BTW- I agree that Wayne has always had a big 'problem' with blacks, gays, poor people...you name it. Just about any group that tends to vote democratic. Except jews, of course. They're ok. 
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Yes, the Wayne story has been cast. Don't really know why I started that line of posts - when I knew the answer all along. ....Must be some kinda personal issues I'm trying to work out or somthin'.
Hey, I should be celebrating. It's official that the DTB's are the minority this time around. I should maybe just let it go.
Hey, I should be celebrating. It's official that the DTB's are the minority this time around. I should maybe just let it go.
Are you referring to the elections, or the news that recently came out that married people are now in the minority for the first time ever?
Finally! Maybe now us chronic bachelors can get something done.
jesus christ, it's almost late even for vegas standards ....but i'm not even in vegas. time for sleep.
oh man, i cant wait til i wake up and read all this shlt that i'll have no memory of. til then assholes.....
ps whatever i said is true. no matter how much i may later deny, this is all true.
oh man, i cant wait til i wake up and read all this shlt that i'll have no memory of. til then assholes.....
ps whatever i said is true. no matter how much i may later deny, this is all true.
oh i have no idea what you're talking about. i'm thinking congress. the minority marriage thing only serves as confirmation for why i think we let immigration go as it does. gott keep the population growing.
what's up with american women? they should be lining up for a stud like me. give attitude to me bitch...whatever.
....oh shit, is thing still on?
Yeah, I apologize, but as you alluded to, i'm not sure that threats to 'knock the cum' out of peoples mouths falls into the 'dignified' category.
Nevertheless, your 5am rants are always fun, and I, for one, thank you.
Bit testy this morning aren't we smurph
How you can equate data on cultures to slight of any indivduals is beyond me.To think I would not have more respect for any individual who over came adversity and triumped over someone born with silver spoon would ridiculous.
--and Matt still don't know how you think I have probs with those you mentioned--We've discussed those issues numerous times--
If you quit school--have no ambition and history of generations of welfare--I have no sympathy--regardless of color.If you bust your ass I'll help any way I can.
How you can equate data on cultures to slight of any indivduals is beyond me.To think I would not have more respect for any individual who over came adversity and triumped over someone born with silver spoon would ridiculous.
--and Matt still don't know how you think I have probs with those you mentioned--We've discussed those issues numerous times--
If you quit school--have no ambition and history of generations of welfare--I have no sympathy--regardless of color.If you bust your ass I'll help any way I can.
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Bit testy this morning aren't we smurph
I don't think there is much diff on how most of us think of individuals--I try and treat everyone with respect-until I find its not warrented-
The only prob I see is when I speak of statistics you think its personal--and when you can't argue the stats you pull the race card.
A neurotic builds castles in the air.
A psychotic lives in castles in the air.
And a psychiatrist is the guy who collects the rent.
I don't think there is much diff on how most of us think of individuals--I try and treat everyone with respect-until I find its not warrented-
The only prob I see is when I speak of statistics you think its personal--and when you can't argue the stats you pull the race card.
A neurotic builds castles in the air.
A psychotic lives in castles in the air.
And a psychiatrist is the guy who collects the rent.
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I think what Smurphy is getting at, is, why do "we" constantly devide people into race/class//whatever in the first place?
What does it achieve?
It serves absolutely no purpose...and obviously causes more harm/tension than anything else.
What is a "black" man? 100%? 95%? 50%?
At what IQ is anyone deemed worthwhile?
At what income are people not looked down upon?
Why bother?...We could just as easily sit here and say that Cheer-leaders are of less social use than taxi drivers...
...or female nurses are less intellegent than male lawyers...
...or male garbage men is less worthy of repect than a female teacher...
...or (hey, you wanted social stats) people from Kentucky are less intellegent than people from New York...
...and the reason for that isn't race, it's down to what we PC lefties like to call "hicks"
What does it achieve?
It serves absolutely no purpose...and obviously causes more harm/tension than anything else.
What is a "black" man? 100%? 95%? 50%?
At what IQ is anyone deemed worthwhile?
At what income are people not looked down upon?
Why bother?...We could just as easily sit here and say that Cheer-leaders are of less social use than taxi drivers...
...or female nurses are less intellegent than male lawyers...
...or male garbage men is less worthy of repect than a female teacher...
...or (hey, you wanted social stats) people from Kentucky are less intellegent than people from New York...
...and the reason for that isn't race, it's down to what we PC lefties like to call "hicks"
"...or (hey, you wanted social stats) people from Kentucky are less intellegent than people from New York..."
If you can show me data to support that fact I will be inclined to believe it--since you as usual give any supporting eveidence I'll chalk it up to opinion till you do so.
It just pisses me off when people try to tell me what I am and how I feel just because I look at things from statistical prespective--I doubt anyone here has given mouth to mouth to complete stranger that happened to be black yet they try and play the race card on me:nono:
If you can show me data to support that fact I will be inclined to believe it--since you as usual give any supporting eveidence I'll chalk it up to opinion till you do so.
It just pisses me off when people try to tell me what I am and how I feel just because I look at things from statistical prespective--I doubt anyone here has given mouth to mouth to complete stranger that happened to be black yet they try and play the race card on me:nono:
Dogs - see here's the thing: The stats you use are complete shlte. Race stats can be used to backup virtually any prejudice. I'll bet that if you took your exact same "studies" and followed soci-economic lines rather racial lines, you'll find that every race does basically the same things when put in certain conditions.
I should have realize what a futile effort it is to get you to admit your racism. You are a professional spinner and deflecter, so of course you will never just man-up and say it. Doesn't really matter though because most people on the forum can see it. It's as obvious as my intoxication level on a 4 am post.
I should have realize what a futile effort it is to get you to admit your racism. You are a professional spinner and deflecter, so of course you will never just man-up and say it. Doesn't really matter though because most people on the forum can see it. It's as obvious as my intoxication level on a 4 am post.
Please re-read the article. The German government is contemplating criminal charges which is far different than a lawsuit which you correctly state that anyone can file. Torture of prisoners or even "detainees" is in direct violation of the Geneva Convention and regardless of anyones opinion on it's appropriateness, is considered illegal by any civilized person. If these allegations are found to be true, someone deserves to be held accountable.
Was it appropriate for the Viet Cong to torture our soldiers in their effort to obtain information in that "police action"? As that conflict was never a declared war, I suppose that our men held captive by those animals were simply "detainees" as well. Not really much difference although I am certain that the comparison is sure to cause some very nasty responses from those that will attempt pin some unpatriotic labels on me for daring to do so.
To clarify, I am in no way attempting to justify the horrific treatment of our captive soldiers in the Viet Nam conflict but rather trying to draw a comparison that bears considering. Al-Quaida invaded our country and our governtment choose to treat those that we apprehended in a particular manner as did the despicable Viet Cong when their own country was invaded by an army that had no business being there.
Smurph for the upteenth time the stats were not racial stats--but stats on economy-crime ect--if because certain elements score bad you think that was resource's motive--then YOU have the problem not me.As I said maybe we should do away with all journals on economy-crime-history ect because liberals think they might offend some one--sheeezz --My suggestionion is keep rewriting the history books to suit you--end of story.
MR C You got my interest and did some reaearch and there is outlet that ranks states on intelligence of students--and from their their criteria below I will have to give you nod on being correct.
New york was ranked 16th- Ky 31st and my home state Mo 22nd.
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critria--
Public Elementary and Secondary School Revenue per $1,000 Personal Income (Table 56) +
Percent of Public Elementary and Secondary School Current Expenditures used for Instruction (Table 134) +
Percent of Population Graduated from High School (Table 171) +
Averaged Freshman Graduation Rate for Public High Schools (Table 174) +
Percent of Public School Fourth Graders Proficient or Better in Reading (Table 203) +
Percent of Public School Eighth Graders Proficient or Better in Reading (Table 211) +
Percent of Public School Fourth Graders Proficient or Better in Writing (Table 219) +
Percent of Public School Eighth Graders Proficient or Better in Writing (Table 227) +
Percent of Public School Fourth Graders Proficient or Better in Mathematics (Table 235) +
Percent of Public School Eighth Graders Proficient or Better in Mathematics (Table 243) +
Average Teacher Salary as a Percent of Average Annual Pay of All Workers (Table 364) +
Average Daily Attendance as a Percent of Fall Enrollment in Public Elementary and Secondary Schools (Table 398) +
Percent of School-Age Population in Public Schools (Table 389) +
High School Drop Out Rate (Table 191) -
Special Education Pupil-Teacher Ratio (Table 339) -
Percent of Public Elementary and Secondary School Staff Who are School District Administrators (Table 380) -
Average Class Size in Public Elementary Schools (Table 425) -
Average Class Size in Public Secondary Schools (Table 426) -
Median Pupil-Teacher Ratio in Public Primary Schools (Table 429) -
Median Pupil-Teacher Ratio in Public Middle Schools (Table 432) -
Median Pupil-Teacher Ratio in Public High Schools (Table 435) -
MR C You got my interest and did some reaearch and there is outlet that ranks states on intelligence of students--and from their their criteria below I will have to give you nod on being correct.
New york was ranked 16th- Ky 31st and my home state Mo 22nd.
++++++++++++++++++++++
critria--
Public Elementary and Secondary School Revenue per $1,000 Personal Income (Table 56) +
Percent of Public Elementary and Secondary School Current Expenditures used for Instruction (Table 134) +
Percent of Population Graduated from High School (Table 171) +
Averaged Freshman Graduation Rate for Public High Schools (Table 174) +
Percent of Public School Fourth Graders Proficient or Better in Reading (Table 203) +
Percent of Public School Eighth Graders Proficient or Better in Reading (Table 211) +
Percent of Public School Fourth Graders Proficient or Better in Writing (Table 219) +
Percent of Public School Eighth Graders Proficient or Better in Writing (Table 227) +
Percent of Public School Fourth Graders Proficient or Better in Mathematics (Table 235) +
Percent of Public School Eighth Graders Proficient or Better in Mathematics (Table 243) +
Average Teacher Salary as a Percent of Average Annual Pay of All Workers (Table 364) +
Average Daily Attendance as a Percent of Fall Enrollment in Public Elementary and Secondary Schools (Table 398) +
Percent of School-Age Population in Public Schools (Table 389) +
High School Drop Out Rate (Table 191) -
Special Education Pupil-Teacher Ratio (Table 339) -
Percent of Public Elementary and Secondary School Staff Who are School District Administrators (Table 380) -
Average Class Size in Public Elementary Schools (Table 425) -
Average Class Size in Public Secondary Schools (Table 426) -
Median Pupil-Teacher Ratio in Public Primary Schools (Table 429) -
Median Pupil-Teacher Ratio in Public Middle Schools (Table 432) -
Median Pupil-Teacher Ratio in Public High Schools (Table 435) -
Highest State (estimate IQ ***): Mass. 104.3
Lowest State: Mississippi. 94.2.
*** Estimated by Michael McDaniel of Virginia Commonwealth University...
...est. using the Federal Government's National Assessment of Education Progress math and reading scores.
These scores and estimates correlate 0.63 with a National IQ test of school children in 1960...
...and 0.59 with a mid 80's study of Vietnam Vets.
Also the "Tickle IQ test" freely available on the 'net publishes it's results by state.
It correlates at 0.53.
So yeah, I'm sorry...I did in fact make up New York and Kentuky, as they are 100.7 and 99.4 respectively...but either way I was right! :SIB
(On a side note, these numbers are staggering to me!!...How can half the country...and by assossiation the world in general... even tie up their shoe laces?? :shrug: )
EDIT: Sorry...obviously posted at the same time...
...anyway, my point stands...Why worry about it or even refer to it??
We can divide and sub-divide almost anyone into almost any kind of group...I just don't really get why people feel the need to segregate others who aren't exactly as they are.
Lowest State: Mississippi. 94.2.
*** Estimated by Michael McDaniel of Virginia Commonwealth University...
...est. using the Federal Government's National Assessment of Education Progress math and reading scores.
These scores and estimates correlate 0.63 with a National IQ test of school children in 1960...
...and 0.59 with a mid 80's study of Vietnam Vets.
Also the "Tickle IQ test" freely available on the 'net publishes it's results by state.
It correlates at 0.53.
So yeah, I'm sorry...I did in fact make up New York and Kentuky, as they are 100.7 and 99.4 respectively...but either way I was right! :SIB
(On a side note, these numbers are staggering to me!!...How can half the country...and by assossiation the world in general... even tie up their shoe laces?? :shrug: )
EDIT: Sorry...obviously posted at the same time...
...anyway, my point stands...Why worry about it or even refer to it??
We can divide and sub-divide almost anyone into almost any kind of group...I just don't really get why people feel the need to segregate others who aren't exactly as they are.
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