Do we have any Atheists or Agnostics here?

Trampled Underfoot

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Your consistent misstatement that it's the Neocons who love war needs a history lesson TU.

Take a ride in the wayback machine

WW I
WW II
Korea
VietFUCKINGnam
Somalia
Serbia

Yes, Bush I and II had their wars

Reagan Held back from blasting Libya from the 14th Century to the 7th Century

What didn't our POTUS' get us into?

I have gone into some of the Shit I had to deal with, and sure Marine has been in some heat as well. Other Vets here probably have been to un-named places with sterile unis?

The Boys Post, CIA into Libya...

Really, no shit

The Fucking Spooks and Cowboys and Snake Eaters from numerous countries have been in country for weeks, month... lazing targets

NO BOOTS ON THE GROUND

Explanation... Well, they didn't march in our go in by vehicles.

They did Airborne Operations, therefore changes the definition of boots on the ground ! :shrug: :0008

I'm talking about the Neo-Cons we have who worship the Wolfowitz Doctrine.
 

Lumi

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I'm talking about the Neo-Cons we have who worship the Wolfowitz Doctrine.

TU,

I can only speculate that there many who had the HOORAHH ! KILL EM ALL ATTITUDE OF PAT TILLMAN # 40 RIP BROTHER

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Did he die for a cause ?

Or a lie or for trying to tell the truth ?

I have said that I was temporarily insane (BLASTED DRUNK) for many daize while I contemplated Re-Enlisting for the 3rd Time :scared

Where you in the mind set to get some?

Who here was ready to get a piece?

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Striking down the enemy
Fighting hand to hand
Troops are thrusting onwards
Time to take command
Ready to devour
On the attack
Bodies lie dismembered
Maimed, killed, and hacked

Draw fast, cut first
Live hard, die hard
Feel the point of the blade
Lunging like an animal, killing all in sight
Going for the throat, living for the light
In a bath of bloodshed, mixing with the sweat
Crawling through the barbwire, put it to the test

Fight, Fight, Fight
Fight, Fight, Fighting the war
Fight, Fight, Fight
Fight, Fight, Fight

Gung-ho, Gung-ho, Gung-ho
Gung-ho, Gung-ho, Gung-ho

Raging on the warpath, storming through the town
Blowing it to pieces, killing all around
Stand in our way, if you've got the balls
In a hail of bullets, your nailed to the wall

We wait out the day, we burn in the sun
We move in by night, and kill everyone
Show no emotions, have no regrets
Made to take pain, no fear of death

Draw fast, cut first
Live hard, die hard
Feel the point of the blade
 

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I figure the non-believers are liberals and the believers are more conservative

do we have anyone here to dispute my theory that is conservative and a non-believer?


:popcorn2
 

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I figure the non-believers are liberals and the believers are more conservative

do we have anyone here to dispute my theory that is conservative and a non-believer?


:popcorn2

Read that book Temping Faith and see how Bush, Cheney, and Rove used to have a good laugh behind close doors about you bible pushers. They use religion because they know the weak will fall for it. Just flat out suckers. It really is stunning how something can be created and the masses suck it up hook line and sinker. I hear when u donate to the church the money doesn't actually go to the church but to the top guy then he filters it back down and tells the church how much they can have. I guess those lawsuits are expensive these priest keep getting involved in.
 

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Atheists lead equally as fulfilling family lives as believers.

IMO, most of them do not need the crutch that religion provides, which, by definition, would make them stronger individuals than believers.

I should add that religion provides a huge service in consoling the bereaved. This is my favorite part of religion:toast:

Didn't anything bout leading productive lives Cie--I am referring to attitude they take through life with them.

What does an athiest in later stage of life look forward to--how do they cope with death of child--

I would hope everyone could find some comfort in life in dealing with death or other travesties.

Religion a crutch? Explain how so--
To do what is right?

Prisons full of those "stronger individuals" with no religious values.

--and from personal experience you'd be amazed to see how many atheist get religion when their limbs are blown off or they got to go through same thing next day knowing it might be them--but have yet to see the reverse -just once.
 

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"Prisons full of those "stronger individuals" with no religious values."



As opposed to those individuals that "find god" in prison after they molest a child or blow someones head off.


Eliminate organized religion and the world is a much better place to live in. It is as simple as that.


Nothing corrupts an individual more then organized religion....nothing.

I am always baffled at those that do not believe in alien life. But believe some dude walked on water or parted the Red Sea. Unreal how stupid people get when organized religion fucks up their head.

If I said "I walked on water yesterday" you laugh at me. But if I said some dude thousands of years ago walked on water you'll say "oh yeah I heard about that":facepalm:

Oh and the earth has only been around for a couple of years right? Pay no attention to that millions of years time line:facepalm:
 
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gardenweasel

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So you're saying Old School is a Professor :shrug:

old school was obviously a "good" hippie.....in it for all the right reasons(hippie chicks,good hooch)....and then he learned a solid trade...

but college professor is the preferred rehab job for certian types of doddering old hippies...i`m talking aging communists,dumb as a post che guevara groupies,anarchists.......you know the ones that wanted to do away with the tired old concepts of "employment" and "civilization" altogether...

"americans are no different from nazis" !!!...

you know,that bunch..:lol:
 

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"Prisons full of those "stronger individuals" with no religious values."



As opposed to those individuals that "find god" in prison after they molest a child or blow someones head off.


Eliminate organized religion and the world is a much better place to live in. It is as simple as that.


Nothing corrupts an individual more then organized religion....nothing.

I am always baffled at those that do not believe in alien life. But believe some dude walked on water or parted the Red Sea. Unreal how stupid people get when organized religion fucks up their head.

If I said "I walked on water yesterday" you laugh at me. But if I said some dude thousands of years ago walked on water you'll say "oh yeah I heard about that":facepalm:

Oh and the earth has only been around for a couple of years right? Pay no attention to that millions of years time line:facepalm:

see,this is where we part company....many atheists are moral relativists...not all...but many...they scream when you lump any group together and make stereotypes out of them....

except when they disagree with or dislike them them..


if someone thought that a dude parted some water or rose from the grave?...who cares?....if it gives them something to hang onto....to believe in...gives them moral strength...then i say that`s a good thing...

that is,if it`s relatively benign....

and honestly most 21st century religions are benign(yeah,i know about the molestation scandals).....sure,there are some issues that are contentious,but as a whole,they do much more good than harm...

it`s the retrograde religions that are scary as hell...the ones that prostelytize at the point of a sword or the muzzle of a gun....

there`s no moral equivalence....

dude,show a little tolerance...not everyone is as enlightened as you are...:toast:

btw...whoever gave that extra green box,i`m sending smooches to...:00x30
 
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The atheists listed in this thread make perfect sense. Somewhat suprised at a couple but most fit the bill to a tee.

:SIB
 

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TU,

I can only speculate that there many who had the HOORAHH ! KILL EM ALL ATTITUDE OF PAT TILLMAN # 40 RIP BROTHER

img_0358.jpg


Did he die for a cause ?

Or a lie or for trying to tell the truth ?

I have said that I was temporarily insane (BLASTED DRUNK) for many daize while I contemplated Re-Enlisting for the 3rd Time :scared

Where you in the mind set to get some?

Who here was ready to get a piece?

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/zaNSEakFLnI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

ANYONE SUPRISED THAT I HAVE A VIDEO ? :mj07:

Striking down the enemy
Fighting hand to hand
Troops are thrusting onwards
Time to take command
Ready to devour
On the attack
Bodies lie dismembered
Maimed, killed, and hacked

Draw fast, cut first
Live hard, die hard
Feel the point of the blade
Lunging like an animal, killing all in sight
Going for the throat, living for the light
In a bath of bloodshed, mixing with the sweat
Crawling through the barbwire, put it to the test

Fight, Fight, Fight
Fight, Fight, Fighting the war
Fight, Fight, Fight
Fight, Fight, Fight

Gung-ho, Gung-ho, Gung-ho
Gung-ho, Gung-ho, Gung-ho

Raging on the warpath, storming through the town
Blowing it to pieces, killing all around
Stand in our way, if you've got the balls
In a hail of bullets, your nailed to the wall

We wait out the day, we burn in the sun
We move in by night, and kill everyone
Show no emotions, have no regrets
Made to take pain, no fear of death

Draw fast, cut first
Live hard, die hard
Feel the point of the blade

Lumi, m company did the audio version of Boots On The Ground and it was recorded by his mother ... very powerful and emotional!
 

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Lumi, m company did the audio version of Boots On The Ground and it was recorded by his mother ... very powerful and emotional!

The Country Tune of this one ?

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Can't remember where or who I heard it from when I was a kid, but I was told there were 4 reasons we do what's right
1. fear of public scorn or embarrassment (especially embarrassing your family) :nono:
2. fear of going to jail :scared
3. fear of getting your ass kicked:scared :scared
4. fear of going to HELL (or not going to heaven) :shrug:

If you take each one of those individually they all have been diminished over the last few decades. :sadwave:
 

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Can't remember where or who I heard it from when I was a kid, but I was told there were 4 reasons we do what's right
1. fear of public scorn or embarrassment (especially embarrassing your family) :nono:
2. fear of going to jail :scared
3. fear of getting your ass kicked:scared :scared
4. fear of going to HELL (or not going to heaven) :shrug:

If you take each one of those individually they all have been diminished over the last few decades. :sadwave:

I have no desire to hurt, kill or mame, even if I were guranteed that my family would not find out, that I wouldn't be arrested, that I would not go to a place full of fire and brimstone for all eternity and that I would not be subject to retaliation.

I am not saying there is no hell, because I do not know, but it is exteemely unlikely at the bare minimum.
 
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