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My only view on this is based on supply in demand. If there are more kids needing adoption than straight couples willing to adopt, then I think gay adoption is a no-brainer.
My guess is two loving parents is always better than foster care.
Beyond that I won't argue with your concern, because I just don't have enough information about how gay adoptions work out.



OK lets say the adopted child is taken in by two loving gay males.


One night while sitting doing his homework he asks you


why do I have two Dads and all the kids at school have a Dad and a mom ?
 

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OK lets say the adopted child is taken in by two loving gay males.


One night while sitting doing his homework he asks you


why do I have two Dads and all the kids at school have a Dad and a mom ?

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OK lets say the adopted child is taken in by two loving gay males.


One night while sitting doing his homework he asks you


why do I have two Dads and all the kids at school have a Dad and a mom ?

Please no answers until we hear Hedgehog's answer.
 

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I'll have sportasholic text him and FDC stop over and drop off a note.
 

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OK lets say the adopted child is taken in by two loving gay males.


One night while sitting doing his homework he asks you


why do I have two Dads and all the kids at school have a Dad and a mom ?

I personally would say "speak when you are spoken to, now go fetch me a beer". But that's why I don't have kids. :mj07:

I am assuming those 2 loving parents would just tell the truth.
"Most kids have a mom and dad, some kids just have a mom, or just a dad... and a few kids have 2 dads or 2 moms".

If they kid said "why?" (I am assuming kids still say that a lot)

Then the 2 loving dads could answer "Most men marry women, but some men marry men. We couldn?t have children but wanted to share our love and have a big family and we are so happy we found you?

But this is just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are even better things to say based on each unique situation.
 

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do gay family's with adopted kids attend all the PTA meetings and sports games and all the kids school activites ? I assume they would.


Now you got your kid explaining to other kids why he has two Dads .


Will the stigma be too much for the kid and send him to counseling to sort it out now or
later in his life when he dont know if he should be a double Dad or more traditional ?
 

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do gay family's with adopted kids attend all the PTA meetings and sports games and all the kids school activites ? I assume they would.


Now you got your kid explaining to other kids why he has two Dads .


Will the stigma be too much for the kid and send him to counseling to sort it out now or
later in his life when he dont know if he should be a double Dad or more traditional ?

KOD, I have twins that play on my boys soccer team. This will be their 6th season I believe. I didn't even realize they had two dads until the 4th season. I knew one of the guys was their "dad" but I thought the other guy was an uncle or something. Then one day I asked them "who dropped you off today?" One of them looked at me and said their dad did. Well I knew from an email that day that their "dad" was out of town and that's when it hit me. I never knew because their dads are both jocks and work out at the gym I belong to. This is the same way with my business partner. He's as manly as it gets and unless you knew he was gay nobody would ever even think it. IMO these kids don't know anything other than they have two loving parents and that's all that matters.

Not one kid on our team has ever asked why they have two dads. I always thought one of them would at least say something but not a word. More importantly not one of the kids care. Actually I'm pretty sure they're are at least two boys on my team that would love to have two dads and that's because they don't even really have one. They've both played for me for 10 seasons now and neither of their dads has ever come around.

I'm not saying having two dads or moms would be easy but I think they're more ok with it than you and I could ever imagine.
 
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KOD, I have twins that play on my boys soccer team. This will be their 6th season I believe. I didn't even realize they had two dads until the 4th season. I knew one of the guys was their "dad" but I thought the other guy was an uncle or something. Then one day I asked them "who dropped you off today?" One of them looked at me and said their dad did. Well I knew from an email that day that their "dad" was out of town and that's when it hit me. I never knew because their dads are both jocks and work out at the gym I belong to. This is the same way with my business partner. He's as manly as it gets and unless you knew he was gay nobody would ever even think it. IMO these kids don't know anything other than they have two loving parents and that's all that matters.

Not one kid on our team has ever asked why they have two dads. I always thought one of them would at least say something but not a word. More importantly not one of the kids care. Actually I'm pretty sure they're are at least two boys on my team that would love to have two dads and that's because they don't even really have one. They've both played for me for 10 seasons now and neither of their dads has ever come around.

I'm not saying having two dads or moms would be easy but I think they're more ok with it than you and I could ever imagine.
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good reply that answers alot for my understanding.


I do remember one of them Jerry Springer shows where there was a out of control 8 yr old
who was screaming and cursing at his mom. Trouble at school etc.

So they bring in this Army Sargent and he starts in on the boy and really steps him down
a few levels. It goes on for the show .


At the end of the show the kids are asked if they will change their lives now.

The Army guy gets in the kids face and says If You don't listen to your mom I am going to come
there and be your Dad, how would you like that.

Kid says OK

Army guy taken aback.............why you say that


Kid says ...........Because I don't have a Daddy

nuff said
 

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KOD, I have twins that play on my boys soccer team. This will be their 6th season I believe. I didn't even realize they had two dads until the 4th season. .

so they weren't hiding it, it just wasn't discussed.

Seems after 4 yrs they might have felt more comfortable about it


its good your kids never asked you about it. shows acceptance of teammates to a degree
 

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This is an interesting and sad thought. Not cause it makes your dad a bad guy, but just the thought that the majority of gay people who are about 30-40 years old had a father that threw a fit or doesn't speak to them anymore.

I like to hope that it's probably less than 50%, and I know the generation that we are recruiting now isn't facing the same rate of rejection. :0008

it`s obvious that opinions are changing.....i don`t usually put much faith in polls but most are seeing an obvious,major shift toward acceptance....i would try and cut older folks a little slack for not changing their views as quickly as some would like...but i don`t believe it`s malicious or malevolent....old mores don`t change overnight...but they are changing.....if sam is as good a player as he was in the sec,i have no doubt he`ll do very well....

the one issue i had with sam was his phraseology...please don`t say you`re "coming out of the closet" and in the same breath say that "it`s a load off your chest".....



/:rimshot...that was for kosar...i know he would have laughed...:lol:
 

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so they weren't hiding it, it just wasn't discussed.

Seems after 4 yrs they might have felt more comfortable about it


its good your kids never asked you about it. shows acceptance of teammates to a degree


They weren't hiding it but that's like saying my son hasn't been hiding he has a mom and dad to all of his friends. They don't know any different so they never feel the need to discuss it.
 

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In college I volunteered for an after school program. It was at a school that was in an area with a lot of poverty. I always knew which kids didn't have fathers in their homes. Once they got comfortable around me and saw that I actually cared about them they always wanted more attention. They were always the ones that wanted to sit in your lap if you were sitting or wanted hugs when they first came in or were leaving.

Now that I coach soccer, basketball and soccer I can see which boys don't have fathers because they do all of those things. Now the girls team I coach is a lot different. The two girls that are on my basketball team and don't have dads are very withdrawn. They are friends with my daughter and are over at our house quite a bit. Even though I've known them for a few years now they're still very withdrawn and I've never been able to reach them like I have with the boys. I don't have one girl that has a dad around that is like that. It breaks my heart but I'm no expert so there's not much more I can do.

I say all of that because even though I think having two dads or moms would be tough in some aspects, I don't think it would be near as tough as not having two parents in your life
 
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