Count Me Out - The Obama Craze

[Jabberwocky]

You are denying the FACT that GW Jr has a lower approval rating than Nixon when he left office? He has a lower approval rating than any president in the history of the country. Is this a FACT that you are unwilling to accept? We are currently 9+ trillion in debt. The largest debt of any country in the history of the world. Is this a FACT that you are unwilling to accept? GW Jr increased spending, with a republican congress (discretionary non-defense spending mind you) at a rate that was 5x larger than the Clinton admin and largest seen since LBJ. Is that a FACT that you deny? What the fvck does moveon.org have to do with these FACTS? I have never even gone to that website. You are as conservative as Saul is Jewish. Your idiotic pigeonholing straw man tactics get old. And that, is a

FACT

 

[Jabberwocky]

oops..

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Should have seen that one coming. It's been at least a dozen posts since DTB called on this reliable standby.

You are worse than a bad classic rock station. Playlist of about 5 points, "facts", etc that just get more and more stale each time you play them.

You forgot to add "in my opinion" Smurph-No doubt statistics and data are liberals worst nightmare--especially you Smurph--

Heres your cup of tee--

""Your voice can win an election," Obama told a noisy late-night rally in Houston. Repeating a signature election refrain, he shouted: "I have only one question for you: Are you fired up? Ready to go?" When the crowd roared its approval, he added: "Let's go change the world."

--you would fit quite well among the Houston crowd --holding your little sign and jumping up up and down--but fact is you will still be Smurph when you walk out of there--and your situation in life won't change one iota--unless you make the change.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

You are denying the FACT that GW Jr has a lower approval rating than Nixon when he left office? He has a lower approval rating than any president in the history of the country. Is this a FACT that you are unwilling to accept? We are currently 9+ trillion in debt. The largest debt of any country in the history of the world. Is this a FACT that you are unwilling to accept? GW Jr increased spending, with a republican congress (discretionary non-defense spending mind you) at a rate that was 5x larger than the Clinton admin and largest seen since LBJ. Is that a FACT that you deny? What the fvck does moveon.org have to do with these FACTS? I have never even gone to that website. You are as conservative as Saul is Jewish. Your idiotic pigeonholing straw man tactics get old. And that, is a

FACT

I have no doubt as with Smurph and Brantz it gets real old for you--


Here are two links-for you guys where you can throw up opinions void of any credibilty or logic and get unanimous approval without anyone challenging your views unless of course it doesn't match theirs--a proverbial utopia for opinions.


http://www.dailykos.com/
http://www.moveon.org/

 

[Jabberwocky]

I have no doubt as with Smurph and Brantz it gets real old for you--


Here are two links-for you guys where you can throw up opinions void of any credibilty or logic and get unanimous approval without anyone challenging your views unless of course it doesn't match theirs--a proverbial utopia for opinions.


http://www.dailykos.com/
http://www.moveon.org/

I have never been to those sites and have no interest in them.

Are you denying any of the facts that I stated?

 

[smurphy]

Not bold enough, Jabber - sorry.

 

[smurphy]

You forgot to add "in my opinion" Smurph-No doubt statistics and data are liberals worst nightmare--especially you Smurph--

Heres your cup of tee--

""Your voice can win an election," Obama told a noisy late-night rally in Houston. Repeating a signature election refrain, he shouted: "I have only one question for you: Are you fired up? Ready to go?" When the crowd roared its approval, he added: "Let's go change the world."

--you would fit quite well among the Houston crowd --holding your little sign and jumping up up and down--but fact is you will still be Smurph when you walk out of there--and your situation in life won't change one iota--unless you make the change.

sounds good. we'll get right on it and let you know tomorrow.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

That would depend on where your getting your facts Jabbers--

I rely more on votes --you apparently rely more on polls.

On your debt--would wager that # goes up in next admin regardless of who's in power.
Surely your not naive enough to think national debt went down under Clinton--are you?
Fact of the matter it increased 36% with no duel wars-no Katrina-no 911.

What do you think odds are that any pres serving in war times will have higher budget Duh--

 

[Jabberwocky]

 

[Jabberwocky]

 

[Jabberwocky]

Wikipedia disagrees with your 36% claims. It shows a decrease of debt to GDP of %8.2 for his first term and %0.6 for his second term.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential_terms

 

[gardenweasel]

map n`graph master,sir.....you forgot to photo-shop the phony "whitehouse .gov." label on your latest masterpieces....

it adds a little gravitas,ya` know...

 

[Jabberwocky]

the tagline said it was based on data from whitehouse.gov. It was. Here is one from factcheck.org. Wikipedia not a reliable source? Factcheck.org not reliable? How about CNN? How many do you need?

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This chart, based on historical figures from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, shows the total deficit or surplus for each fiscal year from 1990 through 2006. Keep in mind that fiscal years begin Oct. 1, so the first year that can be counted as a Clinton year is fiscal 1994. The appropriations bills for fiscal years 1990 through 1993 were signed by Bill Clinton's predecessor, George H.W. Bush. Fiscal 2002 is the first for which President George W. Bush signed the appropriations bills, and the first to show the effect of his tax cuts.

 

[gardenweasel]

"based on data compiled" from whitehouse.gov?.....

ohhhhh!!..i get it...kinda` like when they said,mussolini "made the trains run on time".....there was some truth in that...:yup

:142smilie :SIB

 

[Jabberwocky]

Just glib nonsensical remarks. Par for the course. I have posted data from a variety of sources. Challenge the data, show me contradictory information. Are you saying factcheck.org is not trustworthy? Wikipedia is now a liberal blog? When I post mountains of data, Wayne tells me to go to moveon.org and then posts some absurd figure with no sources, and no back up. You have never challenged the data, produced any counter data, just ridiculed it and make comments about Mussolini. That seems about right.

 

[Jabberwocky]

"based on data compiled" from whitehouse.gov?.....

ohhhhh!!..i get it...kinda` like when they said,mussolini "made the trains run on time".....there was some truth in that...:yup

:142smilie :SIB

did you miss the source of the last graph? It is based on data from the Congresional Budget Office. You see gw, the graph was not produced by the Congressional Budget Office. The data was produced by the Congressional Budget Office, and some one at factcheck.org made the graph, which is a visual representation of the data published by the Congressional Budget Office. I hope this helps to clear things up for you.

 

[Jabberwocky]

just for you gw, here is your favorite graph, and a link to the document published by Whitehouse.gov.

What Is the Source of the Date in the Historic Graph?
The data is from the historical tables in the 2006 OMB Budget as download from WhiteHouse.gov, Historical Tables. It was plotted without modification. Here is the relevant two page Table 7.1 in PDF format.

I would hope that you would also notice the graph is hosted on a zfacts.com server. Not sure why you think I can "photoshop" documents on their server, but I know it can be a confusing world for you.

 

[Chadman]

Getting more quiet now, eh, Jabbers? They hate it when you use reputable sources...it makes their heads hurt from the spinning...

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

map n`graph master,sir.....you forgot to photo-shop the phony "whitehouse .gov." label on your latest masterpieces....

it adds a little gravitas,ya` know...

I don't even look at his graphs any more Weasie as I know where he gets them--right click on 1st one and you get http://www.ppionline.org/upload_graphics/Performance_Index.jpg
which is the Progressive Policy Institute
--he's been called on it before to no avail.

on his graph from gov.org?? don't know where it came from but do know where he posted it from
http://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/National-Debt-GDP.gif
Here site he got it from-
http://zfacts.com/p/330.html

Jabbers after all your song and dance--which issue do you say is incorrect in statement you were trying to address--

"On your debt--would wager that # goes up in next admin regardless of who's in power.
Surely your not naive enough to think national debt went down under Clinton--are you?
Fact of the matter it increased 36% with no duel wars-no Katrina-no 911."

 

[Jabberwocky]

I freaking posted facts from Wikipedia, FactCheck.org, CNN and countless others. To accompany the graph from zfacts, I posted a link directly into Whitehouse.gov to show the original document the data was obtained from. I understand your inability to digest FACTS. I have no interest in what your OPINION is of what will happen to the debt under a new admin, I was only trying to discuss historical FACT. You are incapable of addressing anything, so I give up.