Mike Leach suspended for Bowl Game....

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he thought he shouldn't have to apologize if he did nothing wrong....

I am with Leach on this one.
The only thing Leach should apologize for is apparently not being able to make this puss a tough enough man.
That would be a funny apology.:142smilie
 

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Under a mask.
:shrug: who is Andre Waters


Andre Waters, Concussions, and Brain Injury

Andre Waters was an NFL defensive back for 12 years. During his playing years, he sustained multiple concussions. He committed suicide November 2006 at the age of 44.

The results of his brain autopsy have just been announced, and the pathologist from the University of Pittsburgh concluded that his brain cells had the appearance of an 85-year-old man with Alzheimer?s disease. The pathologist also contends that the severe brain changes were caused by the multiple concussions Andre Walters had while playing football.

There is little doubt in my mind that multiple concussions (even as few as 2 or 3) can seriously damage your brain and lead to cognitive impairment, personality changes, and depression. I?ve seen this scenario present itself many times in clinic. Importantly, even one concussion can take a significant toll on your brain power.

Despite the fact there?s been a large number of studies published that support this view, the NFL is in denial.

Unfortunately, this denial trickles down to high school and college athletics. With well over 300,000 concussions happening per year in the U.S., parents need to really think twice about letting their kids play contact sports like football and hockey.

And what most people don?t realize, interestingly, is that a concussion doesn?t always involve losing consciousness or passing out. If you develop any confusion or disorientation whatsoever, you?ve met the American Academy of Neurology?s criteria for having one.
 

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:shrug: who is Andre Waters


He was a DB that played for the Eagles and was a guy that would lay the wood to anyone in his area. He committed suicide some time ago and after the death they studied his brain tissue and determined that his brain tisuue wa that of an old man with alzheimers and the reason was from playing football and concussions.
 

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Andre Waters to Adam James is a stretch if there has ever been one. As kegray pointed out, the AD had a beef with Leach and this was his out, in his mind at least. He's done with Leach and can go after his own guy now.

Again, an apology avoids a suspension, but no apology means grounds for termination. Leach is going to be bringing a suit against Tech for this one.
 
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Andre Waters, Concussions, and Brain Injury

Andre Waters was an NFL defensive back for 12 years. During his playing years, he sustained multiple concussions. He committed suicide November 2006 at the age of 44.

The results of his brain autopsy have just been announced, and the pathologist from the University of Pittsburgh concluded that his brain cells had the appearance of an 85-year-old man with Alzheimer?s disease. The pathologist also contends that the severe brain changes were caused by the multiple concussions Andre Walters had while playing football.

There is little doubt in my mind that multiple concussions (even as few as 2 or 3) can seriously damage your brain and lead to cognitive impairment, personality changes, and depression. I?ve seen this scenario present itself many times in clinic. Importantly, even one concussion can take a significant toll on your brain power.

Despite the fact there?s been a large number of studies published that support this view, the NFL is in denial.

Unfortunately, this denial trickles down to high school and college athletics. With well over 300,000 concussions happening per year in the U.S., parents need to really think twice about letting their kids play contact sports like football and hockey.

And what most people don?t realize, interestingly, is that a concussion doesn?t always involve losing consciousness or passing out. If you develop any confusion or disorientation whatsoever, you?ve met the American Academy of Neurology?s criteria for having one.

I remember him now, concussions are nothing to mess with, I still think Leach is getting railroaded
 

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He isnt getting $12 million - he will get $1.6 ($400k per year for the 4 years left, and thats only if he can prove he was fired without cause.)

The James' family didnt demand an apology - the school President did. Thats called insubordination which will get anyone fired. And Leach didnt deny doing what he was accused of - just whether it was acceptable.
 

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Leach was fired the second he took this thing to court.
If he didn't do that or if he would have apologized(sincere or not) then he would still be the coach and be serving a one game suspension.
Meyers jumped at this chance as he all but hates Leach but had no choice but to give in to the contract.
TT fans are very bitter right now and this is why I think they bring in one of their own and hope the transition in coaching is smooth and this issue with fans will go away sooner than later.

Details are still not clear as to why he sent him to the dark room. Saw a report saying he was late as always to practice thinking he didn't have to show on time since he was out and then saw it was because he was using concussion as excuse not to practice. There is a big difference in why Leach punished him here. If he was late and spoiled like everyone says then he deserved a timeout in the corner of a dark room.
If it was because he said he had concussion and just could not practice then yes Leach was wrong for doing it no matter how spoiled the kid is.
More details are needed and I doubt they ever come out from a real truth side.
 

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Leach (a) thought he was faking despite the team doctor's report and (b) James had asked for a transfer to SMU and Leach refused, so family went over his head to AD to try and get it.
 

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I retract on my comments.. Leech is getting screwed I think
Sounds to me like James wasn't giving full effort in practice and gets disciplined.. Then he comes back with "concussion" symptoms.. Shows up to practice in sun glasses to help migranes.. Leech tells him to go to a dark room.. WTF is wrong with that.. Being in the medical field that is a good intervention for someone with concussion like symptoms but at the same time the coach probably should of sent him to team physicians instead. Sounds like this is totally over blown and the James kid and dad sound like little Dueche Bags
 

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cause will be detailed in his employment contract -him refusing to apoligize is not cause -they are hanging there hat on something else- if i tell a employee to say there sorry and they wont that is not grounds for dismisal or breach of contract for employment -if it is leaches agent and attorney suck- and i am sure they do not -they will negotiate a settlement- and he will coach somewhere else
 

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I have a copy of his employment contract and I've read thru it, this will end up costing Tech some money.(I would post it but I just realized I don't know how to attach a pdf file on here)

Nothing like a school that will hire a coach who chokes his player in practice but fires one who puts someone with a concussion in a dark room.(one that the offsensive linemen say they go to hang out in)
 

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Per employment contract the Univ can terminate the aggreement at anytime without cause. They only have to pay him the 400k per year left on his contract.
 

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Well this video doesn't clear up much.
Leach attorney said it was not a small room and James people say the trainer was instructed to remove anything he could sit on.
As James pans around you see a chair and it is not like it is pitch dark in there.
Although I do admit it would suck sitting there but far from danger. If he was in so much danger then why did he not use his phone to call someone. He has a look on his face like I got this prick now.

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The whole incident is due to the bitterness of the contract negotiations from last year. Myers and Hance don't get along with Leach. Leach is highly intelligent and unconventional, West Texans are, well, West Texans. The two don't mesh and never have. It's a pissing contest. After Tech was left with egg on its face for giving in on almost all of Leach's contract demands, they've had it out for him ever since.

The incident with James was the pretext they needed to get him out. They knew Leach wouldn't sign anything and wouldn't apologize. I applaud him for doing neither. He held strong to his beliefs. Now, we, as Tech fans are screwed for the next 20 years. Sonny Dykes sucks. Art Briles is the only replacement referenced that I feel would give Tech a chance. I believe, however, his buyout clause is $4 million. Tech won't pay that, so we're stuck getting some never-has-been and headed back to mediocrity. Nice move, douchebags.
 
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The Leach interview on ESPN was pretty good.
He blasts both Adam and Craig James and shows no remorse whatsoever.
Got to love a guy who stands by what he did.

Also the trainers story makes it sound like he was putting James in a dark room for the concussion symptoms and not punishment. He said the closet was in the room but they never put him in it.
It would not shock me if Adam James went into the closet on his own and took the video acting like he was put in there.
This guy just looks like a smug prick and 90% of his teammates say he was. ESPN has pulled qutoes from like 2 or 3 players saying it was right to fire Leach. So they found James friends on the team and got quotes from them.
 
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