condone the burning But I dont give a rats ass what they think. Screw them.

:thefinger

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

Hell its fine for radical Islamists to show beheadings of Americans and dragging of dead american troops through the streets on the internet and TV

Who said its fine?

 

[Trench]

Hell its fine for radical Islamists to show beheadings of Americans and dragging of dead american troops through the streets on the internet and TV but lets not do anything to upset them or thier religion. Fuck that shit. Do not condone the burning But I dont give a rats ass what they think. Screw them.

:thefinger

What guys like you don't get is that burning the Quran lowers us, as a nation, to the level of the radical Islamists you don't give a rat's ass about.

WTF would burning copies of the Quran accomplish? When you can answer that question, there may be something worth discussing here.

 

[Duff Miver]

Who said its fine?

Ricknjax is the only one I've ever heard say it's fine.

 

[StevieD]

Hell its fine for radical Islamists to show beheadings of Americans and dragging of dead american troops through the streets on the internet and TV but lets not do anything to upset them or thier religion. Fuck that shit. Do not condone the burning But I dont give a rats ass what they think. Screw them.

:thefinger

I don't see what is to be gained by burning the Koran. Except maybe get a bunch of publicity for a right wing screwball. I would guess a few Korans went up in smoke when the buildings went down. That is not what it is about. And what do those beheadings they show do? It gets us all riled up. They will do anything to keep us there because they are watching us go bankrupt fighting them.

 

[Jaxx]

I don't see what is to be gained by burning the Koran. Except maybe get a bunch of publicity for a right wing screwball. I would guess a few Korans went up in smoke when the buildings went down. That is not what it is about. And what do those beheadings they show do? It gets us all riled up. They will do anything to keep us there because they are watching us go bankrupt fighting them.

I said I do not condone the burning. My point is who gives a shit what any of those radical Islamists think about anything.They are criminal pieces of shit. Fuckem

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

I said I do not condone the burning. My point is who gives a shit what any of those radical Islamists think about anything.They are criminal pieces of shit. Fuckem

The problem with your logic is that not everyone who supports Islam is radical.

 

[Lumi]

Let's take a look at it this whole situation from outside our own political parameters and reply sensibly with no insults and name calling.

That being said, what we have here is obviously a volatile situation, duh !

Pastor Jones had intended to burn these books in protest to the NYC Mosque. Ok, it is within his 1st A rights, am I correct? He is expressing his feelings about Islam. He is not repressing anyone, he is not hurting anyone. Now, all over the MidEast, the Islamic religion is up in arms about Jones' intentions, understood, and General Pertaeus, whom Barry and the left were kicking in stones 6,7 years ago makes a statement that the fit may hit the shan and the soldiers may be in danger. WHAT ? Weren't the soldiers put in harms way when they invaded Iraq and the 'Stan?

Still, I have yet to hear any warnings here in the states, kind of reminds you of 10SEP01 huh? Just sayin....:shrug:

And... The POTUS chastises REV Jones for this "stunt" I want to hear him tear into someone for burning my flag ! For calling troops baby killers with no evidence ! You want to be a leader Barry, kick the right people in the teeth. We have realize no matter how much you despise Jones' statement it MUST BE PROTECTED ! We cannot allow the sabre rattling of the the jerk offs in the Mid East to dictate what OUR 1ST AMMENDMENT RIGHTS ARE ! So what will we allow the Islamic Nut Balls dictate to our leaders ?

Women's Rights, Gay's Rights, Blacks Rights to vote? Think about the oppression that goes on in Iran, it's a slippery slope that is being challenged here with this issue.

I really hope we can turn this thread into a rational one instead of an F/U contest !

Peace and good luck on the games this weekend ! :toast: :0008

 

[Chadman]

illum, I don't think there's many people here or elsewhere, including the President, who don't think people have the right to say what they think and make political or religious statements, including this situation with the minister. You can support protecting the rights of someone to make a point without agreeing with the point.

And I would have a BIG problem if this president, or any other president would come out and say that they support the burning IN THIS COUNTRY of something like a main religious symbol of the second largest religion in the world. Especially considering the possible escalation in terroristic activities that probably will occur perhaps here, and definitely elsewhere that could harm our civilians and soldiers. Sure, soldiers already were in harms way. But they certainly could be in greater danger because of this one self-serving, self-promotional, and possibly economically motivated "event." And that is not acceptable to me, maybe it is to you.

Do you honestly think this situation is worth supporting, all things considered? Publicly, by a President, or other leaders? I don't. I think public reprimands of this person are entirely appropriate, and I'm glad they are happening.

 

[Chadman]

Going back to your first point - seeing the main symbol of your religious faith being burned by another religion certainly hurts people who believe in that symbol, and burning the Koran most definitely COULD result in our people getting hurt. To think otherwise, IMO, is naive.

Certainly, if people here watched a bible being burned, they would be hurt and angry, possibly to the point of action. Let alone lunatic fringe zealots...

 

[Chadman]

Final comment (probably) this afternoon... my interpretation of the situation is that if he does engage in a big burning of Korans as has been suggested, it WOULD be against the law. I've read Jones has applied for two burning permits and been turned down both times. So, from a legal standpoint, he would be breaking the law to do it. Unless what I read is incorrect. So, there's that.