Kramers 2008 sandwich GOY'S
- Thread starter Kramer
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I am pretty level headed when it comes to my dawgs, but your going to have to explain this one:shrug:
RICHT IN THE "70 IN 7" CLUB
Richt is one of only 9 head coaches in NCAA Division IA history to record 70 or more wins in his first seven seasons. Coach (1st 7 seasons) School, 7-year mark
George Woodruff Pennsylvania, 94-6
Walter Camp Yale and Stanford, 81-5-3
Bob Stoops Oklahoma, 75-16
Amos Alonzo Stagg Springfield, Chicago, 74-32-7
Pete Carroll USC, 74-14
Barry Switzer Oklahoma, 73-7-2
Mark Richt Georgia, 72-19
Henry Williams Army, Minnesota (70-5-6)
Urban Meyer Bowling Green, Utah, Florida (70-16)
25-4 in opponents stadiums (9-2 versus Ranked Opp.)
Only Coaches To Win Two SEC Titles In First Five Years
Frank Thomas, Alabama (1933, '34)
Bernie Moore, LSU (1935, '36)
Vince Dooley, Georgia (1966, '68)
Steve Spurrier, Florida (1991, '93)
Nick Saban, LSU (2001, '03)
Mark Richt, Georgia (2002, '05)
Only SEC Coaches To Record Four Straight 10-Win Seasons
Paul "Bear" Bryant, Alabama (1971-74, 1977-80)
Vince Dooley, Georgia (1980-83)
Phillip Fulmer, Tennessee (1995-98)
Mark Richt, Georgia (2002-05)
Steve Spurrier, Florida (1993-98)
You will excuse me if I do not understand what your getting at:shrug:
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Im not !
what you talking about Sun Tsu ?
Sun is just a complete contrarian.......and I dont know if there is a coach out there that he likes at all......I admit to being that way at times when I watch these games as well.
I guess this means we are one step closer to the start of the season with Sun taking a shot at a coach that has us shaking our head looking for a further explanation.
Love It!!!! Keep it coming too as it just breeds more football talk, in my opinion.
That means the first Bubba Gump reference is right around the corner! :mj07:
I guess this means we are one step closer to the start of the season with Sun taking a shot at a coach that has us shaking our head looking for a further explanation.
Love It!!!! Keep it coming too as it just breeds more football talk, in my opinion.
That means the first Bubba Gump reference is right around the corner! :mj07:
Ricknjax :Yep: :Yep: :Yep:
I have two degree's from OSU, still dumber than
shit :mj07: :142smilie
would love to get together with you, George,
(BADTODA****INBONE), and anyone else in
hurricane country :00hour
I have two degree's from OSU, still dumber than
shit :mj07: :142smilie
would love to get together with you, George,
(BADTODA****INBONE), and anyone else in
hurricane country :00hour
Cna quote numbers like that and make Mack Brown look like Bear Bryant too. The goal is to win championships which was the point of discussion. If you are a fan of a bigtime program, which Georgia certainly is, you shouldnt be getting all excited about 10 win seasons that dont produce national titles or often SEC titles, when your archrival Florida is routinely kicking your ass or when you lose games you have no business losing.
Bottom line he has had the talent to play for the big enchilada and always loses to somebody he has no business losing to, and often at home.
Last year a dreadful home loss to South Carolina in which as I recall Richt the offensive genius couldnt even get a touchdown on the board. The blowout loss in Knoxville was pretty awful at the time as well.
2006 - a home loss to Vandy? Giving up 50 plus to Tennessee at home in losing by 3 TDs when you had the lead starting the fourth quarter?
2005 - a complete gag job in losing at home to Auburn by 1 on the last play Fg after giving up a bomb in the last 30 seconds of the game, in part caused by not going for 2 after a fourth quarter touchdown and instead kicking to get a 6 point lead.
2002-2004 the losses were respectable but when they had to get a big game against an equal or arguably better opponent they lost.
The guy is Mack Brown except for the 2005 win over USC - win 10 games, beat almost everybody you should except once a year or so have an unexplainable dud, struggle against your big name border opponent you play at a neutral site, etc. So yes an ecellent coach, but not a championship coach.
As for Gump, ironically he still wouldnt have one if the voters hadnt completely shafted Georgia and been one of the most screwed up seasons ever. He has the hardware but does anyone truly believe that "proved" he was a great coach?
Bottom line he has had the talent to play for the big enchilada and always loses to somebody he has no business losing to, and often at home.
Last year a dreadful home loss to South Carolina in which as I recall Richt the offensive genius couldnt even get a touchdown on the board. The blowout loss in Knoxville was pretty awful at the time as well.
2006 - a home loss to Vandy? Giving up 50 plus to Tennessee at home in losing by 3 TDs when you had the lead starting the fourth quarter?
2005 - a complete gag job in losing at home to Auburn by 1 on the last play Fg after giving up a bomb in the last 30 seconds of the game, in part caused by not going for 2 after a fourth quarter touchdown and instead kicking to get a 6 point lead.
2002-2004 the losses were respectable but when they had to get a big game against an equal or arguably better opponent they lost.
The guy is Mack Brown except for the 2005 win over USC - win 10 games, beat almost everybody you should except once a year or so have an unexplainable dud, struggle against your big name border opponent you play at a neutral site, etc. So yes an ecellent coach, but not a championship coach.
As for Gump, ironically he still wouldnt have one if the voters hadnt completely shafted Georgia and been one of the most screwed up seasons ever. He has the hardware but does anyone truly believe that "proved" he was a great coach?
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Okay I will bite, what coaches do you believe are top notch (championship Coaches) Just remember the criteria you set above and give me some of your top notch ones. And if your premise is that GA has better athletes than Fla,LSU,USC,Tenn, or Aub each year then your just stupid so please save your breath. GL
I take it you are in the Miami area. Jax a long way from there.
What town are you from in Okla.
I grew up in Stillwater
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I get it now, in Jax, glad your not a jacker.
I never been to Oklahoma.
Anything to do there ?
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Unlikely Sun will respond to this.
Maybe Pete Carroll of USC fame.
or was that SunfromUSC ?
Real good stuff Kramer...always enjoy reading your posts. But I'm not so sure any SEC opponent would be a trap game for Ky...as they (like Vandy & a couple of others) have to scrap for any SEC win they can get!...They may lose but I don't think it will be cause their looking ahead to Georgia. Last year they were physically & emotionial drained when State came to Lexington after playing LSU and Florida back to back...and a lot of you guys were all over it...Tao & Cie to name a couple.
Keep doing your thing Kramer...:00x1
Thanks guys :toast:
My next pick is another Mississippi State home
game in a favorable spot. I know several of you
have stated that sandwich games don't mean
squat to Kentucky or Vandy, but you've got to
look at the total picture on both sides of the
schedule.
Oct. 4 Vandy vs. Auburn *
Oct. 11 Vandy AT Miss. State ***
Oct. 18 Vandy AT Georgia *
*Commodores have lost 13 in a row to Auburn
(last win was Gator Bowl in '55). VU had been
outscored by an avg of 37-7 in the last 3 meetings
with Auburn.
***Vandy trails the series 7-10-2 but won the last
meeting 31-13 in 2004. The Commodores have
dropped 5 straight in Starkville by an avg of 27 ppg
*LY UGA hit a 37 yd FG with no time left for a
20-17 come-from-behind win. The last time in
Athens, VU won 24-22 for their 1st road win over
a ranked opponet ever.
Vandy Coach: Bobby Johnson
LY Record: (5-7)
Returning Starters:
Offense: 3
Defense: 6
This looks like a rebuilding year, and I will call for an
0-8 SEC record, the first since Johnson's first year.
They have just 9 seniors but 32 juniors so '09 will
be their next shot at a winning season. (Phil
Steele).
Oct. 4 OPEN *
Oct. 11 Miss. State*** vs. Vandy
Oct. 18 Miss. State AT Tennessee*
*:00hour
***The Bulldogs have won 10 of the L/13
including 4 of 5 & 5 straight at home. Vandy won
the last meeting, 31-13 in Nashville in 2004.
*The Bulldogs have lost 5 in a row & 8 of the last
9. MSU Asst HC & QB Coach McCorvey was the RB
coach at UT for 5 years before joining Croom's staff
Miss. State Coach: Sylvester Croom
LY Record: 8-5
Returning Starters:
Offense: 6
Defense: 8
With 14 starters back, this year's team is more
talented than 2007's and have a great shot at
getting to a bowl. (Phil Steele)
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My next pick is another Mississippi State home
game in a favorable spot. I know several of you
have stated that sandwich games don't mean
squat to Kentucky or Vandy, but you've got to
look at the total picture on both sides of the
schedule.
Oct. 4 Vandy vs. Auburn *
Oct. 11 Vandy AT Miss. State ***
Oct. 18 Vandy AT Georgia *
*Commodores have lost 13 in a row to Auburn
(last win was Gator Bowl in '55). VU had been
outscored by an avg of 37-7 in the last 3 meetings
with Auburn.
***Vandy trails the series 7-10-2 but won the last
meeting 31-13 in 2004. The Commodores have
dropped 5 straight in Starkville by an avg of 27 ppg
*LY UGA hit a 37 yd FG with no time left for a
20-17 come-from-behind win. The last time in
Athens, VU won 24-22 for their 1st road win over
a ranked opponet ever.
Vandy Coach: Bobby Johnson
LY Record: (5-7)
Returning Starters:
Offense: 3
Defense: 6
This looks like a rebuilding year, and I will call for an
0-8 SEC record, the first since Johnson's first year.
They have just 9 seniors but 32 juniors so '09 will
be their next shot at a winning season. (Phil
Steele).
Oct. 4 OPEN *
Oct. 11 Miss. State*** vs. Vandy
Oct. 18 Miss. State AT Tennessee*
*:00hour
***The Bulldogs have won 10 of the L/13
including 4 of 5 & 5 straight at home. Vandy won
the last meeting, 31-13 in Nashville in 2004.
*The Bulldogs have lost 5 in a row & 8 of the last
9. MSU Asst HC & QB Coach McCorvey was the RB
coach at UT for 5 years before joining Croom's staff
Miss. State Coach: Sylvester Croom
LY Record: 8-5
Returning Starters:
Offense: 6
Defense: 8
With 14 starters back, this year's team is more
talented than 2007's and have a great shot at
getting to a bowl. (Phil Steele)
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clock :00x29
Yes they do have a tough schedule but it is spread
out nicely.
Aug. 30 vs. Clemson in Atlanta
Sept. 6 vs. Tulane
Sept. 13 vs. Western Kentucky
Sept. 20 AT Arkansas
Sept. 27 AT GEORGIA
Oct. 4 vs. Kentucky
Oct. 11 OPEN
Oct. 18 vs. Mississippi
Oct. 25 AT TENNESSEE
Nov. 1 vs. Arkansas STATE
Nov. 8 AT LSU
Nov. 15 vs. Mississippi State
Nov. 22 OPEN
Nov. 29 vs. AUBURN
Anyone in the SEC has a tough schedule, but this
one has nice soft gapes spaced between critical
opponents.
GL this year clock :toast:
Rick, no I live in Simi Valley CA, I just give B2DB
chit every chance I get and you live in the same
area. I had a keg route with Golden Eagle from
'82 to '84, then a package route the next two
years. If you were in Stillwater from '82 to '86 and
drank Anheuser-Busch products, I was your driver.
(Gray Fox). I sold over 250 kegs off my truck
the weekend of the OU-OSU football home game.
Was best friends with the Coors driver. (Eskimo
Joes). Those were the good ole days :00hour
I am going to leave the SEC for now but may
come back and add one more play.
Oct. 4 Take N. ILLINOIS AT TENNESSEE +points
Oct. 11 Take MISSISSIPPI ST vs. VANDY
Oct. 18 Take SOUTH CAROLINA vs. LSU
Nov. 1 Take MISSISSIPPI ST vs. KENTUCKY
Nov. 15 Take AUBURN vs. GEORGIA
:toast: :drinky: :Yep:
come back and add one more play.
Oct. 4 Take N. ILLINOIS AT TENNESSEE +points
Oct. 11 Take MISSISSIPPI ST vs. VANDY
Oct. 18 Take SOUTH CAROLINA vs. LSU
Nov. 1 Take MISSISSIPPI ST vs. KENTUCKY
Nov. 15 Take AUBURN vs. GEORGIA
:toast: :drinky: :Yep:
I was going to dive into the Big 12, but may come
back to it because the south didn't catch my
attention.
But check this schedule out:
Aug. 30 Baylor vs. WAKE FORREST
Sept. 6 Baylor vs. Northwestern State
Sept. 13 Baylor vs. WASHINGTON STATE
Sept. 19 (FRI) Baylor AT CONNECTICUT
Sept. 27 OPEN
Oct. 4 Baylor vs. OKLAHOMA
Oct. 11 Baylor vs. Iowa State
Oct. 18 Baylor AT OKLAHOMA STATE
Oct. 25 Baylor AT NEBRASKA
Nov. 1 Baylor vs. MISSOURI (HC)
Nov. 8 Baylor AT TEXAS
Nov. 15 Baylor vs. TEXAS A&M
Nov. 22 OPEN
Nov. 29 Baylor AT TEXAS TECH
:scared :scared :scared
kurby kurby kurby
back to it because the south didn't catch my
attention.
But check this schedule out:
Aug. 30 Baylor vs. WAKE FORREST
Sept. 6 Baylor vs. Northwestern State
Sept. 13 Baylor vs. WASHINGTON STATE
Sept. 19 (FRI) Baylor AT CONNECTICUT
Sept. 27 OPEN
Oct. 4 Baylor vs. OKLAHOMA
Oct. 11 Baylor vs. Iowa State
Oct. 18 Baylor AT OKLAHOMA STATE
Oct. 25 Baylor AT NEBRASKA
Nov. 1 Baylor vs. MISSOURI (HC)
Nov. 8 Baylor AT TEXAS
Nov. 15 Baylor vs. TEXAS A&M
Nov. 22 OPEN
Nov. 29 Baylor AT TEXAS TECH
:scared :scared :scared
kurby kurby kurby
UGA at KY is a good one.
Brutal schedule for the Dawgs late in the year. All these SEC teams butt heads in the 2nd half of the year, often knocking each other out.
I could see South Carolina starting 6-1, only to finish 7-5, sort of like last year.
Brutal schedule for the Dawgs late in the year. All these SEC teams butt heads in the 2nd half of the year, often knocking each other out.
I could see South Carolina starting 6-1, only to finish 7-5, sort of like last year.
We might have a little shirt or hat bet on this game if you are interested...
