Is America Brave Enough For McCain?

Blitz

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With all the stupid threads started here in the P & R Forum, I figured I'd start my own...

After reading some of the other threads, its obvious that, because I'm not voting for Obama, I'm not smart, I'm a Bigot and among other things I'm a racist. I am a horrible person!! Please someone save my kids and take them away from me... :sadwave:
 

gardenweasel

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I'm voting for mccain, but I just find the people who have intense hatred for Obama to be psycho.

stop being an idiot with the "i`m voting for mccain" b.s.....it`s anazing you can find your way home...

don`t be discouraged,blitz....we could move up to canada... i have some conservative friends up there...or maybe kickserv can put us up until we find some housing...lol


we could let the the u.s. tax slaves (oops) support us through social security when the time comes..

btw...if i go,anyone want to buy my handgun? ...can't take THAT across.....

:lol:
 

TontoKowalski

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stop being an idiot with the "i`m voting for mccain" b.s.....it`s anazing you can find your way home...

don`t be discouraged,blitz....we could move up to canada... i have some conservative friends up there...or maybe kickserv can put us up until we find some housing...lol


we could let the the u.s. tax slaves (oops) support us through social security when the time comes..

btw...if i go,anyone want to buy my handgun? ...can't take THAT across.....

:lol:

I am voting Mccain because he is a moderate. He's pro amnesty but he's not far left. Have fun picking "the lesser of 2 evils", see ya in 4 years when you are angry he stabbed ya in the back.
 

StevieD

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stop being an idiot with the "i`m voting for mccain" b.s.....it`s anazing you can find your way home...

don`t be discouraged,blitz....we could move up to canada... i have some conservative friends up there...or maybe kickserv can put us up until we find some housing...lol


we could let the the u.s. tax slaves (oops) support us through social security when the time comes..

btw...if i go,anyone want to buy my handgun? ...can't take THAT across.....

:lol:

Wease, you will like Canada. They have National Health Care up there.
 

DOGS THAT BARK

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Best speech to date for Mac came today---by Biden

Biden to Supporters: "Gird Your Loins", For the Next President "It's Like Cleaning Augean Stables"
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ABC News' Matthew Jaffe Reports: Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions.

"Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. "And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."

Not only will the next administration have to deal with foreign affairs issues, Biden warned, but also with the current economic crisis.

"Gird your loins," Biden told the crowd. "We're gonna win with your help, God willing, we're gonna win, but this is not gonna be an easy ride. This president, the next president, is gonna be left with the most significant task. It's like cleaning the Augean stables, man. This is more than just, this is more than ? think about it, literally, think about it ? this is more than just a capital crisis, this is more than just markets. This is a systemic problem we have with this economy."

The Delaware lawmaker managed to rake in an estimated $1 million total from his two money hauls at the downtown Sheraton, the same hotel where four years ago Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., clinched the Democratic nomination. Despite warning about the difficulties the next administration will face, Biden said the Democratic ticket is equipped to meet the challenges head on.

"I've forgotten more about foreign policy than most of my colleagues know, so I'm not being falsely humble with you. I think I can be value added, but this guy has it," the Senate Foreign Relations chairman said of Obama. "This guy has it. But he's gonna need your help. Because I promise you, you all are gonna be sitting here a year from now going, 'Oh my God, why are they there in the polls? Why is the polling so down? Why is this thing so tough?' We're gonna have to make some incredibly tough decisions in the first two years. So I'm asking you now, I'm asking you now, be prepared to stick with us. Remember the faith you had at this point because you're going to have to reinforce us."

"There are gonna be a lot of you who want to go, 'Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don't know about that decision'," Biden continued. "Because if you think the decision is sound when they're made, which I believe you will when they're made, they're not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they're popular, they're probably not sound."

Biden emphasized that the mountainous Afghanistan-Pakistan border is of particular concern, with Osama bin Laden "alive and well" and Pakistan "bristling with nuclear weapons."

"You literally can see what these kids are up against, our kids in that region," Biden said in recalling when his helicopter was forced down due to a snowstorm there. "The place is crawling with al Qaeda. And it's real."

"We do not have the military capacity, nor have we ever, quite frankly, in the last 20 years, to dictate outcomes," he cautioned. "It's so much more important than that. It's so much more complicated than that. And Barack gets it."

After speaking for just over a quarter of an hour, Biden noticed the media presence in the back of the small ballroom.

"I probably shouldn't have said all this because it dawned on me that the press is here," he joked.

"All kidding aside, these guys have left us in a God-awful place," he then said of the Bush regime, promptly wrapping up his remarks. "We have the ability to straighten it out. It's gonna take a little bit of time, so I ask you to stay with us. Stay with us."
 

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A vote for McCain is a rubber stamp approval of the policies of the Bush and Cheney regime which have been absolutely terrible. If McCain actually had some new ideas then I would like to hear them, but its tough to support someone whom has voted with an inept regime 90% of the time.
 

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A vote for McCain is a rubber stamp approval of the policies of the Bush and Cheney regime which have been absolutely terrible. If McCain actually had some new ideas then I would like to hear them, but its tough to support someone whom has voted with an inept regime 90% of the time.

:yawn:
 

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Sixfive,

Please enlighten us with what new ideas McCain is bringing to the table? Please dont regurgitate the propaganda spewed by either the bartender or the dope man about all McCains ideas.
 

SixFive

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Sixfive,

Please enlighten us with what new ideas McCain is bringing to the table? Please dont regurgitate the propaganda spewed by either the bartender or the dope man about all McCains ideas.

wtf; that's exactly what you did in this thread!!! That's why I posted the yawning smilie; it's boring me to a yawn. If I've seen that 90% bs 100 times, I've seen it 1,000 times. Your man is going to win. Congrats, and I hope he does well. I don't like either candidate.
 

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With all the stupid threads started here in the P & R Forum, I figured I'd start my own...

After reading some of the other threads, its obvious that, because I'm not voting for Obama, I'm not smart, I'm a Bigot and among other things I'm a racist. I am a horrible person!! Please someone save my kids and take them away from me... :sadwave:



Not to worry. Early next year you will be contacted in regards to being re-educated. At goverment expense of course. kurby
 

Master Capper

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Sixfive,

I wasn't being an asshole, but if the 90% is wrong then tell me what the correct figure should read? Also, with three weeks left to say anyone has won an election is quite a stretch. Finally, I am in agreement with you that both guys leave alot to be desired, but I think the choices have been piss poor in 2000, 2004, and again in 2008. I wish we actually had a couple of viable third parties that could present some fresh opinions instead of the tired old rants from the GOP and Dems, but I dont consider the Libertarian, Green, Reform, Constitution parties, to have a realistic chance at winning, so like many other americans I have no idea what they stand for.
 

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The democratic/republican machine has total control. It's all a game to make you think you even have an illusion of choice. WE don't really. More so than countries you hear about that 99% of the vote goes to one person, but not THAT much more - we are far from a true democracy.
 

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Tonto,

I will agree with you that are system could use a more fairer playing field to allow the fringe parties the ability to get out their platforms, but until the financial playing field is leveled it will never happen. I do disagree with you about our system being terrible, as I feel it is still better than most of the world. In your opinion, what are five countries that you feel have a better system in place?
 

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Tonto,

I will agree with you that are system could use a more fairer playing field to allow the fringe parties the ability to get out their platforms, but until the financial playing field is leveled it will never happen. I do disagree with you about our system being terrible, as I feel it is still better than most of the world. In your opinion, what are five countries that you feel have a better system in place?


A lot of European countries have multiple parties besides a 2-party only system. Also, I suggest we get away from the electoral college, and I also like how in some foreign countries the losing party gets a proportionate amount of seats in the "congress".
 
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