Lost all respect for Warren Sapp..

[no all]

he is a thug on the field:yup
but If I was a coach thats the type of player I would want on my team

he was getting his ankles ran at all day:shrug:
did u see that skinar?????

 

[gardenweasel]

if you had guys

if you had guys

cheapshotting other players when they weren`t a part of the play all over the field,there`d be chaos...you have to be biased or stupid to condone a shot like that that could end a guys season or career...stupid,i said.

 

[Skinar]

no all -

Yes, Sapp, like all lineman, gets his ankles hit a LOT, that's why they tape up so much. It happens in every game to every lineman, offensive and defensive, that I have ever seen. What I DON'T see in every game is a headhunter shot and then guys laughing on the sideline as the opposing player is hauled off on a stretcher.

Sherman shouldn't have said anything to Sapp on his way off the field - Sapp shouldn't be threatening the coach in the after game interviews as he did.

Tom Jackson just said it best - Sherman should let his players take care of it in the next meeting of the two teams on the field, and I think you can count on that the next time Sapp shows up at Lambeau Field. I'll be looking forward to seeing that.

 

[flag]

SAPP DOES GET OUT OF HAND ON OCCASION, COCKY, SHOWBOAT,
SMARTA** ETC. BUT HE PLAYS THE GAME HARD AND HE PLAYS TO WIN. SHERMAN SHOULD OF JUST KEPT HIS MOUTH SHUT. CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THESE TWO MEET AGAIN.

 

[hellah10]

WTF...

He goes if I didnt have a wife and 3 kids I woulda took care of him on the field....

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Well that would be your last game in the NFL

 

[jdh]

For you sons of bitches out there talking about packer fans crying and how we shouldn't judge that no class hit, i think you should re-evaluate your posts here. I don't give a crap where in the hell i'm watching the game, that hit was stupid and could have caused serious injury. playing rough in nfl isn't hard to do and the rules are there to show a 0% tolerance for that kind of behavior. Sapp is a thug and to cuss out the packer's coach for telling him he didn't appreciate that hit was totally unacceptable. then Sapp's stupid ass says,"what was the problem." you dumb f**ck you know what you did wrong.
anyway, i don't want to sound like a moderator here but keep this forum clean of sh*t like this. you morons.

 

[no all]

sherman should have walked right by him and shut his mouth

and sapp was getting his ankles ran at 5 yards away from the bloody play I saw it twice

and yes it should be a great game next time these 2 meet

 

[no all]

jdh shut up u friggin idiot:thefinger

that is not what sherman said or what sapp said u clueless f#ck:gf:

 

[Skinar]

that is not what sherman said or what sapp said u clueless f#ck:gf:

Actually, that is what Sherman said and Sapp did say 'what's the problem' in his after game interview, I've seen it a couple of times now. I also have seen the after game confrontation several times and Sherman made a bee line for Sapp and told him he didn't appreciate the hit on his player and the laughter afterwards and Sapp immediately said 'F*CK YOU' to which Sherman said 'F*CK YOU' right back and it kind of went downhill from there with Sapp frothing at the mouth and shouting something unintelligible at Sherman.

I imagine Sapp will get a large fine for this, I've watched several times and Sapp went looking for this guy on this play in question, loaded up from about 10 yards away, led with his helmet and hit the guy in the earhole or thereabouts. This particular action was at least 30 yards from the ball, and I know you're supposed to protect yourself at all times, but this was most definitely a very cheap shot and then they had the audacity to laugh about it.

I'll bet Sapp doesn't laugh so loud when someone pops him in the old earhole and it's only about 5 friggin degrees at Lambeau and his head rings for a couple of days. Sherman's stock just went up with his players because he took on one of the league's real bullys on behalf of his injured player, and he did it without any his own players around for backup either.

 

[ferdville]

I don't like Sapp. Never have liked the cocky fool in college or pros. However, the hit was totally legal in all aspects. Was it a cheap shot? Yes, it was. In fact, Sapp usually looks for the quarterback to blast after every interception. But let's not let our dislike for the basically unlikeable Sapp color our brains. It was a legal and legitimate hit. What if it was John Lynch instead of Sapp? Would opinions be different? My guess is they would. I'm sure that Warren will take a cheap shot or two if the Bays meet up again this year.

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

If I was Sherman, I would have made a bee line for my QB after he threw the game-turning interception and then plays grab-ass with Sapp after the play was over. Instead he went over to a player on the other team.

I had no problem with the Philly player planting Miller in the playoffs last year and I had no problem with this, but it's just my opinion. But if the guy was out of the play then he should have stayed on the ground. Clifton and Miller weren't put out of the game due to the cheap shots, they were put out of the game because their both injury-prone players in a contact sport.

 

[UT-Longhorn]

That nog is a fawking thug that needs to be ear-holed next week!

I hope someone puts a hit out on his head for the rest of the season........paybacks are a BIATCH!

 

[gardenweasel]

you have to wonder

you have to wonder

whether guys who pooh-pooh a potentially career ending cheap shot like that ever played contact sports....that kind of behavior is trying to be legislated out of football,and rightly so...yes,it`s a tough sport and yes,trying to maim a guy for no reason far way from a play like that should be vilified....and ferdville,to try and insinuate that the color of sapp`s skin has anything to do with this argument is a cheapshot in itself...i know your sorry you made that stupid comment....i have respected your viewpoints here at mj`s,but,what does that have to do with one guy putting another guy`s career in jeopardy for no good reason?...i can honestly say i never intentionally tried to maim a guy,even in the ring....there is a line...i think that blind-side spear-job crossed it.....and then to threaten to beat an older man on the field...sapp needs to be disciplined...what would everyone think if that player ended up like darryl stingly?...or if sapp had jumped on sherman?...he has ruined whatever decent personna he had established...

 

[Skinar]

I don't like Sapp. Never have liked the cocky fool in college or pros. However, the hit was totally legal in all aspects. Was it a cheap shot? Yes, it was.

You bet, and he should be fined heavily.

In fact, Sapp usually looks for the quarterback to blast after every interception.

e.g. Thug, even by NFL standards.

But let's not let our dislike for the basically unlikeable Sapp color our brains. It was a legal and legitimate hit.

Legal? Technically. Legitimate? Not in the slightest, it was well away from the flow of the play and had no impact on the outcome of that play. It was what it was - a cheap shot on a player that Sapp had singled out for elimination from the field of play.

What if it was John Lynch instead of Sapp? Would opinions be different?

It's a moot point because it wasn't John Lynch. However, when Romo has put similar hits on people he has been justifiably eviscerated by the press and fined by the league office. Let's just be consistent.

My guess is they would.

Then your guess is wrong. If anything, Sapp will get MORE leniency from the league than Romo, or if it had been Lynch.

I'm sure that Warren will take a cheap shot or two if the Bays meet up again this year.

I certainly hope so. I hope they tote him off on a stretcher while the Green Bay players and fans laugh. And then I hope that Sherman gives an after game interview and says 'What's the problem? It was all perfectly legal.'

 

[ctownguy]

I'm neither a Sapp lover or a Packer Backer, but I don't know what replays some of you have been watching:

1. It was a legal hit in every respect, Sapp did not lead with his helmet and his intial contact was in front of Clifton's right upper chest.

2. It did not take place 30 yds away, it was almost directly across from where the intercepter was being stopped on the sideline and Sapp and Clifton were in the middle of the field with Clifton running full barrel toward the sideline to try and make a play on the returner.

3. The fact that the returner was just about to be stopped had no bearing on Sapp blocking as the play was going on, whistle had not blown and Sapp (I'm sorry GB fans) had every right to block and stop any GB player trying to stop his guy.

I know this will not set well with GB fans, but I'm looking at this from what the replays show on the play and not coming from a fan of either side.

The antics of what happen right after the hit I didn't see, but the play was legit and tough football IMHO. Clifton was on the field going to make a play, you have to be aware of what is going on all around you. He was aware enough to be heading over in that direction to try and get it on the play to stop the returner.

As far as HC Sherman after the game, I feel he was totally wrong. You take care of that off the field or coach to coach, not with a player in that situation.

Did not give this opinion to be on either side, just to state what I've seen with no bias either way.

Now I'll say this, I think Sapp is a bigmouth fool, right along with the other bigmouth fool TB has, Keyshawn Johnson. Also have no respect for Farve since his dive last year with "The Sack" and the record. This lovery dovey crap between Sapp and Farve is Bullcrap as far as I'm concerned and I think it makes both of 'em look like jerks.

 

[Skinar]

I'm neither a Sapp lover or a Packer Backer, but I don't know what replays some of you have been watching:

1. It was a legal hit in every respect, Sapp did not lead with his helmet and his intial contact was in front of Clifton's right upper chest.

We must be watching a different set of replays. In the one I saw Sapp clearly led with his helmet and hit the guy in the mouth. Sapp even said in his after game interview that he 'hit him right in the mouth'. Of course, the mouth part is legal, but leading with the crown of the helmet is not.

2. It did not take place 30 yds away, it was almost directly across from where the intercepter was being stopped on the sideline and Sapp and Clifton were in the middle of the field with Clifton running full barrel toward the sideline to try and make a play on the returner.

Considering the that field is about 40 yards wide and Sapp and Clifton were, in my opinion, well over half the width of the field from the ball carrier I would estimate they were about 30 yards from the action. You yourself just said they were directly ACROSS from the interceptor on the SIDELINE. I just think that Sapp and Clifton were well past the middle of the field. Clifton was not running full barrel in the clip I saw, more of a slow job, kind of like a lineman who doesn't want to appear totally out of the play when they run the film but who isn't that interested in trying catch a defensive back either.

3. The fact that the returner was just about to be stopped had no bearing on Sapp blocking as the play was going on, whistle had not blown and Sapp (I'm sorry GB fans) had every right to block and stop any GB player trying to stop his guy.

Sure he does, he has the right to block anyone on the other team. He doesn't have the right to lead with his helmet and although it's not in the rulebooks it's totally without class to laugh about an injured player on the sidelines. Warren will come to realize this when he's being carried off the field himself to the jeers of the Green Bay fans.

Did not give this opinion to be on either side, just to state what I've seen with no bias either way.

I'm not trying to give a biased opinion either but we certainly don't see what happened the same way.

Now I'll say this, I think Sapp is a bigmouth fool, right along with the other bigmouth fool TB has, Keyshawn Johnson. Also have no respect for Farve since his dive last year with "The Sack" and the record. This lovery dovey crap between Sapp and Farve is Bullcrap as far as I'm concerned and I think it makes both of 'em look like jerks.

That we can agree on 100%.

 

[gardenweasel]

whattaya` gonna do,skinar?

whattaya` gonna do,skinar?

keyboard jockeys don`t have a clue...:shrug:...not worth the time or effort...let`s see if the league addresses this...

 

[Skinar]

Not much I can do? What about yourself?

Not much I can do? What about yourself?

keyboard jockeys don`t have a clue...:shrug:...not worth the time or effort...let`s see if the league addresses this...

Who among us is not a keyboard jockey? I suppose you're right but I just happened to like this discussion. I think the league will address this ... :shrug: ... so I suppose we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

That's funny, because I was thinking that the guys who thought that it was a cheapshot never played the game. I guess we were taught a different way to play the game.

 

[ctownguy]

Yea gardenweasel, I guess because all of us weren't All Americans like you MUST have been, that we don't know what the hell we are talking about.

When I played we were taught to take care of ourselves and try and not let yourself get flatten like that.

Also taught to take care of old scores on the field, how do you know if this play wasn't payback for something in the past and if it was at least Sapp was smart enough to do it legally.

Will he get payback, he better or the Packers have no fu**ing guts.

But for you to insinuate that because my opinion differs from yours or skinars because I see the play a different way, that I never played the game or whatever shows your ignorance as you don't know sh*t about my playing past:fingerc: