Cards-Saints total an "over" reaction
Cards-Saints total an "over" reaction
Cards-Saints total an "over" reaction
For football purists it was the Sunday night straight from hell.
Green Bay and Arizona put up points at pinball-machine pace. It was really the perfect storm of point production ? two red-hot quarterbacks who combined to complete 57 passes with 16 different players catching those passes. There were 17 penalties that moved the ball with the clock stopped, near-perfect red-zone efficiency and one team getting off to a big lead early and forcing the other to pass more than it might have wanted to.
The offensive explosion was so great that the Cardinals beat the total of 48 on their own total and the Packers were only three points away from the number.
If you like the over in the Cardinals-Saints game this week, and it appears that majority of bettors do, the points had better come early and often, because the number has been set at 57. Some books were offering a half-point higher or lower by mid-week.
Can the Saints and Cardinals, both with tired legs after just five days of rest, light it up in the Superdome Saturday afternoon?
Or is the number a bit inflated by what happened in Arizona Sunday and the public?s love of offense and its tendency the play the over more than the under?
If history is any guide, the answer is one really knows.
One thing is certain ? oddsmakers hiked the number up on Saints games this season as soon as they realized what New Orleans was all about.
The total in the opener was 50 points, but that was due in no small part to the Saints going against Detroit?s defense. Oddsmakers might have made a mistake with a 46-point number against Philadelphia the next week (NO, 48-22), and the numbers remained in the high 40s (against good defensive teams) or low 50s (vs. good offenses or weak defenses) the rest of the way, peaking at 57 points for the Monday Night game against New England.
But through it all, Saints games have actually been mediocre at topping 50-plus totals this season.
The under carried against Atlanta (50.5, 26-23 final), Tampa Bay (51, 38-7), Buffalo (51, 27-7) and Dallas (53.5, 27-17 loss). And in one of the testicle-crushing bad beats of the season, the under cashed by just two points in that 38-17 Patriots blowout when John Carney missed a 37-yard field goal with less than six minutes left. New Orleans and Atlanta covered 56 (Falcons, 35-27), as did the Saints and Rams (50.5, 28-23 final).
Hanidcapper ****** points out that that over the past decade there have been only about 10 other games with a total as high as that offered for Saturday?s NFC Divisional matchup.
?The highest playoff line I can remember was the January 2005 game between the Broncos and Colts at Indianapolis,? says Merril. ?The Colts were a 10-point home favorite and the over/under line was 56. The Colts won easily [and the total carried just as easily], 49-24. And in 2002 the Rams were 11.5-point favorites with an over/under of 55 and the Rams won, 45-17.?
Merrill also points out that the majority of games with a total of 55 or more points have gone over during the past decade.
Still, betting experts urge caution.
At *******, oddsmaker Peter Childs says that 57 is a ton of points, no matter what teams are playing.
?I see no value in betting this game over,? says Childs. ?Oddsmakers and bookmakers already know that the public is going to pound this over and they?re already doing it at Belmont.com. We?ve seen nothing but over money. And the total is already inflated in expectation of what the public is going to bet on Saturday.?
Caveat emptor.
Books favors Indianapolis and San Diego
Indianapolis remains the favorite to win the Super Bowl, now standing at +275 at betED.com. The offshore book lists San Diego at +300, with New Orleans the top NFC team at +375. Rex Ryan says the Jets should be favored, but betED.com politely disagrees and lists them at +1200 - the longest shot.
Will the Poodle gives the Seahawks some bite?
Seattle has become the butt of a lot of jokes for hiring Pete Carroll, but for Carroll the move makes some sense.
In addition to getting out of Dodge before the NCAA investigators start taking a close look at the football program, Carroll has a half-decent chance of making Seattle competitive, if only because the NFC West is so weak.
If Kurt Warner calls it quits after this season, the division won?t have one top-flight quarterback. The poodle will have to turn over half the roster in a short amount of time, but maybe if the Seahawks can go young, the players won?t tune out the rah-rah stuff that got real tired, real quick in his four-year stint in New England.
Offseason starts in Philadelphia, New England
Similar post mortems are being conducted in Philadelphia and New England as the fan base wonders what went wrong in the playoffs and how things can be fixed.
Both teams have contract headaches. The Patriots know that their best defensive player, Vince Wilfork, is a free agent and won?t be signing a deal that includes a hometown discount.
Eagles followers are looking at Donovan McNabb?s age (he turns 34 next November), multiplying it by the number of Lombardi Trophies the team has won (0) and wondering if it?s time for Kevin Kolb or even Michael Vick to take over.
Both teams badly need help on the defensive line. To compete against Dallas and New York the Eagles have to get someone on the other side to assist Trent Cole. The Patriots got absolutely zero pocket pressure from either its front line or linebackers and could use pass-rushing help at both positions. Imports Derrick Burgess and Adalius Thomas have been huge busts.
And both teams are questioning their secondaries. New England couldn?t stop any team that had a decent passing attack and the Eagles are feeling the loss of Brian Dawkins and are just starting to realize that their best corner, Asante Samuel, is all about jumping routes and doesn?t like contact.
Cards-Saints total an "over" reaction
Cards-Saints total an "over" reaction
For football purists it was the Sunday night straight from hell.
Green Bay and Arizona put up points at pinball-machine pace. It was really the perfect storm of point production ? two red-hot quarterbacks who combined to complete 57 passes with 16 different players catching those passes. There were 17 penalties that moved the ball with the clock stopped, near-perfect red-zone efficiency and one team getting off to a big lead early and forcing the other to pass more than it might have wanted to.
The offensive explosion was so great that the Cardinals beat the total of 48 on their own total and the Packers were only three points away from the number.
If you like the over in the Cardinals-Saints game this week, and it appears that majority of bettors do, the points had better come early and often, because the number has been set at 57. Some books were offering a half-point higher or lower by mid-week.
Can the Saints and Cardinals, both with tired legs after just five days of rest, light it up in the Superdome Saturday afternoon?
Or is the number a bit inflated by what happened in Arizona Sunday and the public?s love of offense and its tendency the play the over more than the under?
If history is any guide, the answer is one really knows.
One thing is certain ? oddsmakers hiked the number up on Saints games this season as soon as they realized what New Orleans was all about.
The total in the opener was 50 points, but that was due in no small part to the Saints going against Detroit?s defense. Oddsmakers might have made a mistake with a 46-point number against Philadelphia the next week (NO, 48-22), and the numbers remained in the high 40s (against good defensive teams) or low 50s (vs. good offenses or weak defenses) the rest of the way, peaking at 57 points for the Monday Night game against New England.
But through it all, Saints games have actually been mediocre at topping 50-plus totals this season.
The under carried against Atlanta (50.5, 26-23 final), Tampa Bay (51, 38-7), Buffalo (51, 27-7) and Dallas (53.5, 27-17 loss). And in one of the testicle-crushing bad beats of the season, the under cashed by just two points in that 38-17 Patriots blowout when John Carney missed a 37-yard field goal with less than six minutes left. New Orleans and Atlanta covered 56 (Falcons, 35-27), as did the Saints and Rams (50.5, 28-23 final).
Hanidcapper ****** points out that that over the past decade there have been only about 10 other games with a total as high as that offered for Saturday?s NFC Divisional matchup.
?The highest playoff line I can remember was the January 2005 game between the Broncos and Colts at Indianapolis,? says Merril. ?The Colts were a 10-point home favorite and the over/under line was 56. The Colts won easily [and the total carried just as easily], 49-24. And in 2002 the Rams were 11.5-point favorites with an over/under of 55 and the Rams won, 45-17.?
Merrill also points out that the majority of games with a total of 55 or more points have gone over during the past decade.
Still, betting experts urge caution.
At *******, oddsmaker Peter Childs says that 57 is a ton of points, no matter what teams are playing.
?I see no value in betting this game over,? says Childs. ?Oddsmakers and bookmakers already know that the public is going to pound this over and they?re already doing it at Belmont.com. We?ve seen nothing but over money. And the total is already inflated in expectation of what the public is going to bet on Saturday.?
Caveat emptor.
Books favors Indianapolis and San Diego
Indianapolis remains the favorite to win the Super Bowl, now standing at +275 at betED.com. The offshore book lists San Diego at +300, with New Orleans the top NFC team at +375. Rex Ryan says the Jets should be favored, but betED.com politely disagrees and lists them at +1200 - the longest shot.
Will the Poodle gives the Seahawks some bite?
Seattle has become the butt of a lot of jokes for hiring Pete Carroll, but for Carroll the move makes some sense.
In addition to getting out of Dodge before the NCAA investigators start taking a close look at the football program, Carroll has a half-decent chance of making Seattle competitive, if only because the NFC West is so weak.
If Kurt Warner calls it quits after this season, the division won?t have one top-flight quarterback. The poodle will have to turn over half the roster in a short amount of time, but maybe if the Seahawks can go young, the players won?t tune out the rah-rah stuff that got real tired, real quick in his four-year stint in New England.
Offseason starts in Philadelphia, New England
Similar post mortems are being conducted in Philadelphia and New England as the fan base wonders what went wrong in the playoffs and how things can be fixed.
Both teams have contract headaches. The Patriots know that their best defensive player, Vince Wilfork, is a free agent and won?t be signing a deal that includes a hometown discount.
Eagles followers are looking at Donovan McNabb?s age (he turns 34 next November), multiplying it by the number of Lombardi Trophies the team has won (0) and wondering if it?s time for Kevin Kolb or even Michael Vick to take over.
Both teams badly need help on the defensive line. To compete against Dallas and New York the Eagles have to get someone on the other side to assist Trent Cole. The Patriots got absolutely zero pocket pressure from either its front line or linebackers and could use pass-rushing help at both positions. Imports Derrick Burgess and Adalius Thomas have been huge busts.
And both teams are questioning their secondaries. New England couldn?t stop any team that had a decent passing attack and the Eagles are feeling the loss of Brian Dawkins and are just starting to realize that their best corner, Asante Samuel, is all about jumping routes and doesn?t like contact.