Exactly! :00011 :00011
What about the people that lost all there money in the casino because they offered them too much free booze and took advantage of them?:shrug:
Ivey wins $12 Million by noticing flawed cards
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Exactly! :00011 :00011
What about the people that lost all there money in the casino because they offered them too much free booze and took advantage of them?:shrug:
Ok, fuckface.
Take a look at this video, and tell me you can't see the FUCKING CARD!!!!!!!
Then, do me a favor, and shut the fuck up about this matter!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0dQ69-M4PQ
Are you fucking high?
You can't be this dense.
You can't see two whole cards in the shoe.
Are you this dense?
Come on dude.
You don't seem to understand.
WTF is wrong with you?
I have said it 100 times on here and you just don't seem to be able to read.
WTF?
You can't be this dense.
You can't see two whole cards in the shoe.
Are you this dense?
Come on dude.
You don't seem to understand.
WTF is wrong with you?
I have said it 100 times on here and you just don't seem to be able to read.
WTF?
I said over and over again about the value of seeing one card.......and now you say "look at this video and see the card".....I said over and over about seeing one card. Of course you can see the 1st card.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Why are you telling me to watch a video about seeing one card?
Sheesh:facepalm:
What the fuck is wrong with you?
Why are you telling me to watch a video about seeing one card?
Sheesh:facepalm:
And you've been a complete moron over and over!
Fuck off and die over this.
The guy won 12 MILLION DOLLARS, and you want to believe the fucking tooth fairy helped him, over the ability to see "just one card"?
I'll tell you what: Let me know what the first card is in this game against you, and I'll play you for what ever you can fucking afford!
And we don't know why he won 12 million. The fact that the casino said "the dealer moved the cards at a certain angle" shows that they might have let him bet after the cards were dealt (face down). Tilting the cards does fuck all after the bet is placed.
Oh and pay the man his money he did nothing wrong.
Oh and pay the man his money he did nothing wrong.
I still think its the casino's fault for playing with cards that let a player figure out markings giving them an advantage ... the points in these articles that raise my eyes is the lady with Ivey has done this before and been banned from other casinos and a Vegas casino REFUSED paying her ... so he KNEW he could take advantage ... I also think that maybe the dealers may have been in on the gig to turn the cards as requested ... but the casino let this happen over 3 days without changing the decks?
there is a 2nd article link at the bottom of this one
http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-new...-london-casino-en-route-to-winning-12-million
there is a 2nd article link at the bottom of this one
http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-new...-london-casino-en-route-to-winning-12-million
Turning the cards means nothing unless the they were dumb enough to let him bet after the cards were out of the shoe.
And has stated over and over again, if they actually let him bet after the cards were out of the shoe then they are the dumbest casino on the planet and deserve to lose all the money they did.
I can't believe they were that fucking stupid. But maybe they were.:shrug:
Lucky they didn't lose 24 million US dollars if they were that stupid.
Now matter what happened.....Phil did nothing wrong and should be paid.
Oh and not changing the shoe:facepalm:
And has stated over and over again, if they actually let him bet after the cards were out of the shoe then they are the dumbest casino on the planet and deserve to lose all the money they did.
I can't believe they were that fucking stupid. But maybe they were.:shrug:
Lucky they didn't lose 24 million US dollars if they were that stupid.
Now matter what happened.....Phil did nothing wrong and should be paid.
Oh and not changing the shoe:facepalm:
The key cards he was looking out for were nines and eights, and possibly sevens and sixes. When these cards appeared, his companion asked for them to be rotated 180 degrees, pretending that Mr Ivey was superstitious.
As this appeared to give him no advantage, the dealer acquiesced.
The rotated cards were returned to the shoe and were easily recognised by the player as different when they were eventually re-dealt, giving him a strong edge.
Interesting.
As this appeared to give him no advantage, the dealer acquiesced.
The rotated cards were returned to the shoe and were easily recognised by the player as different when they were eventually re-dealt, giving him a strong edge.
Interesting.
Jesus Christ.
For a guy who keeps telling me that I don't get it, will you please listen?
They didn't deal the cards out and THEN let him wager.
Regardless of what you think, knowing that the first card is a 6,7,8 or 9 would have an astute player plowing his money in on the player! Any other card, bet the Bank conservatively, and take your chances.
Seriously......None of you other fuckers have ever played this game, and can help this kid out here?
I give up trying to explain this to you.
Can we just move on.
Of course there is an advantage to seeing the 1st card in Baccarat....but seeing the 1st card once every 5 or 6 hands is a minimal advantage. I don't know why you seem to not get that?
It is a small advantage. It isn't like Phil knew what every card was.
Why is this so hard to figure out?
Go deal yourself 20 hands of baccarat...see the 1st card every 5th hand. The advantage is there but small. If the card is 2, 3, 4, for example the advantage is even smaller.
This is basic math.
I don't understand why you think he had this big advantage...he didn't.
And as stated...there could be 20 "defective" cards for every 52. He could go 10 hands and not see the "defective card" not one time as the 1st card. Plus the first card could be a 3 or a 4.
It is not a big advantage, you seem to think it is....it isn't.
I don't understand why you don't get this?
